February 2025 - users - Fedora mailing-lists

Would like to replace BIOS on Lenovo X131e running Fedora - should this work?
by Andre Robatino 16 Mar '25

16 Mar '25

I have a Lenovo X131e which is currently running an old BIOS from johnlewis.ie (4.0-6588-g4acd8ea-dirty, 09/04/2014). It was originally a Chromebook and I replaced the BIOS so there would be no danger of it automatically reinstalling Chrome. I see there is a Lenovo page at https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds029771-bios-update-utility-boo… with what appear to be BIOS updates from 2019 for the x131e, any machine type, but labeled as for Windows. Are other people using this already with Fedora? If I installed it using the Bootable CD image, any reason why the current Fedora-only install wouldn't continue to work? Just want to make sure since it's currently working okay and I just don't like the idea of having an old nonstandard BIOS installed.

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F41 Firefox migration
by Robert Moskowitz 08 Mar '25

08 Mar '25

I followed the process of copying my whole .mozilla hidden folder (after first renaming the one created by firefox) from my old F38 system to my new F41 system. Seems to work. Probably brought along all sorts of old cruft that might have been better lost. One problem though. On starting Firefox after installing the new .mozilla folder, I got a page opened: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/welcome/25/ Warning me that Firefox will BREAK on Mar 14, 2025 due to expiring certs. Will this be fixed automagically on a Firefox update or is there some specific file(s) to copy from that renamed .mozilla folder? thanks

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Replacing nano with vim - logout needed?
by Robert Moskowitz 08 Mar '25

08 Mar '25

I ran: dnf install vim-default-editor --allowerasing But I am still getting nano when I try to "crontab -e" Do I have to logout and back in for this change to take? Or is there an easier way?

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F40 KDE hangs after 25 minutes when idle
by Go Canes 04 Mar '25

04 Mar '25

I have a laptop running F40 Server with KDE, fully updated, that I have been using without issue. I am in the process of moving to a new laptop and plan to repurpose the old one. But I am running into an issue with the old laptop. If the laptop is idle it locks up after ~25 minutes. "Idle" can mean no one logged-in, or a user logged-in but not doing anything. If the user is doing something, it does not lock-up. "Something" can be running a Windows 10 VM, a ssh session running "top", etc. To recover the system I have to do a hard-reset using the power switch. Things I have checked: - Nothing is displayed on the screen - There are no entries in the UEFI BIOS logs - There are no messages for the lock-up shown by "journalctl -b -1 -r". - All of the entries in /etc/systemd/sleep.conf have been changed from "yes" to "no" and uncommented - no change - systemctl entries for sleep, suspend, hibernate have been masked - no change - Even though the desktop is KDE, I have checked "gsettings" for any power or timeout related settings - nothing of interest - If I boot off of a F40 Cinnamon install on a USB SSD drive, there are no issues. Theories: - auto sleep/suspend/hibernate - contraindicated by no change in behavior with changes to sleep[.conf and/or masking system units. Also, system should wake-up from any of these states. - thermal event - contraindicated by lack of UEFI log entries, lack of issue when system is active, lack of issue when booted off of USB drive - hardware issue - contraindicated by lack of issue when system is active or booted off of USB drive. Any suggestions? The only other thing I can think of to try is a re-install; I plan to do this eventually anyway, but wanted to delay for a few weeks. In the meantime I guess I can keep the Windows 10 VM running, it just seems wasteful.

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Session alrady running
by Patrick Dupre 01 Mar '25

01 Mar '25

Hello, Now, propabaly after a remmina session, I get Session alrady running Log is not possible because a remore session is already running for To login, you must log out from the remote session or force stop it The only option is to canczl. Then I run sudo pkill -KILL -u <username> This let me login, but the issue reappears at the next time. Would you have a solution? Thank. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com ===========================================================================

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Quickemu
by Patrick O'Callaghan 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

I recently came across Quickemu: https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu It's a wrapper for QEMU that facilitates the creation of VMs including multiple Linux distros, Windows verions and MacOS versions. It even downloads the ISOs for you. It would be nice to have it in the Fedora repos (licensing terms permitting). poc

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startx
by Patrick Dupre 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

Hello, I have one x session running, but I wish to open a second one I try to open a session text mode and then startx -- :2 but I get xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL, for I/O (Operation not permitted) (II) modeset(0): Initializing kms color map for depth 24, 8 bpc. xinit: connection to X server lost waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file Thanks =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com ===========================================================================

