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how to correctly log without journald (and its blobs)?
by Franta Hanzlík 09 Apr '18

09 Apr '18

In previous Fedora distros was (IMHO) right way to log only to syslog, without journald and its (for me) unwanted annoying binary logs, by using configuration as: *) Set systemd log target to syslog: systemd.log_target=syslog (syslog-or-kmsg) ---- on kernel cmdline systemd.default_standard_output=syslog --/ and LogTarget=syslog ---- in systemd.conf DefaultStandardOutput=syslog --/ *) configuring rsyslog to listen on /dev/log unix socket: $SystemLogSocketName /dev/log ------ in rsyslog.conf $ModLoad imuxsock ----/ $OmitLocalLogging off ---/ $AddUnixListenSocket /run/systemd/journal/syslog --/(legacy directives) $AddUnixListenSocket /run/systemd/journal/socket -/ $AddUnixListenSocket /run/systemd/journal/stdout / (not sure when all last three directives needed) *) prevent to run journald: systemctl mask systemd-journald.service (and maybe mask systemd-journal-flush.service) And it works fine. But in actual Fedora 24 in systemd man page values syslog-or-kmsg and syslog are missing in LogTarget option. As systemd/journald man pages say hardly anything about exact mean of appropriate configuration for this purpose, then please when someone more knowledgeable can advise: - where to direct the systemd output? Maybe to kmsg an then read it in rsyslog via imklog? (rsyslog should have also imkmsg module, but is not in rsyslog-8.12.0-3.fc24) - what about /run/log/journal/.../system.journal ? On my test F24 system it have open rsyslogd, abrt-dump-journal-oops and abrt-dump-journal-xorg (no need for these last two) processes. Uses it also something else? - what about /run/systemd/journal/{dev-log,socket,stdout} unix sockets? Should rsyslogd listen on them? - /dev/log seems be now symlink to /run/systemd/journal/dev-log socket (as defined by systemd-journald-dev-log.socket) Should it be left (because now something sends to /run/systemd/journal/dev-log), or can be /run/systemd/journal/dev-log removed? Thanks in advance for some clarification about this. Franta Hanzlik

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Can I install gcc-8 from rawhide on F27?
by Neal Becker 02 Apr '18

02 Apr '18

There's a bug in gcc-7.3.1 that causes a crash on some code I need. Is it safe to install gcc-8 from rawhide on F27?

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USB issues in fedora-27 ("can't get device qualifier: Resource temporarily unavailable") not happening when booted into CentOS-6.2, same hardware
by Tom Hodder 01 Apr '18

01 Apr '18

Hi All, I've been having a bunch of trouble with the USB ports on my desktop, in particular the webcam doesn't work and there are lots of errors in the output <https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/qYxQ2rH-tlsE8pJqWz442w> of *"lsusb -v"* when I try to debug. (I get the "can't get device qualifier: Resource temporarily unavailable" errors, whether the webcam is plugged in or not, which seems to eliminate the webcam itself as the source of the problem) On the positive side, a usb keyboard, mouse and USB sticks seem to work ok. The hardware is a Supermicro SuperWorkstation 7037A-i <https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/tower/7037/sys-7037a-i.cfm>, with an X9dai motherboard <https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c600/x9dai.cfm>. I assumed the problem was hardware related and raised a ticket with supermicro. They asked me to test the machine using a supported OS, and the nearest to fedora-27 was CentOS 6.2 (compatibility matrix <https://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/OS/C602_listing2.cfm>). So today I booted into Centos-6.2. To my surprise there were no errors in the "lsusb -v" output <https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/yVFlRYGi9m4ZCt9PZPF3Gg>, no errors in dmesg or syslog, and the webcam worked fine. This seems to suggest it's not a hardware problem, but some difference in the drivers. I am pretty sure the usb/webcam used to work, but that's going back a few versions of fedora, and probably 3/4 years. Any ideas on what might be causing this? Many Thanks, Tom Various debugging output; *Fedora-27* lsusb -v https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/qYxQ2rH-tlsE8pJqWz442w dmidecode https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/gW9D10O0fy6-p58I-YgJOQ dmesg https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/hnVj1hyjDpyYtiInxPGZ3Q lsmod https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/bZTVW-7P8mD19cLO6nogww *CentOS-6.2* lsusb -v https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/yVFlRYGi9m4ZCt9PZPF3Gg dmesg output https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/TTyqm9zDrf1m4kID9rl09Q dmidecode https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/FfafH1-KdNzy5IA17oD9mg lsmod https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/~orePKeYsJRlBRmP1P2vvw Plugging in the webcam produces this; Mar 30 02:19:24 pc03.config kernel: usb 2-1.7: new high-speed USB device number 8 using ehci-pci Mar 30 02:19:25 pc03.config kernel: usb 2-1.7: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=0294 Mar 30 02:19:25 pc03.config kernel: usb 2-1.7: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Mar 30 02:19:25 pc03.config kernel: usb 2-1.7: Product: Video Camera Mar 30 02:19:25 pc03.config kernel: usb 2-1.7: Manufacturer: Microsoft Mar 30 02:19:25 pc03.config kernel: usb 2-1.7: SerialNumber: 000F330333475838 Mar 30 02:19:25 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Video Camera (045e:0294) Mar 30 02:19:26 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo 2-1.7:1.0: Entity type for entity Extension 3 was not initialized! Mar 30 02:19:26 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo 2-1.7:1.0: Entity type for entity Processing 2 was not initialized! Mar 30 02:19:26 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo 2-1.7:1.0: Entity type for entity Camera 1 was not initialized! ... Mar 30 02:19:19 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control : -71 (exp. 26). Mar 30 02:19:19 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control : -71 (exp. 26). Mar 30 02:19:19 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control : -71 (exp. 26). Mar 30 02:19:19 pc03.config kernel: uvcvideo: Failed to set UVC probe control : -71 (exp. 26).

