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Best app for graphing services?
by Alex 13 Mar '23

13 Mar '23

Hi, I've been using munin to graph performance of services like mariadb and apache, but looking for something different or better. I thought cacti might be that program, but it's not really designed to graph at the individual application level. Is there something different you're all using these days that might be worth considering? munin is okay, but I never felt like it was very accurate, in addition to requiring lots of regular maintenance to make sure the scripts are working properly. Thanks, Alex

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Docker containers and Cockpit
by Sergio Belkin 13 Mar '23

13 Mar '23

Hi, I'm wondering if Cockpit can handle Docker containers in Fedora 37. Can anyone confirm if this is possible or not, and if so, give me some tips on how to do it? I see a section for podman containers but not for docker ones. Thanks in advance! -- -- Sergio Belkin LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org

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gthumb crash on startup and bugzilla reporting
by Max Pyziur 12 Mar '23

12 Mar '23

Greetings, I occasionally forget to shutdown gthumb before shutting down my pc. On startup of the PC, I see a message indicating that gthumb crashed and asking whether or not I want to report the bug. (This is more of a nuisance; I can always start gthumb, and it works very well.) I click yes; the process runs, downloads debug packages, etc. When it is ready to report, send in the information, I get the following message: Backtrace is generated and saved, 145368 bytes --- Running analyze_BodhiUpdates --- Looking for similar problems in bugzilla fatal: RPC failed at server. The API key you specified is invalid. Please check that you typed it correctly. abrt-action-find-bodhi-update [ERROR] Search for duplicate bugs failed: None ('analyze_BodhiUpdates' exited with 2) ####### So, I would like to complete this process; I have bugzilla credentials; do I apply them somewhere in this report? Or do I have to acquire other credentials for this API? Thank you, Max PYziur pyz(a)brama.com

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Fedora 37 qemu/kvm Centos 8 virtual machine Problem
by Robert McBroom 10 Mar '23

10 Mar '23

Installed CentOS-STREAM 8 ON A QEMU/KVM virtual machine. Initially the reboot went only to a blank display. Editing the grub menu to give a terminal boot was successful. Succeeded to get a graphical screen with xinit and a terminal to explore the options. Was able to install xfce for a graphical desktop but gnome fails. The display managers gdm and sddm both fail with a blank screen with the mouse cursor. The others lxdm and lighdm don't show as being available. How do I get the session to start properly?

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evolution trash mail folder management
by Tim 09 Mar '23

09 Mar '23

Hi, I was trying to find some info about how Evolution automatically purges the trash mail folder, but haven't found any actual details. The documentation is typically vague, barely saying anything further than what you can see in the configuration preference windows. I hate manuals which say things like "the delete button deletes the message." I can figure that out, I'm not a moron, but the person who thought that tiny bit of documentation (and no further information), was adequate documentation, clearly was. Rehashing the GUI with a couple of extra words is NOT instructional documentation. Specifically, in the preferences (Evolution Preferences, Mail Preferences section, General tab), you have a few options about emptying trash folders, under the Delete Mail heading.: On exit, every time Once per day Once per week Once per month Immediately, on folder leave The first and last are completely obvious how they work, the middle ones less so. On other mail clients, I've come across options for purging old mail depending on the age of the individual message (whether this be trash folders or any other folder). This makes sense, you might want to keep mail for 7 days (or whatever length), then purge it automatically. The (user-defined) old mail disappears, the newer mail remains. And Evolution does seem to offer purging options of that kind if you right-click on individual folders, open their properties, and delve into the archive tab (not where I'd expect to find deletion options). That *would* be assuming that the delete option does actually delete the message, rather than move it to the trash folder, but it does move it to the trash folder. Though, if you go to the trash folder, and set a similar purging option, it does actually delete the messages from the trash folder (at least it doesn't delete messages in the trash folder by sending them to the trash folder in an infinite loop). If you want to manage the trash folder by right-clicking on it, and setting some options, in a non-obvious place, you get reasonably understandable results. But if you decided to manage the trash folder by going through the main preferences, you have some oddball choices. And that may have been the only place you thought to set options about managing a trash folder, I know it was the only place that I looked for a very long time. The idea that on some unspecified time of day, day of week, or day in the month, all mail in a folder will disappear, whether its been there for 1 hour or 3 days, seems a particularly stupid way to do things. The concept of a trash folder is that there's the opportunity to undelete a message. You might set it for a week, so that the trash folder stays small, but you can get a message back tomorrow that you accidentally (or on purpose) deleted. But the list of options suggest that you could delete a message, and it could disappear within the next 5 minutes, since once per month could be in 5 minutes time. After that long ramble, my specific question: Has anyone discovered *when* the once per day/week/month purges occur? -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.1.14-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Feb 26 00:31:11 UTC 2023 x86_64

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MongoDB for fedora37?
by Alex 09 Mar '23

09 Mar '23

Hi, I don't see mongodb in the default fedora37 repo. Anyone know where I might find a maintained package? I've been using the one from centos7, I believe, but it's dated and would like to find a more current version. Thanks, Alex

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tmpfiles.d/ update with today's update
by Neal Becker 08 Mar '23

08 Mar '23

Running todays dnf update I saw: usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/sddm.conf:6: Line references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/sddm → /run/sddm; please update the tmpfiles.d/ drop-in file accordingly. Any ideas what this is about? Thanks, Neal

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chcon
by Patrick Dupre 07 Mar '23

07 Mar '23

Hello, I can run scilab as root user, but as a standard user, I get: /usr/bin/chcon: failed to change context of '/usr/local/scilab/scilab-6.1.1/bin/scilab-bin' to ‘unconfined_u:object_r:execmem_exec_t:s0’: Operation not permitted Error: Cannot chcon 'scilab-bin' Can I fix this issue? Thank. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE Tel: +33 (0)380395988 | | Room# D114A ===========================================================================

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37 systemd pulseaudio paradox
by Felix Miata 07 Mar '23

07 Mar '23

Can anyone reconcile the following? # journalctl -b --no-hostname | grep pulse Mar 06 01:38:45 systemd[577]: pulseaudio.socket - Sound System was skipped because of a failed condition check (ConditionUser=!root). Mar 06 01:38:45 systemd[577]: pulseaudio.service - Sound Service was skipped because of a failed condition check (ConditionUser=!root). # systemctl cat pulseaudio.service No files found for pulseaudio.service. # systemctl cat pulseaudio.socket No files found for pulseaudio.socket. # How can a condition be checked and fail if there are no such files connected to a service or socket checked? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Re: software or hardware raid?
by J.Witvliet＠mindef.nl 07 Mar '23

07 Mar '23

From: "Chris Adams" <linux(a)cmadams.net<mailto:linux@cmadams.net>> Date: Friday, 3 March 2023 at 00:09:48 To: "users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org" <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org<mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Subject: Re: software or hardware raid? Once upon a time, George N. White III <gnwiii(a)gmail.com> said: > Some data can be replaced, but there are also real-time data flows > where data are lost forever when the system does down. I recall a > lost-of-data incident where the system was on UPS+ generator but > IT hadn't received the replacement for a failed UPS battery in the > network closet. Lots of the time, UPSes and generators are not actively monitored and tested. An untested backup system is not a backup system, it's just another point of failure! I have seen failures of big UPSes, generators, transfer switches... you name it, even if it is "redundant", it can (and will) still fail. -- Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net> _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue Relying on untested and unmonitored infra is a recipe for disaster. Also, check if you can use the backup: try a restore… A customer once used the same media for a backup needing several media… 🫢😂 Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het elektronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages.

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