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F41 - which image has the most programs?
by Robert Moskowitz 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

I am looking into how best to do a install without "trusting" the Internet. What installation image has the mostest? How much can I get on the system (need openssl, python stuff, QR code stuff) without connecting to the Internet? After installing the OS, I would add other stuff from a repro on a DVD. It has been YEARS since I built my own repros, but I can probably still find my notes. This is all to establish a trail of trust for the software on a CA server with all its ports blocked with security table and making a Tamper Evident claim. Best I can figure out is my sole risk is that the bad guy's code provides the keypair for the certs, rather than the system generating its own. And this is hard to prove without having a fully trustable system. At least with a Tamper Evident system, this would have to come from the code initially installed. There are mitigations I can apply, but they take time to show that bad things happened. Yes, no updates to the software on a system that is expected to do its job (sign certs) for 10+ years. The root CA system may be used a couple times a year. The intermediate auth CA probably also a couple times a year. The intermediate issuing CA could well be doing 100k signings per day! (see IETF DRIP design for UAS Session IDs). But it will not use a QR code protocol that requires a human or two, but a USB protocol between it and the UAS Service Provider (USS) registration system. Only X509 stuff passed over USB (still needs to be speced). Only the issuing CA is running all the time. The others are vaulted and only taken out when the camera is recording. Fun stuff! The auditors are going to have a field day with me. I am doing my best that I don't need to spend $100K per CA key signing with them...

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New, used, Lenovo - WiFi not detected
by Robert Moskowitz 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

I just got a used Lenovo x131e supposedly just missing its HDD. Well I got plenty of HDD with old installs, not a problem. Boot up (an old F35 disk) and no WiFi. I check Bios and WiFi enabled. I put in a different WiFi card from another system. No Wifi. I boot off the F41 Xfce Live CD, no WiFi and NMCLI does not list WiFi. Any diagnostic tools to try? thanks

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Alatel USB hub
by Patrick Dupre 28 Feb '25

28 Feb '25

Hello, My USB Onetouch key does not respond when I try to connect through http://192.168.1.1 I has been working dur years. lsusb Bus 001 Device 0007: ID IBBB:f000 T & A Mobile Phones Alcatel OneTouch (mass storage mode) What can I test? Thanks =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com ===========================================================================

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Ungoogled Chromium & Youtube - anybody?
by lejeczek 27 Feb '25

27 Feb '25

Hi there. My Ungoogled Chromium stopped playing YT videos, sometimes might play first 19 secs of a clip but mostly does not even start the playback, stuck with loading logo animation - everything else loads, works on YT. I did reset ://flags & settings, also cleared data. Does YT plays in this Chromium for you, all good? thanks, L.

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F41 Xfce Mousepad launcher problems
by Robert Moskowitz 27 Feb '25

27 Feb '25

When I go to launch a new Mousepad, it gets stuffed in a currently running Mousepad window rather than a new image. Moving said window into the current workspace from where I had it. grumble. Where is the behavior controlled? I tend to have a dozen Mousepads open with some work I am doing noted (like openSSL work). F38 Xfce did it right. F41 is not and I don't see where this is controlled. I tried launching a new Firefox instance and than created a new window rather than a new tab in the then current window. So some apps get this as I want.... thanks

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F41 Xfce panel tab labels
by Robert Moskowitz 27 Feb '25

27 Feb '25

I am seeing strange, to me, labels on my window tabs in the Xfce panel. Like Firefox is labeled: Org.mozilla.firefox Terminal: Xfce4-terminal Thunderbird new message: Net.thunderbird - But this does get replaced with the subject line like this missive having Wrtie:F41 Xfc... I have looked around at various settings and don't see where this behavior is controlled. Can anyone point me to where I can alter what goes into the panel tabs? Also panel is stacking all related tabs together. I and seeing a bullet with a number and then the name when I have multiple windows of the same app. I have looked in Settings, both Windows Manager and Windows Manager Tweaks and am not finding this control. Thank you for any guidance.

