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what package would one bugzilla package group issues against?
by Robert P. J. Day 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

seems to me that some of the current dnf packages related to virtualization and containers could be adjusted and cleaned up, but i'm not sure against which component one would file a BZ issue against. first, the Virtualization group: $ dnf group info virtualization Last metadata expiration check: 0:18:41 ago on Fri 06 Apr 2018 05:18:28 AM EDT. Group: Virtualization Description: These packages provide a graphical virtualization environment. Mandatory Packages: virt-install Default Packages: libvirt-daemon-config-network libvirt-daemon-kvm qemu-kvm virt-manager virt-viewer Optional Packages: guestfs-browser libguestfs-tools libvirt-client python-libguestfs virt-top $ i'm still perusing that group to convince myself that its contents really reflects what is required for "virtualization" on fedora -- it's possible that there are newer packages that should be included, but i'm still poring over it. next, the "container-management" package seems awfully docker-centric: $ dnf group info container-management Last metadata expiration check: 0:21:50 ago on Fri 06 Apr 2018 05:18:28 AM EDT. Group: Container Management Description: Tools for managing Linux containers Mandatory Packages: cockpit-docker docker Optional Packages: docker-registry fedora-dockerfiles $ more to the point, these days, it should incorporate the "docker-ce" package, not "docker", yes? (and i vaguely recall from somewhere that the fedora-dockerfiles package was not terribly up to date.) anyway, given container technologies other than docker, it seems that that group name is a bit misleading. and if one can have a package group devoted to docker, one imagines it would be appropriate to have one dedicated to, say, kubernetes as well, but there isn't one. anyway, it just seems like there could be a refactoring of a number of package groups to make them more consistent and current. thoughts? rday

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can i define my own dnf package groups?
by Robert P. J. Day 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

related to my earlier query (and i'll have a couple more about package groups and virtualization before i'm done), is there any way to define my own package groups for personal use, other than manually hacking the groups.xml file? i've scanned the dnf man page, and i don't see any indication that that's possible -- perhaps a dnf plugin somewhere i haven't found? rday

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using "dnf group remove" to *totally* remove all virtualization?
by Robert P. J. Day 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

a couple more dnf/virtualization questions and that should be it. first, is there any option, when removing a package group with "dnf group remove", to remove even those packages that were installed manually? last time i looked (and i believe i just reconfirmed that), dnf keeps track of which packages were installed manually so that, when you remove a package group, it will *not* remove packages that had been installed manually. i'm not aware of any way around that, but perhaps i missed something in the man page. or maybe there's a dnf plugin? finally, the reason i'm asking about this is that i'm writing a tutorial on how to get started with virtualization on fedora, and i wanted to start from the perspective of a system that had absolutely no virtualization support on it whatever, and show what one could do as one added one virtualization component at a time; hence, my attempt at trying to remove the entire Virtualization package group (even though i don't think that would come close to getting rid of all virtualization). by the way, that last paragraph inspires the question -- does a regular fedora system *require* even the smallest aspect of virtualization to run properly? as in, if i had no need for virtualization support, is it feasible to remove every single virt-related package from the machine and not break something? rday

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html to man page
by JD 06 Apr '18

06 Apr '18

Hi all, I have an app that has no manpage, but has about 170 html files, all of which index into a subset of the 168 files. I would like to use an app that will produce a single manpage like text file. Is there an app that can do this? I saw a few apps on google search, but none of them are producing what I want. Thanx.

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Messages by booting Fedora 27 on Dell Inspiron 3721.
by Ger van Dijck 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

Hi all , When booting FC27 I get the following messages : radion 0000;01;0.0; failed VCE resume (-110) ipmi;dmi; Invalid offset; 0 ACPI error[\_SB_.PC10.GFX0.DD02;_BCL]Namespace lockup.failure ; AE_NOT_FOUND (20170303/psargs-3640) ACPI error;Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PC10.PEGO.PEGP.DD02._BCL] (Node f7100300), AE_NOT_FOUND (20170303/psparse-543) Question : What does this mean and/or what is wrong ? Regards , Ger van Dijck . -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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Help understanding the kernel release schedule
by Flo H 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

