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Invitation to Contribute to Fedora Test Days: Podman Desktop Testing
by Sumantro Mukherjee 20 Mar '24

20 Mar '24

Dear Fedora Community Member, We are excited to invite you to participate in an upcoming Fedora Test Day focused on testing Podman Desktop. Podman Desktop is an innovative tool that enables you to manage containers on your desktop with ease. Date: 2024-03-20 Your feedback and testing are invaluable in ensuring the stability and functionality of Podman Desktop. By participating, you'll have the opportunity to: Test Podman Desktop in various scenarios on your system. Identify and report bugs, issues, or improvements. Collaborate with fellow Fedora enthusiasts and developers. No prior testing experience is necessary. Whether you're a seasoned tester or new to the process, your contributions are highly valued. If you're interested in joining us for this Test Day, please reply to this email or sign up on the Fedora Wiki page[0]. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or need assistance getting started. Thank you for your dedication to improving Fedora, and we look forward to your participation! Best regards, [0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-20_Podman_Desktop -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?
by R. G. Newbury 19 Mar '24

19 Mar '24

On 2024-03-19 10:14, users-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora? If you need a fast scanner, with a document feeder, and double-sided, the Brother ADS1000 is fantastic. It has a near vertical document feeder, which you can keep topped up with new pages. Works double-sided at up to 16ppm. Once did over 2,500 pages in about 6 hours. Two of us working: one removing staples and paperclips, and in-bound/out-bound handling, one stamping Bates numbers and feeding the scanner, overseeing the laptop storage into various folders. At one point did over 200 pages without stopping, until a missed staple caused a blockage. Very fast in black and white, slightly slower in color. And small! About 3"x4"x 12" long. Very portable. (The ADS1000 has been superseded by the ADS1200). G. -- R. Geoffrey Newbury

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Join the Rawhide Test Days: Help Shape the Future of Fedora Linux!
by Sumantro Mukherjee 18 Mar '24

18 Mar '24

Dear Fedorans, Are you ready to make a difference in the world of Fedora Linux? We're thrilled to announce the launch of our brand new test day series: Rawhide Test Days! These events are your opportunity to play a crucial role in ensuring the quality and reliability of upcoming Fedora releases. Rawhide test days will play their unique role in keeping Fedora Linux releases on time. Fedora test days are renowned for their inclusivity – they welcome participation from both seasoned Fedora contributors and newcomers alike. If you've been itching to dip your toes into the world of Fedora Linux contribution, this is your perfect starting point. For some time now, we've been dedicated to elevating the quality standards of Fedora by implementing rigorous testing processes well in advance. Our Fedora Changes process facilitates the submission of changesets long before the official release cycle begins. As part of this effort, we're excited to introduce Rawhide Test Days, an initiative designed to test these changesets thoroughly and identify any potential (blocker) bugs early on. To kick off this exciting journey, we're focusing our efforts on testing DNF 5 – a crucial changeset proposed for Fedora Linux 41[0]. With the introduction of the brand new DNF5 package in Rawhide, we're organizing a test days to gather initial feedback before it becomes the default. We'll be rigorously testing DNF5 against its basic acceptance criteria to ensure a seamless transition. Mark your calendars for our Rawhide Test Days, taking place from Friday, March 15th, through Tuesday, March 19th. Your participation during this week will be invaluable as we work together to refine Fedora Linux for its upcoming release. Ready to dive in? Visit our test week page [1] to learn more about how you can contribute and make your mark on the future of Fedora. Happy testing, and we can't wait to see you there! Best regards, //sumantro [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceDnfWithDnf5 [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-03-15_Fedora_40_DNF_5 -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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font issue.
by home user 18 Mar '24

18 Mar '24

(f38 last patched last Thursday; gnome) I'm have some trouble with the display of Chinese characters in some situations. 1. In Firefox, Chinese characters show up as rectangles with 4-digit hex numbers in them. The font is set to the AR PL UKai family of fonts. 2. In the gnome-font-viewer, the AR PL UKai family of fonts is shown, but the Install button is active, implying that I do not currently have it on my workstation. But... ----- bash.12[~]: ls /usr/share/fonts/cjkuni-ukai/ ukai.ttc bash.13[~]: ----- So the AR PL UKai family of fonts is installed on my workstation (and has been for over a decade). 3. In MATE's "Font Viewer", the AR PL UKai family of fonts is shown, and is marked installed. 4. In Thunderbird, Chinese characters are properly displayed using the AR PL UKai family of fonts. 5. In LibreOffice, Chinese characters are properly displayed using the AR PL UKai family of fonts. 6. In vim and gvim, Chinese characters are properly displayed using the AR PL UKai family of fonts. 7. In a terminal, Chinese characters are properly displayed using the AR PL UKai family of fonts. 8. In ibus(? - tool used to enter Chinese characters), Chinese characters are properly displayed using the AR PL UKai family of fonts. Why Are Chinese characters not properly displayed in Firefox, and why does the gnome-font-viewer seem to think they're not installed on my workstation? How do I fix this? For a few reasons, the AR PL UKai family of fonts is what I want used for Chinese character display. side issue: I was told by Peng Wu(?) a few years ago that the AR PL UKai family of fonts is no longer supported. I don't see a KaiTi font in the noto font collection. What good currently-supported KaiTi font family is available for me to replace the AR PL UKai family of fonts on my workstation?