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F41 - I forgot to make a swap partition
by Robert Moskowitz 27 Feb '25

27 Feb '25

Arg. the Install did not default a swap partition so I forgot to work it in when I divided the drive as I wanted... I am using EXT4 for my / /boot /home partitions. Just plain partitioning. Been doing it this way for lots of builds. But this time, I missed setting aside 16Gb as a physical swap partition, added to the memory swap. This system only has 16Gb memory, so the virtual swap starts out at 8Gb. Since /dev/sdb4, /home is the last 800Gb with 500Gb unused, is there any way to safely shrink this partition 16Gb and then allocate that as swap? thanks

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security: wted?
by home user 26 Feb '25

26 Feb '25

(f40; gnome; last patched minutes ago) When I ran chkrootkit, I got the following (including a few lines of context) regarding "wted": - - - - - - [snip] Checking `w55808'... not infected Checking `wted'... 1 deletion(s) between Tue Jan 28 07:33:49 2025 and Tue Jan 28 07:36:08 2025 1 deletion(s) between Fri Feb 7 08:13:43 2025 and Fri Feb 7 08:15:51 2025 1 deletion(s) between Sat Feb 8 15:26:59 2025 and Sat Feb 8 15:29:22 2025 1 deletion(s) between Sat Feb 8 15:29:22 2025 and Sat Feb 8 15:31:27 2025 Checking `scalper'... not infected [snip] bash.5[~]: - - - - - - I got the same thing both before and after "dnf upgrade". rkhunter made no mention of "wted". I tried to find what "wted" is: - - - - - - bash.5[~]: which wted /usr/bin/which: no wted in (/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/lib64/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/root/bin) bash.6[~]: whereis wted wted: bash.7[~]: man wted No manual entry for wted bash.8[~]: dnf info wted Last metadata expiration check: 0:23:46 ago on Thu 13 Feb 2025 10:05:51 AM MST. Error: No matching Packages to list bash.9[~]: - - - - - - duck-duck-go and google gave me nothing useful. What is "wted", and is there a security problem?

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Cannot start Internet browsers but Firefox
by Paul Smith 26 Feb '25

26 Feb '25

Dear All, All from a sudden, I cannot start any browser but Firefox: $ google-chrome [18285:18285:0226/112134.284230:ERROR:secret_portal_key_provider.cc(214)] Retrieved secret is empty. [18285:18285:0226/112134.284477:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(576)] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.portal.Secret.RetrieveSecret: object_path= /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface “org.freedesktop.portal.Secret” on object at path /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop [18285:18285:0226/112134.284494:ERROR:request.cc(97)] Method call failed. Created TensorFlow Lite XNNPACK delegate for CPU. Attempting to use a delegate that only supports static-sized tensors with a graph that has dynamic-sized tensors (tensor#-1 is a dynamic-sized tensor). [18285:18312:0226/112140.323300:ERROR:registration_request.cc(291)] Registration response error message: DEPRECATED_ENDPOINT Could you please help me? Thanks in advance, Paul

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default kernel NOT the latest one installed ?
by lejeczek 26 Feb '25

26 Feb '25

Hi guys. Some while I go my Fedora lost, dropped it's way to set newly installed kernel to be the default one. Whatever I set manually to be default, remains default regardless of new kernels installed later - which was not the case, should not be the case, right? How to "fix" it back to "normal" ? I fiddle with some GRUB settings & info I found on the net - but to no avail - one reservation, a caveat perhaps, I have kernel-debug installed & I wonder if that "messes" things up. many thanks, L.

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redirect remote rsyslog messages to journal
by fedora＠eyal.emu.id.au 26 Feb '25