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easiest way to encrypt existing home dir?
by Neal Becker 01 Apr '18

01 Apr '18

I'm running f27 with everything on one drive. /home is 1 btrfs subvolume and / is another btrfs subvolume. I want to move my /home to encryption. One possibility seems to be to use ecryptfs. I tried creating a test user, and the following: https://cloud-ninja.org/2014/04/05/fedora-encrypting-your-home-directory/ (following "easy way" instructions). This didn't do anything AFAICT, the test user's files still appear to be unencrypted, and I don't see any ecryptfs mount. Any suggestions? Is ecryptfs the way to go here or something else? Thanks, Neal

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rpm says package isn't installed but it is, and related question
by Chris Murphy 31 Mar '18

31 Mar '18

[chris@f27h ~]$ rpm -q kernel-core kernel-core-4.16.0-0.rc6.git2.1.fc29.x86_64 kernel-core-4.15.12-300.fc27.x86_64 kernel-core-4.16.0-0.rc7.git1.1.fc29.x86_64 kernel-core-4.15.14-300.fc27.x86_64 [chris@f27h ~]$ sudo rpm -q -i kernel-core-4.15.14-300.fc27.x86_64.rpm Name : kernel-core Version : 4.15.14 Release : 300.fc27 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: (not installed) Group : System Environment/Kernel Size : 60650235 License : GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted Signature : (none) Source RPM : kernel-4.15.14-300.fc27.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 29 Mar 2018 11:02:25 AM MDT Build Host : bkernel02.phx2.fedoraproject.org Relocations : (not relocatable) Packager : Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project URL : http://www.kernel.org/ Bug URL : https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/kernel Summary : The Linux kernel Description : The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of any Linux operating system. The kernel handles the basic functions of the operating system: memory allocation, process allocation, device input and output, etc. [chris@f27h Downloads]$ This specific rpm file I'm getting info on, was installed yesterday. But this query says it's not installed. In fact all RPMs I've downloaded and installed, when -qi is run on them, say they're not installed. Wha wha waht? Also, is there any way to know whether and what kind of compression is used in an RPM? I'm guessing the Size value of 60M above is installed size. The package size is 24M so there must be some kind of compression being used. But 'man rpm | grep -i compress' yields no results. -- Chris Murphy

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`plymouth show-splash` is not working
by Basix 31 Mar '18

31 Mar '18

Hello, I'm running f27 with kernel 4.15.12-301.fc27.x86_64. I tried to run `plymouth show-splash` as root, but it dosen't displayed anything and just returned 1. I tried `sudo plymouth --show-splash` and others but it isn't working. Any solutions?

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Re: Node.js 6.14.1, 8.11.1 and 9.10.1 will *not* be built for Fedora or EPEL
by Stephen Gallagher 30 Mar '18

30 Mar '18

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:41 AM Robert Van Voorhees <rcvanvo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > While on the topic of Node.js versions, do we plan on moving Fedora 28 to > Node 10, since their release dates coincide, or will Node 10 be pushed > until Fedora 29? > > For those not aware, Node 10 is the next LTS, however it's LTS support > does not start until October even though the release is slated for April: > https://github.com/nodejs/Release > > My plan is for Fedora 28 traditional RPM repositories to ship Node.js 8 because I don't like changing defaults after Beta release. However, as Fedora 28 is now the first release with support for Fedora Modularity, you may have noticed that it is also providing a non-default module for Node.js 6.x and 9.x that one can switch to. So what I intend to do is package up Node.js 10.x as quickly as possible and make that a non-default module in F28 and the default for F29. So, you'll be able to use it in Fedora 28 by doing `dnf module install nodejs:10` if you want to. Also available as a module will be 6.x and 9.x if you really want or need them, though they won't carry updates past upstream's EOL, which is in April 2019 for 6.x and June 2018 for 9.x).

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Node.js 6.14.1, 8.11.1 and 9.10.1 will *not* be built for Fedora or EPEL
by Stephen Gallagher 30 Mar '18

30 Mar '18

Just a general notice to anyone using Node.js in Fedora. We're not going to be rebuilding for the releases in the Subject because there's no need. The X.Y.1 releases were created because of a compilation mistake made by the upstream binary release process and contain no additional commits. Since Fedora and EPEL rebuild all of the sources in our own build environment, there is no need to issue an update at this time.

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Sharing USB Serial data with 2 processes ?
by linux guy 29 Mar '18

29 Mar '18

Hi. I've got a USB serial device that supplies data to a process via /dev/ttyUSB0. I need to use the same data for a 2nd, independent process. I have code for both processes and can make changes, but I would prefer not to. Is there a way that both processes can use the same serial USB data stream ? Thanks. PS: Is there a better place to ask this question ?

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HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.
by home user 29 Mar '18

29 Mar '18

Good afternoon, In the recent thread "alternative to skype", one member commented "Don't quote the entire email. In fact, don't quote anything at all when you reply. On k-9 mail there's a little x button (in the default config) that I can click to get rid of all the quotes text." Another responded on March 25: "No, do quote the part you are commenting on. It makes no sense to omit this. Of course it's all there in the archives but making your readers open a browser just to get the context of what you are talking about is poor practice. I note that posts via HyperKitty seem to do this but don't know if that's the way it works by default. If so it's a bug and should be fixed." I myself have experienced what the second member said, and I agree with him. List members respond to my posts in parts, but I have trouble knowing what specific part of my post the member is responding to. I agree. I submitted fedora-infrastructure issue #6802 "HYPERKITTY does not show what posting text is being addressed in a reply." to address this. It can be viewed here: "https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6802". Bill.

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