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sort of Rawhide related
by David 08 Apr '20

08 Apr '20

I am a novice user of Fedora Rawhide. Today, I did a fresh new clean install ( on an cheap old SSD ) of Rawhide as my only operating system. I used the nightly compose finder, and chose "Workstation live" for X86_64, using the last good iso "20200325." This was probably my 5th time to install Rawhide on hardware in the past year or two. I have been using Xfce in Rawhide for over 3 months, and I was biased against it from the start, so I can not give a fair review. Fedora Xfce just seemed so 2016, even in Rawhide. The final straw was that Firefox 75 is coming out soon ( with better wayland improvements ), and I missed wayland. Xfce probably won't get wayland for a long time. Right ? I use a lot of gnome apps ( but in flatpaks ). One of the first things I do after an install, is play FreeCell in Aisleriot Solitaire to see if I "feel anything," as I have played this game about 1,000 times ( maybe 10,000, LOL ! ) Anyways, I updated the packages, turned on the available 3rd party repo, installed flathub,powered off, installed flatpak of Aisleriot, rebooted, just to test reboot, and then played a game, and here I am. I installed htop ( fc32 ) and, it all looks good from here. I surfed the web, watched YouTube. All is nominal and functional from that perspective. LibreOffice preinstalled. Utility apps are already all grouped together so that looks nice. I am sending this email using this new install. David Locklear Novice Rawhide User 0.0.0.5 ( inside joke ) System: ASUS Mini-ITX Intel i5-3470 with 16 GB of DDR3 at ~ 1,000 MHz ( approximately 5 years old, or more )

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Anaconda question
by David 07 Apr '20

07 Apr '20

Once a user gets their computer running on Fedora, is there any reason to keep anaconda and its associated dependencies ? Is there any reason to delete it ? Is there any reason to update it everytime it updates ? David Locklear

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Display Manager question
by David 07 Apr '20

07 Apr '20

Last week, I replaced the file "default.png" in my background directory, and was delightfully enjoying a new custom backsplash, instead of the new fancy one that Fedora has ( light color blue with some rectangular glass cluster ). In my recent update yesterday, something replaced my custom backsplash with the old default.png. Why would an update do that ? This is the kind of stuff you can expect from living in Rawhide, so I am NOT complaining. And I am using Xfce, so the DM is LightDM, specifically, lightdm-1.30.0-8.fc32 ( Rawhide's current version, if using Xfce ) David Locklear P.S. It would be nice if distros offered an easier way to customize the login backsplash.

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Re: Cron sometimes starts two jobs from the same crontab entry
by Iosif Fettich 07 Apr '20

07 Apr '20

Hi Terry, > I have assumed the system time is always UTC synchronised using chronyd. The > servers user code is running under the GMT timezone. I was wondering if the > tweaking of the time by chronyd could cause this issue, but I would have > thought this situation would have been handled by crond if this could happen > and I have seen this issue about 4 times in a year, so it is not a totally > sporadic event. grep-ing my /var/log/messages brings up entries like Apr 5 08:16:43 localhost chronyd[900]: System clock wrong by 1.516625 seconds, adjustment started Apr 5 08:16:43 localhost chronyd[900]: System clock was stepped by 1.516625 seconds Maybe you have some similar adjustements or bigger on the system? One second off hitting exactly the moment your crontab scripts start could be an explanation to 'double starts', although it seems rather improbable to have that happen that often. If you still have some logs around from the last time it happened, maybe you can check if there is a connection between such adjustemnts and the double-starters. Otherwise, checking if such adjustements are happening often per day or just once in weeks might be a next step to do in order to track down the issue. Best regards, Iosif

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Why can I view my encrypted lvm logical volumes without opening them with my passphrase?
by Sreyan Chakravarty 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