26 Feb '25

I have a server (e7) and a remote machine (xilinx). Remote log messages are sent to port 514 and accepted by the server. I can see them in the relevant log files (messages, cron etc.) in /etc/rsyslog.conf I have module(load="imudp") input(type="imudp" port="514") module(load="imtcp") input(type="imtcp" port="514") So the remote messages are processed same as the local ones. syslog shows: Feb 22 10:38:10 xilinx systemd[1]: Starting Stop ureadahead data collection... Feb 22 10:38:10 xilinx systemd[1]: Started Stop ureadahead data collection. However I do not see the remote messages in the journal (or maybe I am not using the correct journalctl command?). I tried using the following, hoping it will output to the journal: module(load="omjournal") ruleset(name="remote") { action(type="omjournal") } input(type="imtcp" port="514" ruleset="remote") and I could now see the messages in the journal BUT they do not include the correct source hostname: 2025-02-22T10:39:57+11:00 e7.eyal.emu.id.au systemd[1]:[2445734]: Starting Update APT News... I want 2025-02-22T10:39:57+11:00 xilinx systemd[1]: Starting Update APT News... 'e7.eyal.emu.id.au [2445734]' is the hostname and pid of the rsyslogd service on the SERVER. In /var/log/syslog I see these message: Without ruleset (correct hostname service[pid[): Feb 22 10:38:10 xilinx systemd[1]: Starting Stop ureadahead data collection... Feb 22 10:38:10 xilinx systemd[1]: Started Stop ureadahead data collection. With ruleset (incorrect hostname): Feb 22 10:39:57 e7 systemd[1]:[2445734]: Starting Update APT News... Same line on xilinx syslog is Feb 22 10:39:57 xilinx systemd[1]: Starting Update APT News... I want both the syslog and the journal to at least identify the source hostname correctly, in syslog and in the journal. TIA -- Eyal at Home (fedora(a)eyal.emu.id.au)

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F41 - df command showing lots of tmpfs
by Robert Moskowitz 25 Feb '25

25 Feb '25

I use df command to see where I am on disk utilization. Well this time it won't be much of an issue, as I got a 1TB SSD for the same price I last got a 500GB. but anyway. Some 10 tmpfs mounts in /run/credentials that I really don't want to be bothered seeing. I am trying to figure out how to use the exclude type option, but I have not figured it out, nor is google giving me guidance.... thanks

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installing F41 - qemu?
by Robert Moskowitz 25 Feb '25

25 Feb '25

I am finally upgrading from my F38 system. I do a clean install on another system, then migrate my user account. So I am moving along OK with the install and am now up to my use of qemu and virt-manager: dnf groupinstall "virtualization" dnf install qemu virt-manager libvirt Well first it is now dnf5-group, it seems. OK. But "virtualization" is not in the list of groups. Just install these packages? Or what else is needed? On past updates, I just copy my old images to the new system and get them running.. thanks

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rsync problems after update
by Jon LaBadie 25 Feb '25

25 Feb '25

On Fedora 40: For years I've nightly updated copies of three home directories using rsync. In yesterday's update, rsync updated to 3.4.0-1 and the nightly run failed on all three directories with the following error message: sending incremental file list Internal hashtable error: illegal key supplied! rsync error: errors with program diagnostics (code 13) at \ hashtable.c(88) [generator=3.4.0] Reboot (not done after update) did not change things. I downgraded rsync to 3.2.7-7 and the copy program ran normally. Anyone else seeing problems with rsync 3.4.0-1? -- Jon H. LaBadie jonfu(a)jgcomp.com

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web vulnerability in a fedora asset
by osama emad 25 Feb '25

25 Feb '25

i believe i found an xss in an asset owned by fedora, how to report that ?

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Reading a QR code via notebook camera
by Robert Moskowitz 25 Feb '25

25 Feb '25

Professor Google told me to just use zbarimg: zbarimg --raw /dev/video0 But I get: ERROR: Unable to open file (/dev/video0) I tried sudo, but that did not help. recommendations? I do wonder how it will "know" that I have the QR in front of the camera and it is in proper focus... Oh, my QR code has an X.509 CSR in it. zbarimg ca/ca.csr.qr.png QR-Code:-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE REQUEST----- MIHNMIGAAgEAMBsxGTAXBgNVBAMMEDIwMDEwMDMwMDAwMDAwMDUwKjAFBgMrZXAD IQDWAmjmz2StaT5bsFXXxuSMftBwE2CebtAruTWz1qz1PqAyMDAGCSqGSIb3DQEJ DjEjMCEwDwYDVR0TAQH/BAUwAwEB/zAOBgNVHQ8BAf8EBAMCAgQwBQYDK2VwA0EA ZVb+wQH2OEVug+5FFFgMGodzer/bx5R0UbiEbLosmgUvsxXKfmt7ULLD5WJ0X4x4 4/9ufAlAUJml9feSMSq3Dw== -----END CERTIFICATE REQUEST----- scanned 1 barcode symbols from 1 images in 0.33 seconds

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11 year old server!
by ToddAndMargo 25 Feb '25