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Fora vs. mailing lists
by Thomas Cameron 16 Mar '24

16 Mar '24

<Insert obligatory "old man shouting at cloud" meme here> Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct mail folder, I can read through them at my leisure, and I only have to deal with one client - my mail client. My mail client defaults to sane viewing rules, threaded, in the order I prefer. It's the same experience across every mailing list I'm a member of. I love that. It's very accessibility-friendly. I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. And I have to go out of my way to even remember all the fora I am a member of. For those of us who are members of a bunch, it's kind of a beating - especially if you're an ADHD person, like me. I get that I can (sometimes) set up email notifications when there are responses to my posts or comments, but... if we're already emailing forum members, why the heck don't we just use email lists? I also love that I see interesting problems on mailing lists that I'd never thought of or dealt with, and it's right there, in the list's mail folder. I learn a LOT perusing those messages. It's there, I can easily read through the threads when I get a minute. And I don't have to remember to fire up a new browser tab to parse them. The whole "fora are an archive" argument is kinda nonsensical, since mailing lists are generally archived on the web, as well. In my experience, mailing list archives are easier to search than a forum. I get the sense that moving from email lists to fora was a move to force folks to go to a web site to drive advertising. I kinda hate that. When Red Hat moved from email lists to fora (log in required), I got the sense that it was really to gather information about who was interacting with their web site. Ditto pretty much every other vendor who moved from email lists to web based fora - this isn't a Red Hat or Fedora specific thing. Am I the only one who feels this way? Has the day finally come where I'm just old and set in my ways? Are there others who prefer mailing lists to fora? To be clear, I am not bashing fora, per se - I'm just saying that for me, they're not NEARLY as easy to deal with as email lists. If you like fora, that's awesome. I'm not attacking you. Let's nip that in the bud. I'm not looking for a flame war, just trying to see if other feel the same way. Let's keep it civil. Thanks, Thomas

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dmesg suddenly fails when run as normal user on FC39
by Ron Flory 14 Mar '24

14 Mar '24

Hi- does not happen on FC38, or any prior RedHat/Fedora version since forever. dmesg dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted Userspace scripts (such as used to read pics from cameras & sdcards) and many progs often use dmesg to detect or identify things like startup probe info, USB devs, partition numbers etc. I worked around this by setting the suid bit of `which dmesg`, but it would be rude to force everybody to manually do this as part of post-install cleanup. Hopefully an unintended side-effect and not a new "feature" that wasn't thought through completely. A web-search suggests debian/ubuntu may have been doing this for awhile- but we really don't need to be just like them... ;)

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Failed to start jobs message from today's F39 update
by Neal Becker 13 Mar '24

13 Mar '24

Running today's dnf update: ... Running scriptlet: grub2-common-1:2.06-118.fc39.noarch 32/32 Running scriptlet: armadillo-12.8.0-1.fc39.x86_64 32/32 Failed to start jobs: Failed to enqueue some jobs, see logs for details: Invalid argument Should I worry? I don't even know what armadillo is.

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Configuring LXC containers
by Patrick O'Callaghan 13 Mar '24

13 Mar '24

I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie-friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the following error: $ systemd-run --unit=my-unit --user --scope -p "Delegate=yes" -- lxc-start test Running scope as unit: my-unit.scope lxc-start: test: lxccontainer.c: wait_on_daemonized_start: 877 Received container state "ABORTING" instead of "RUNNING" lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 306 The container failed to start lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 309 To get more details, run the container in foreground mode lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 311 Additional information can be obtained by setting the --logfile and --logpriority options Any insights would be welcome. (Just in case, I tried running with SElinux turned off, but it made no difference.) poc

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port forwarding and RDP or ssh
by Alex 12 Mar '24

12 Mar '24

Hi, I have a fedora38 system on Optonline with port 1024 forwarded from the router to 1024 on the fedora38 system where ssh is listening. I'm currently using the following to connect: $ ssh -i ~/.ssh/mykey-key.rsa -L 5901:127.0.0.1:5901 -Y -l gary remotehost -p 1024 I'd like to be able to have applications launched on the remote system appear on my desktop, also using fedora38. What's the best way to do that? I've read about RDP and gnome-remote-session but much of the docs appear to be out-of-date. General advice on what works in 2024 would be appreciated. My friend is having difficulty with his evolution configuration. I'd like to be able to launch evolution on his PC and have it appear on mine.

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ghost town
by Tim 11 Mar '24

11 Mar '24

* * * * ** some tumbleweeds drift through So, is everything working fine, or did a new release break everyone's systems so badly they can't email any more? ;-) -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.108.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 25 16:17:31 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

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