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Fedora F40 Won't Power Off
by Stephen Morris 02 Jul '24

02 Jul '24

Hi, Ever since a couple of updates ago, from KDE, when I select "Shutdown" KDE displays a black screen (it used to be that you could press the escape key and it would show you the apps that were closing down so you could see which apps were causing shutdown/reboot lag, but that doesn't seem to be working at the moment) but never physically powers off the pc, even if I leave it running all day/all night. Has anyone else seen this issue or know what I can look for to identify why? I have just put on an update that has installed kernel 6.9.4, I haven't done a restart yet to see if that rectifies the issue. regards, Steve

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crazy dependencies
by Tim 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

I'd like to know why this: dnf remove gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1- plugins-bad-free-extras-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad- freeworld-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 Wants to do all of this (quoted below), it's a virtual system destruct for the want of removing some codecs. What harebrained logic is involved in working this out? It's not competent computer coding by any stretch of the imagination. I'd say that nearly ALL of those things would have been installed on the system before I'd installed those gstreamer things, so they're clearly NOT "dependent" on them. As to why I want to remove them, I'm trying to narrow down why playing some video files *sometimes* crash my system hard. And I say "sometimes" because at other times the same video file will play without any problems. Putting noautoremove into the command reduces the list of things it shouldn't interfere with down from 153 to 46 packages, but it's still interfering with things it shouldn't touch, and will end up destroying the system. I'm yet to see if it actually helps with the crashing problem, but I had to resort to: rpm -e --nodeps gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.20.3- 1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-extras-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 Dependencies resolved. ======================================================================= ========================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ======================================================================= ========================================== Removing: gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free x86_64 1.20.3-1.fc36 @updates 9.6 M gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-extras x86_64 1.20.3-1.fc36 @updates 1.4 M gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld x86_64 1:1.20.3-1.fc36 @rpmfusion-free-updates 761 k Removing dependent packages: NetworkManager-l2tp-gnome x86_64 1.20.8-1.fc36 @updates 270 k NetworkManager-libreswan-gnome x86_64 1.2.16-1.fc36 @anaconda 145 k NetworkManager-openconnect-gnome x86_64 1.2.8-2.fc36 @updates 151 k NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome x86_64 1:1.8.18-1.fc36 @anaconda 370 k NetworkManager-pptp-gnome x86_64 1:1.2.10-1.fc36 @anaconda 143 k NetworkManager-sstp-gnome x86_64 1:1.3.1-1.fc36 @updates 297 k NetworkManager-strongswan-gnome x86_64 1.6.0-1.fc36 @updates 158 k NetworkManager-vpnc-gnome x86_64 1:1.2.8-1.fc36 @anaconda 152 k anaconda x86_64 36.16.5-2.fc36 @updates 0 anaconda-live x86_64 36.16.5-2.fc36 @updates 25 k atril x86_64 1.26.1-1.fc36 @updates 13 M atril-caja x86_64 1.26.1-1.fc36 @updates 34 k atril-thumbnailer x86_64 1.26.1-1.fc36 @updates 583 evolution x86_64 3.44.4-3.fc36 @updates 17 M fusion-icon noarch 1:0.2.4-19.fc36 @anaconda 121 k gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-fluidsynth x86_64 1.20.3-1.fc36 @updates 32 k gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-wildmidi x86_64 1.20.3-1.fc36 @updates 28 k gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-zbar x86_64 1.20.3-1.fc36 @updates 24 k ibus-gtk4 x86_64 1.5.26-9.fc36 @updates 40 k initial-setup-gui x86_64 0.3.94-2.fc36 @anaconda 26 k kdump-anaconda-addon noarch 006- 6.20220128git9603258.fc36 @anaconda 165 k mate-desktop x86_64 1.26.1-1.fc36 @updates 176 k mate-system-monitor x86_64 1.26.0-2.fc36 @anaconda 11 M mate-user-guide noarch 1.26.0-2.fc36 @anaconda 74 M pidgin x86_64 2.14.8-5.fc36 @updates 3.2 M purple-facebook x86_64 0.9.6-11.fc36 @fedora 265 k yelp x86_64 2:42.2-1.fc36 @updates 2.2 M Removing unused dependencies: GraphicsMagick x86_64 1.3.38-2.fc36 @updates 4.9 M NetworkManager-l2tp x86_64 1.20.8-1.fc36 @updates 638 k NetworkManager-libreswan x86_64 1.2.16-1.fc36 @anaconda 425 k NetworkManager-openconnect x86_64 1.2.8-2.fc36 @updates 2.8 M NetworkManager-openvpn x86_64 1:1.8.18-1.fc36 @anaconda 1.2 M NetworkManager-pptp x86_64 1:1.2.10-1.fc36 @anaconda 602 k NetworkManager-sstp x86_64 1:1.3.1-1.fc36 @updates 607 k NetworkManager-strongswan x86_64 1.6.0-1.fc36 @updates 11 k NetworkManager-vpnc x86_64 1:1.2.8-1.fc36 @anaconda 664 k anaconda-core x86_64 36.16.5-2.fc36 @updates 11 M anaconda-gui x86_64 36.16.5-2.fc36 @updates 2.5 M anaconda-tui x86_64 36.16.5-2.fc36 @updates 376 k anaconda-user-help noarch 26.2-2.fc36 @anaconda 577 k anaconda-widgets x86_64 36.16.5-2.fc36 @updates 97 k atril-libs x86_64 1.26.1-1.fc36 @updates 1.0 M cmark-lib x86_64 0.29.0-6.fc36 @fedora 289 k cyrus-sasl-md5 x86_64 2.1.27-18.fc36 @fedora 89 k cyrus-sasl-scram x86_64 2.1.27-18.fc36 @fedora 44 k djvulibre-libs x86_64 3.5.28-2.fc36 @anaconda 1.7 M evolution-data-server x86_64 3.44.4-2.fc36 @updates 8.3 M evolution-data-server-langpacks noarch 3.44.4-2.fc36 @updates 7.8 M evolution-langpacks noarch 3.44.4-3.fc36 @updates 37 M farstream02 x86_64 0.2.9-8.fc36 @fedora 731 k flatpak-libs x86_64 1.12.8-1.fc36 @updates 997 k fluid-soundfont-lite-patches noarch 3.1-26.fc36 @fedora 195 M geocode-glib x86_64 3.26.4-1.fc36 @updates 231 k gjs x86_64 1.72.3-1.fc36 @updates 1.5 M gnome-autoar x86_64 0.4.4-1.fc36 @updates 164 k gnome-desktop3 x86_64 42.10-1.fc36 @updates 3.0 M gnome-online-accounts x86_64 3.44.0-2.fc36 @updates 2.0 M gtk4 x86_64 4.6.9-1.fc36 @updates 19 M gtkspell x86_64 2.0.16-25.fc36 @fedora 87 k gupnp-igd x86_64 1.2.0-5.fc36 @anaconda 68 k highlight x86_64 4.1-2.fc36 @fedora 3.8 M initial-setup x86_64 0.3.94-2.fc36 @anaconda 370 k keybinder3 x86_64 0.3.2-13.fc36 @anaconda 32 k ldns x86_64 1.8.1-4.fc36 @anaconda 446 k libde265 x86_64 1.0.9-1.fc36 @rpmfusion-free-updates 817 k libgadu x86_64 1.12.2-20.fc36 @fedora 257 k libgdata x86_64 0.18.1-4.fc36 @fedora 1.9 M libgweather x86_64 40.0-3.fc36 @fedora 22 M libical-glib x86_64 3.0.14-1.fc36 @fedora 1.7 M liblrdf x86_64 0.5.0-24.fc36 @fedora 61 k libmanette x86_64 0.2.6-4.fc36 @anaconda 229 k libnice x86_64 0.1.19-1.fc36 @updates 494 k libnice-gstreamer1 x86_64 0.1.19-1.fc36 @updates 32 k libnma-gtk4 x86_64 1.8.38-1.fc36 @updates 353 k libphonenumber x86_64 8.12.11-11.fc36 @fedora 17 M libpskc x86_64 2.6.7-3.fc36 @anaconda 87 k libpurple x86_64 2.14.8-5.fc36 @updates 26 M libreport-anaconda x86_64 2.17.4-1.fc36 @updates 19 k libreswan x86_64 4.11-1.fc36 @updates 4.9 M librtmp x86_64 2.4- 21.20190330.gitc5f04a5.fc36 @rpmfusion-free 157 k libspectre x86_64 0.2.9-6.fc36 @anaconda 89 k libsrtp x86_64 2.3.0-8.fc36 @anaconda 125 k libtimezonemap x86_64 0.4.5.1-11.fc36 @anaconda 6.7 M libwpe x86_64 1.12.0-3.fc36 @anaconda 46 k libytnef x86_64 1:2.0-1.fc36 @fedora 130 k mate-desktop-configs noarch 1.26.1-1.fc36 @updates 9.8 k mathjax noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 25 M mathjax-ams-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 267 k mathjax-caligraphic-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 