25 Feb '25

Hi All, I just visited a customer I had designed a Fedora 30 server. That makes the computer eleven years old! I do not dare upgrade or even install updates it as the point-of-sale software he is running a YUGE nasty K-L-U-G-E. The server is works well still. He does not want to go with a new software vendor that has good support. He will only do it when thing come down around his ears. I told the customer he was pushing it. Your thoughts? -T

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Re: configuring 2-speed
by Geoffrey Leach 24 Feb '25

24 Feb '25

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:20:14 -0500 Jon LaBadie <jon(a)labadie.us> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 01:35:54PM -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > >I've been using Starlink configured for a single-band 5GHz Wi-Fi > >connection with success for some time. I decided to try the dual-band > >configuration, that is to create a Wi-Fi network operating at > >2.4GHz, so as to replace the modem that has been connecting to a > >2.4GHz printer. > > > >The configuration appears have been successful, as I'm able to > >connect to the internet using the 2.4GHz band. However, I'm unable > >to connect to the printer.. (Ping fails) > > > >Any suggestions as to what I've missed? > > Might the printer need its configuration/settings changed > to connect to the new network? Here's the problem traceroute pvr traceroute to pvr (10.0.0.5), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 _gateway (192.168.2.1) 20.167 ms 20.130 ms 20.122 ms 2 .... (pvr is another box, configured for the same local net) So, the route leaves the local net and wanders off into the ether.. So is there a local fix, or did I got what I asked for, just not what I wanted.

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configuring 2-speed
by Geoffrey Leach 24 Feb '25

24 Feb '25

I've been using Starlink configured for a single-band 5GHz Wi-Fi connection with success for some time. I decided to try the dual-band configuration, that is to create a Wi-Fi network operating at 2.4GHz, so as to replace the modem that has been connecting to a 2.4GHz printer. The configuration appears have been successful, as I'm able to connect to the internet using the 2.4GHz band. However, I'm unable to connect to the printer.. (Ping fails) Any suggestions as to what I've missed? Thanks.

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$MYVIMDIR
by Patrick Dupre 23 Feb '25

23 Feb '25

Hello, A $MYVIMDIR directory has been created in my hierarchy. It seems a duplicate of / !! root is the owver. Can I just remove it? Thanks =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com ===========================================================================

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off-topic (maybe) Firefox: stop trying HTTPS without asking me
by Tim 22 Feb '25

22 Feb '25

Hi, Just thought I'd try asking here, because I'm not having much luck with Google... Many times, way too many damn times, if I try to access some address with Firefox it will go into HTTPS mode when I don't want it to. For instance, I've actually typed http://192.168.1.254 to get into my router's admin page, because it doesn't do HTTPS. And if Firefox doesn't get instant results with what I typed it changes it to https://192.168.1.254 (which is never going to work). Likewise with other devices that I might be testing on my LAN, and may be unplugged/reset while I'm testing, so I want to just hammer away at the same address sitting in the browser's address bar without the damn browser changing it on me. Grrrrrrrr, I hate autocorrect style of crap everywhere they put it. The HTTPS-only modes are disabled. Stupid option that is. Many things do NOT have HTTPS. Most things don't need it. It just increases workload to encrypt unimportant things. And I wish they'd stop hiding HTTP and HTTPS in the address bar. Let me see the letters there so I know what it's doing. Does anybody have any answers about how to force the browser to stop doing that, always, every time, never disobey me? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.

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[OT] help understanding a PCRE expression (CORRECTION)
by Mike Wright 21 Feb '25

21 Feb '25

Hey everybody, Reading an article about a fedora kernel vulnerability regression and found this PCRE expression '(<= )\w+' <--- mistake '(?<= )\w+' <--- actual expression I got the "one or more words" part but what is the meaning of the part inside the parens? Thanks

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In the market for a low cost, small Lenovo Thinkpad
by Robert Moskowitz 21 Feb '25

21 Feb '25

I have 2 Lenovo x140e with 16Gb mem for my main Fedora systems (and one more for Win10). The 11" screen is VERY important to be able to work comfortably on an airplane. I HAD 3 Lenovo x120e with 4Gb for testing and special purposes. 2 died recently (fan failures after only some 10+ years running!) and I need to replace them. I see one ebay ad for an x131e. Is this comparable? Anything else to consider? I like Thinkpads as the eraserhead pointer is very valuable; I don't like touch pads. Thanks!