Hi, I am confused about the way the kernel packages land in Fedora, specifically Rawhide, and was wondering if someone could shed some light on this issue. Looking at [1], I see that the kernel in the updates repo is 4.17.rc. How is that possible? What is the source for 4.17? A build of linux-next? (Looking at [2] we see that 4.16 has just been released this week.) So what is 4.17.rc? Please let me know if I am asking on the wrong mailing list. Should I rather bother the packagers in the kernel list? Thanks! Florian [1]: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel [2]: https://www.kernel.org/

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Update Chromium Browser.
by Ger van Dijck 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

Hello Fedora Team, I get a message : There are 3 Updates for the Chromium Browser under Fedora 27 . When trying I get the message dependencies errors . So please correct this . Regards , Ger van Dijck . -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

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How to remove second GDM/login screen
by Wolfgang Pfeiffer 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

Hi all Running an X session via GDM and awesome wm on one tty. And on another tty there's another GDM login screen waiting ... I'd like to get rid of that second and useless GDM login screen. Permanently. Is it doable? Or do I need to switch to another display manager? Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer

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F27 : startx Xfce fails
by sean darcy 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

New install of F27, with Xfce. startx fails without an error on the console. Xorg.0.log has: .... [ 2930.626] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms [ 2930.626] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev [ 2930.626] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 2930.626] xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted) [ 2930.626] (II) [KMS] Kernel modesetting enabled. [ 2930.626] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting [ 2930.626] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev [ 2930.626] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw" [ 2930.626] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" [ 2930.626] (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so [ 2930.626] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 2930.626] compiled for 1.19.6, module version = 0.0.2 [ 2930.626] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 23.0 [ 2930.626] (EE) open /dev/fb0: Permission denied [ 2930.626] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa [ 2930.626] (WW) VGA arbiter: cannot open kernel arbiter, no multi-card support [ 2930.626] (II) RADEON(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section ....... No other errors or warnings. Xorg kept going finishing the display section and loading the mouse etc. and just terminates: [ 2930.990] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" (type: TOUCHPAD, id 11) [ 2930.991] (**) Option "AccelerationScheme" "none" [ 2930.991] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) selected scheme none/0 [ 2930.991] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 [ 2930.991] (**) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 [ 2930.992] (II) event4 - SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: is tagged by udev as: Touchpad [ 2930.992] (II) event4 - SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: device is a touchpad [ 2930.993] (II) config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/mouse0) [ 2930.993] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. [ 2930.993] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. [ 2930.997] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Toshiba WMI hotkeys (/dev/input/event7) [ 2930.997] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device. [ 2930.997] (II) This device may have been added with another device file. [ 2931.474] (**) Option "fd" "24" [ 2931.474] (II) event2 - Power Button: device removed [ 2931.474] (**) Option "fd" "27" [ 2931.474] (II) event5 - Video Bus: device removed [ 2931.475] (**) Option "fd" "28" [ 2931.475] (II) event1 - Power Button: device removed [ 2931.475] (**) Option "fd" "29" [ 2931.475] (II) event6 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - MP: TOSHIB: device removed [ 2931.475] (**) Option "fd" "30" [ 2931.475] (II) event3 - AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: device removed [ 2931.475] (**) Option "fd" "31" [ 2931.475] (II) event4 - SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: device removed [ 2931.478] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 2931.478] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:68 [ 2931.495] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 2931.495] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:67 [ 2931.502] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 2931.502] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:70 [ 2931.517] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 2931.517] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:65 [ 2931.529] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 2931.529] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:69 [ 2931.550] (II) UnloadModule: "libinput" [ 2931.550] (II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 13:66 [ 2931.589] (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.

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Thunderbird Issue Possibly Related to System Update
by Stephen Morris 04 Apr '18

04 Apr '18

Hi, I have an issue with Thunderbird that may or may not be system related. This issue surfaced after a system update a few updates back. Whenever I start Thunderbird now it always starts unmaximised even though on last shutdown it was maximised, and when I reply to a mail or compose a mail that starts unmaximised as well. Until the system update these components of Thunderbird always started maximised as required. I'm on version 61.0a1 of Thunderbird. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? regards, Steve

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