98 k mathjax-fraktur-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 225 k mathjax-main-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 558 k mathjax-math-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 348 k mathjax-sansserif-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 240 k mathjax-script-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 60 k mathjax-size1-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 37 k mathjax-size2-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 34 k mathjax-size3-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 16 k mathjax-size4-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 29 k mathjax-stixweb-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 3.1 M mathjax-typewriter-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 106 k mathjax-vector-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 13 k mathjax-winchrome-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 8.9 k mathjax-winie6-fonts noarch 2.7.4-10.fc36 @anaconda 56 k meanwhile x86_64 1.1.1-1.fc36 @updates 281 k mjpegtools-libs x86_64 2.2.1-2.fc36 @rpmfusion-free 429 k nss-tools x86_64 3.89.0-1.fc36 @updates 2.4 M openconnect x86_64 9.01-3.fc36 @updates 3.7 M openvpn x86_64 2.5.9-1.fc36 @updates 1.8 M ostree x86_64 2022.5-2.fc36 @updates 562 k pkcs11-helper x86_64 1.29.0-1.fc36 @anaconda 160 k pptp x86_64 1.10.0-14.fc36 @anaconda 149 k python-qt5-rpm-macros noarch 5.15.6-10.fc36 @updates 144 python3-kickstart noarch 3.36-1.fc36 @anaconda 2.5 M python3-meh noarch 0.50-5.fc36 @anaconda 288 k python3-meh-gui noarch 0.50-5.fc36 @anaconda 24 k python3-productmd noarch 1.35-1.fc36 @updates 256 k python3-pwquality x86_64 1.4.4-7.fc36 @anaconda 26 k python3-pyqt5-sip x86_64 12.9.0-3.fc36 @anaconda 154 k python3-qt5 x86_64 5.15.6-10.fc36 @updates 7.0 M python3-qt5-base x86_64 5.15.6-10.fc36 @updates 17 M python3-requests-file noarch 1.5.1-5.fc36 @anaconda 9.9 k python3-requests-ftp noarch 0.3.1-24.fc36 @anaconda 36 k python3-simpleline noarch 1.9.0-2.fc36 @anaconda 437 k qt5-qtconnectivity x86_64 5.15.8-1.fc36 @updates 1.4 M qt5-qtmultimedia x86_64 5.15.8-1.fc36 @updates 3.1 M qt5-qtserialport x86_64 5.15.8-1.fc36 @updates 215 k qt5-qtwebsockets x86_64 5.15.8-1.fc36 @updates 276 k rest x86_64 0.8.1-12.fc36 @fedora 195 k spandsp x86_64 0.0.6-14.fc36 @fedora 877 k sstp-client x86_64 1.0.18-1.fc36 @updates 156 k stoken-libs x86_64 0.92-6.fc36 @anaconda 94 k strongswan x86_64 5.9.9-2.fc36 @updates 4.7 M strongswan-charon-nm x86_64 5.9.9-2.fc36 @updates 63 k svt-hevc-libs x86_64 1.5.1-3.fc36 @rpmfusion-free 2.2 M texlive-lib x86_64 9:20210325-47.fc36 @anaconda 1.1 M tigervnc-license noarch 1.13.1-3.fc36 @updates 18 k tigervnc-server-minimal x86_64 1.13.1-3.fc36 @updates 2.8 M trousers-lib x86_64 0.3.15-6.fc36 @anaconda 475 k urw-base35-fonts-legacy noarch 20200910-11.fc36 @updates 4.3 M vpnc x86_64 0.5.3-43.svn550.fc36 @anaconda 213 k vpnc-script noarch 20220404- 1.git40a8c62c.fc36 @updates 38 k webkit2gtk3 x86_64 2.40.1-1.fc36 @updates 60 M wildmidi-libs x86_64 0.4.4-3.fc36 @fedora 169 k wpebackend-fdo x86_64 1.12.1-1.fc36 @updates 101 k xisxwayland x86_64 1-3.fc36 @anaconda 17 k xl2tpd x86_64 1.3.17-1.fc36 @updates 203 k xvinfo x86_64 1.1.3-4.fc36 @anaconda 23 k yelp-libs x86_64 2:42.2-1.fc36 @updates 319 k yelp-xsl noarch 42.1-1.fc36 @updates 1.4 M zbar x86_64 0.23.90-1.fc36 @updates 369 k Transaction Summary ======================================================================= ========================================== Remove 153 Packages Freed space: 679 M Is this ok [y/N]: n Operation aborted. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically 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I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.2.15-100.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu May 11 16:51:53 UTC 2023 x86_64