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[OT] help understanding a PCRE expression
by Mike Wright 21 Feb '25

21 Feb '25

Hey everybody, Reading an article about a fedora kernel vulnerability regression and found this PCRE expression '(<= )\w+' I got the "one or more words" part but what is the meaning of the part inside the parens? Thanks

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php-fpm refuses to start
by François Patte 19 Feb '25

19 Feb '25

Bonjour, I try to have apache+php running and as far as I can see on fedora help, I have to enable and start php-fpm service. To enable no problem... To start I have some troubles: > Active: failed (Result: exit-code) > Failed to start php-fpm.service - The PHP FastCGI Process Maed to start > php-fpm.service - The PHP FastCGI Process Manager For more information , I have to ask: "journalctl -xeu php-fpm.service" OK, but: <cite> php-fpm.service: Failed with result 'exit-code' Failed to start php-fpm.service - The PHP FastCGI Process Maed to start php-fpm.service - The PHP FastCGI Process Manager </cite> OK OK but what's new? What caused this fail state? Where can I get more information? -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte

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Sleeping
by Patrick Dupre 18 Feb '25

18 Feb '25

Hello, Does something change since the last update of fedora 40? I have a laptop running applications from itself or/and from ssh. Now it falls to sleep after a few minutes despite that I have org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-timeout 0 org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-ac-type 'suspend' org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-battery-timeout 900 org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power sleep-inactive-battery-type 'suspend' Screen blank is set a 5 mn. Do you have an explanaton? Thanks. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com ===========================================================================

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MATE hidden files question
by ToddAndMargo 17 Feb '25

17 Feb '25

Hi All, I created a qemu-kvm virtual machine from Fedora-MATE_Compiz-Live-x86_64-39-1.5.iso so I could run Lotus Approach, which I wrote my accounting software in 30 years ago, in Win 9.1. Wine 10.x does not run Approach properly. Wine is always two steps forward and three step backward. Anyway, MATE won't let me see hidden files with a lot of File Open on various software, such as Leafpad. I have to open a command shell and cd into the hidden directory to start the program. It is ANNOYING. How do I tell MATE I was to always see hidden files? Many thanks, -T

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How do I clean up MATE open with?
by ToddAndMargo 17 Feb '25

17 Feb '25

Hi All, I created a qemu-kvm virtual machine from Fedora-MATE_Compiz-Live-x86_64-39-1.5.iso so I could run an app in wine 9.1. How do I clean up my MATE "Open With"? Here is what it looks like: https://ibb.co/jPv3SjCv Many thanks, -T

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vnc
by Patrick Dupre 16 Feb '25

16 Feb '25

Dear all, Trying to run remina, I follows https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f40/system-administrators-guide… On the server I edited /etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service and set ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l pdupre -c "/usr/bin/vncserver %i -geometry 1280x1024" PIDFile=/home/pdupre/.vnc/%H%i.pid systemctl daemon-reload vncpasswd systemctl start vncserver@:2.service ==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.systemd1.manage-units ==== Authentication is required to start 'vncserver@:2.service'. Authenticating as: Patrick Dupre (pdupre) Password: ==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ==== but systemctl status vncserver@:2.service × vncserver@:2.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service; enabled; preset: disabled) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2025-02-16 11:09:32 CET; 39s ago Duration: 174ms Process: 1151698 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill :2 > /dev/null 2>&1 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 1151700 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l pdupre -c /usr/bin/vncserver :2 -geometry 1280x1024 (code=exited, status=98) Main PID: 1151700 (code=exited, status=98) CPU: 18ms Feb 16 11:09:32 homere systemd[1]: Starting vncserver@:2.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)... Feb 16 11:09:32 homere systemd[1]: Started vncserver@:2.service - Remote desktop service (VNC). Feb 16 11:09:32 homere systemd[1]: vncserver@:2.service: Can't convert PID files /home/pdupre/.vnc/homere:2.pid O_PATH file descriptor to proper file descriptor: Permission denied Feb 16 11:09:32 homere systemd[1]: vncserver@:2.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=98/n/a Feb 16 11:09:32 homere systemd[1]: vncserver@:2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. If I comment #PIDFile=/home/pdupre/.vnc/%H%i.pid I get systemctl status vncserver@:2.service × vncserver@:2.service - Remote desktop service (VNC) Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vncserver@.service; enabled; preset: disabled) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2025-02-16 11:13:37 CET; 8s ago Duration: 166ms Process: 1153640 ExecStartPre=/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/vncserver -kill :2 > /dev/null 2>&1 || : (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Process: 1153642 ExecStart=/sbin/runuser -l pdupre -c /usr/bin/vncserver :2 -geometry 1280x1024 (code=exited, status=98) Main PID: 1153642 (code=exited, status=98) CPU: 18ms Feb 16 11:13:37 homere systemd[1]: Starting vncserver@:2.service - Remote desktop service (VNC)... Feb 16 11:13:37 homere systemd[1]: Started vncserver@:2.service - Remote desktop service (VNC). Feb 16 11:13:37 homere systemd[1]: vncserver@:2.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=98/n/a Feb 16 11:13:37 homere systemd[1]: vncserver@:2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. Any I get vncviewer homere:2 failed to connect to "homere:2" unable to connect to socket: cooecntion refused Sun Feb 16 11:23:36 2025 DecodeManager: Detected 4 CPU core(s) DecodeManager: Creating 4 decoder thread(s) CConn: unable to connect to socket: Connection refused (111) DecodeManager: Total: 0 rects, 0 pixels DecodeManager: 0 B (1:-nan ratio) The ssh connection work Thank for your help. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com ===========================================================================