I just installed Fedora 31 on my laptop. I had created a volume group and logical volumes from the Anaconda installer itself. I had marked the checkbox for encrypting my fedora partition , and when booting I am asked my passphrase, so I thought everything was fine. But when I am booting into a live environment and do an `lsblk` . This is my output: ``` NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:0 0 931.5G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:1 0 512M 0 part ├─sda2 8:2 0 512M 0 part └─sda3 8:3 0 930.5G 0 part ├─vgfedora-root-real 253:0 0 700G 0 lvm │ ├─vgfedora-root 253:1 0 700G 0 lvm │ └─vgfedora-before_hibernate 253:3 0 700G 0 lvm └─vgfedora-before_hibernate-cow 253:2 0 50G 0 lvm └─vgfedora-before_hibernate 253:3 0 700G 0 lvm ``` 1. **How on earth are my Volume Groups visible from the live environment?** I did not even open up with `cryptsetup open --type luks2 /dev/sda3` . What is going on here ? 2. As you can see **I have created a snapshot, is that even encrypted ?** Or is it only my root ? **I need everything to be encrypted even snapshots.** 3. I can even do a `vgchange -a y` and select all my logical volumes. **This really should not happen as it should not even be visible from the live environment** . Again what is going on ? 4. **How can I verify what is encrypted and what is not ?** My understanding was that the LVM would not even be visible since it is under encryption. So how am I able to detect it from the live environment ? Let me know if any other information is required. Thanks. -- Regards, Sreyan Chakravarty

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GRUB2 defaults to rescue after dnf update
by Richard Shaw 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

I recently updated one of my F31 machines and rebooted it remotely. I was wondering why I couldn't get to it after a couple of minutes so I went out and switch the input to the PC (It's the multimedia machine) to be greeted by a rescue prompt. I rebooted again locally to find that when the grub menu appeared it was defaulting to the rescue line. I also just noticed there are 5 kernels listed in the menu but I only have the usual 3 installed. grubenv has the latest, 5.5.13, as the saved entry but this appears to have no effect. # grub2-editenv list saved_entry=6ca716a66a574a03a155f3fcdcea1c3f-5.5.13-200.fc31.x86_64 boot_success=1 boot_indeterminate=1 kernelopts=root=/dev/mapper/vg_calvin-lv_root ro rd.lvm.lv=vg_calvin/lv_swap rd.dm=0 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd.lvm.lv=vg_calvin/lv_root KEYTABLE=us rd.md=0 rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rhgb quiet rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau nvidia-drm.modeset=1 Any ideas? Thanks, Richard

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pm-suspend command
by Frank Elsner 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

Hi, if I remember correctly there was a "pm-suspend" command available in Fedora. | # pm-suspend | bash: pm-suspend: command not found Is it gone? How to suspend the system by command? Stay healthy, Frank

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Replicating an installation
by Geoffrey Leach 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

My internet service comes over a satellite, and with it a relatively small monthly download allowance. Which motivates the following question. Once I have installed a new disto and downloaded the RPMs that I use, is there a procedure by which I could gather together everything that I have added, so that I could transfer the files (RPMs, or whatever) to a local system, without resorting to the internet? (Or, at least, to a significant amount!) Thanks.

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openvas install
by Frederic Muller 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

HI! Just trying to install openvas on Fedora and getting this: sudo dnf install openvas-gsa Last metadata expiration check: 2:24:25 ago on Sun 05 Apr 2020 02:22:38 PM +07. Error: Problem: conflicting requests - nothing provides libopenvas_base.so.9()(64bit) needed by openvas-gsa-7.0.3-10.fc31.x86_64 - nothing provides libopenvas_misc.so.9()(64bit) needed by openvas-gsa-7.0.3-10.fc31.x86_64 - nothing provides libopenvas_omp.so.9()(64bit) needed by openvas-gsa-7.0.3-10.fc31.x86_64 (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) Did a few google searches but didn't find any solution. Any idea what I'm missing or eventually should I report a bug against the package? Thank you. Fred

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spinfinity plymouth theme mystery
by Sam Varshavchik 06 Apr '20

06 Apr '20

This laptop boots with the spinfinity plymouth theme, and there's a white progress indication bar at the bottom of the display, progressing from left to right, during the boot. That other laptop, over there, also boots with the spinfinity plymouth theme, but there is no progress bar. Spinfinity just spins on its own, and that's the only thing that happens, until the desktop comes up. I compared the plymouth packages on the two laptops. The only difference is that the first laptop has plymouth-theme-solar theme installed, in addition to spinfinity; and all other plymouth packages are the same. I'll try installing the solar theme on the other laptop, but I can't see that making a difference. The absence of the progress bar, on the 2nd laptop, is a Scooby-Doo mystery to me.

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