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Chrome/Chromium illegal instruction lately?
by Chris Adams 01 Jul '24

01 Jul '24

After some recent updates, I seem to get an illegal instruction the first time or two I start Chrome/Chromium after boot. If I close it and reopen it a time or two, it'll work like normal from that point on, until I reboot again. It's the weirdest thing, I can't think of anything I've ever seen act like this before. Not sure if this is a problem with Chrome/Chromium, some library dependency, or even the kernel. It's happening for me on both Fedora 39 and 40 (both x86_64). dmesg shows: [ 127.676343] traps: chromium-browse[3675] trap int3 ip:55bcd5b053c6 sp:7fff6061e350 error:0 in chromium-browser[55bccfde1000+d8af000] -- Chris Adams <linux(a)cmadams.net>

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alternatives is forgetful?
by Tom Horsley 30 Jun '24

30 Jun '24

I've always set my emacs alternatives to lucid emacs. Today I did a big dnf update, rebooted to get new kernel, and then got an error when I started emacs about the "pure GTK" version not operating correctly under X11 (one of the reasons I use lucid). Why did my alternatives config setting revert? Anyway, I've now removed all versions except lucid. Maybe that will make it stick :-).

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Seamonkey not displaying pix
by Beartooth 29 Jun '24

29 Jun '24

Seamonkey under the last several releases of Fedora Linux does not display pix. It says, inter alia, "Error: could not load." It also gives me a link to Media Viewer; but the help page for that is over my head. I tried posting via Gmane to seamonkey.user, but have had no replies. I tried dnf reinstall seamonkey (with seamonkey not open), but that didn't help. It used to be a good browser. Can I fix it? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.

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APX and AVX10 compiled binaries coming to Clear Linux this week how about Fedora?
by Ryan Bach 29 Jun '24

29 Jun '24

https://community.clearlinux.org/t/apx-and-avx10-compiled-binaries-coming-t… Does Fedora 41 have x86-64-1-4 optimized rpms to select from?

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brlaser fails to build
by Michael Hennebry 28 Jun '24

28 Jun '24

I recently installed F40. My Brother HL-L2360DW printer is one of the few that fedora linus's does not handle by default. In the past, brlaser, https://github.com/pdewacht/brlaser , has helped me out of that difficulty. This time, no go: Despite doing a sudo dnf install 'cups*' , make tells gives me undefined reference messages: cupsRasterReadPixels cupsRasterReadHeader2 cupsRasterOpen Anyone have an idea how to fix this? -- Michael hennebry(a)mail.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods

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bug report fails
by Robert McBroom 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

Trying to send a report to bugzilla. It fails. Don't know what this message implies --- Running report_Bugzilla --- Checking for duplicates Bug search failed. Server says: 400 Bad Request Creating a new bug... Failed to create bug. Server says: 400 Bad Request {"message":"The API key you specified is invalid. Please check that you typed it correctly.","documentation":"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/docs/en/html/api/index.html","error":true,"code":306} ('report_Bugzilla' exited with 1)

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smokeping alternative?
by Alex 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

Hi, I've been using smokeping to monitor network problems for what seems like decades. It now seems to have been removed from the internet, lol. What are you using to monitor network drop-outs and latency and traffic problems? I'm already using munin to monitor service performance, and nagios to monitor services, but I'm looking for something that can graph latency in the same way as smokeping used to. Ideas greatly appreciated.

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Using Signal-Desktop w Fedora 40
by Max Pyziur 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

Greetings, Is there a way of using Signal-Desktop with Fedora 40. C'era una volta/once upon a time, there was. But all of the instructions for finding rpms, installation, etc., are either stale or unusable (installation fails; too many depencies that are not findable). Suggestions? Thank you, Max Pyziur pyz(a)brama.com

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