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[Fedora 42] WSL Test Day 2025-02-17
by Sumantro Mukherjee 16 Feb '25

16 Feb '25

Hey All, In Fedora 42, a new image is being built for use with the Windows Subsystem for Linux (commonly referred to as WSL). This will allow users to have a simple, easy-to-setup Fedora environment for development and testing. The test day is targeted at testing the usage of the WSL image of Fedora Linux, find any bugs/regression and report them. The wiki[0] has relevant details for testers and users. The results can be submitted on test days application[1]. Happy Testing! [0]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2025-02-17_WSL [1]https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/209 -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED <https://redhat.com/trusted>

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thunderbird problem
by fedora＠eyal.emu.id.au 13 Feb '25

13 Feb '25

I am on f40 and regularly keeping up with updates. $ uname -a Linux e7.eyal.emu.id.au 6.12.11-100.fc40.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jan 23 22:07:15 UTC 2025 x86_64 GNU/Linux TB is 128.6.0esr (64-bit) Short story: TB stays active with high %CPU in "top". I start TB. Fetch mail (POP3). So far so good. After a few times I do "Compact Folders". The messages go though a few folders and then say it is done. However, the blue line at the bottom right stays solid blue and "top" shows about 60-70% CPU. This is with the focus and the mouse are NOT on TB. I later collect mail and that line goes wavy and stays so after mail is collected. Usually forever. I once left it overnight... The only solution is to restart TB. Not nice. How do I find what TB is actually doing? BTW: - I removed all the .msf files, which were then recreated when I did a global search. - I vacuumed the sql databases for this profile. -- Eyal at Home (fedora(a)eyal.emu.id.au)

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I need PDF editor recommendations
by ToddAndMargo 12 Feb '25

12 Feb '25

Hi All, Fedora 41. I have tried both PDF Studio and Master PDF Editor. PDF Studio does not support RPM and has bad tech support Master PDF Editor supports RPM, has responsive tech support, although they are not real helpful at times, and has all kinds of print problems, such as not supporting duel sided printing (it is there but does not work, despite their promises to fix it) and the print preview does not match the actual print. Only Office supports RPM and does print correctly, but it is awkward to use and has ton of bugs. Libre Office supports RPM but is bug city on PDF's (Draw) You guy know of a good PDF editor that you like? Many thanks, -T

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Does Red Hat have any plans for Win 10 EOL ?
by Lee Thomas Stephen 12 Feb '25

12 Feb '25

Hi All and RedHatters, Windows 10 is going to be End of Life soon. Canonical is promoting Ubuntu Pro. Does IBM have any plans for Red Hat to take advantage of this opportunity? I post this here as I see many people with @redhat.com frequenting here. Thanks, ----- Lee

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Wayland?
by ToddAndMargo 11 Feb '25

11 Feb '25

Hi All, Fedora 41 I need to test a piece of software in Wayland. I know gnome uses it. Does KDE also use it? Many thanks, -T

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DNF Openjdk Update Issue in F41
by Stephen Morris 11 Feb '25

11 Feb '25

Hi, A "sudo dnf upgrade" produced the following messages twice at the beginning of the update process and again with the trigger scripts. These messages provide instructions for what to do in F42, but what is the solution for F41, or isn't there? Also, what is the dnf 5 logs related message? In addition, what is the meaning of the message "jdk duplicates jre", that doesn't make sense to me? I understand that the jdk includes the jre, but the written message I don't understand? [ 32/605] Upgrading java-17-openjdk-headless-1:17.0.14.0.7-1.fc41.x86_64 100% | 97.7 MiB/s | 183.8 MiB | 00m02s >>> [RPM] /etc/java/java-17-openjdk/java-17-openjdk-17.0.14.0.7-1.fc41.x86_64/lib/security/public_suffix_list.dat created as /etc/java/java-17-openjdk/java-17-openjdk-17.0.14.0.7-1.fc41.x86_64/lib/se >>> Running post-install scriptlet: java-17-openjdk-headless-1:17.0.14.0.7-1.fc41.x86_64 >>> Finished post-install scriptlet: java-17-openjdk-headless-1:17.0.14.0.7-1.fc41.x86_64 >>> Scriptlet output: >>> dnf 5 is printing bash only to logs >>> The java-17-openjdk package is deprecated and may no longer receive updates. Since f42 install adoptium-temurin-java-repository and install temurin-17-jre >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ThirdPartyLegacyJdks#adoptium-temuri… >>> It currently lacks rpm-based debuginfo, fastdebugs and slowdebugs and headless subpackage. It also lacks offline javadocs and jdk duplicates jre >>> [ regards, Steve

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After F41 waydroid System Update, no longer runs
by Andre Robatino 11 Feb '25

11 Feb '25

After applying a System Update (can't remember if that's the correct term) Waydroid no longer starts, dmesg is filled with constant messages like [ 3427.920971] binder: 6467:6323 cannot find target node [ 3427.920984] binder: 6323:6467 transaction call to 0:0 failed 5324/29189/-22, size 0-0 line 3151 [ 3428.718964] binder: 952:952 cannot find target node [ 3428.718977] binder: 952:952 transaction call to 0:0 failed 5325/29189/-22, size 0-0 line 3151 [ 3431.721986] binder_debug: 10 callbacks suppressed [ 3431.721992] binder: 952:952 cannot find target node [ 3431.722001] binder: 952:952 transaction call to 0:0 failed 5331/29189/-22, size 0-0 line 3151 [ 3431.925081] binder: 6467:6323 cannot find target node [ 3431.925092] binder: 6323:6467 transaction call to 0:0 failed 5332/29189/-22, size 0-0 line 3151 Rebooting didn't help. Any ideas? I'm not sure if this is even a Waydroid bug since it wasn't an update in the waydroid package that triggered it.

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KDE and rumors
by ToddAndMargo 10 Feb '25

10 Feb '25

Hi All, I just tested a program to see how it would react to the Wayland only environment of KDE. From what little I saw of KDE, I could not help but notice that KDE is really polished. It would be a good choice for moderate and above users. MATE is still the best choice for low skill user. I heard a rumor that Fedora may be switching over to KDE. Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor? My vote is that it would be a good thing. Gnome is too weird for me. -T

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Make --show-new-leaves default in dnf5?
by Ian Pilcher 09 Feb '25

09 Feb '25

Does anyone know of a way to to $SUBJECT? I've looked through the man pages, but I didn't see anything obvious. -- ======================================================================== If your user interface is intuitive in retrospect ... it isn't intuitive ========================================================================

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sound problem on f40
by François Patte 09 Feb '25

09 Feb '25

Bonjour, I have some sound problems on my f40: 1- sound works with some applications like audacious or vlc or kaffeine but it does not work from sources via firefox or chromium 2- I have an usb camera with a mic and this mic is not detected by skype for instance... All this was working "before" (sound-web, mic) what stupidity could I have done? And how can I correct this? Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte

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Installing NVIDIA drivers killed wireless...
by Bill Oliver 06 Feb '25

06 Feb '25

I have an ASUS ROG Strix laptop running Fedora 41, KDE spin. It was working OK, though there were some screen issues. So, I installed akmod-nvidia from rpmfusion. All the screen issues cleared up, but I lost wireless networking. There's no wireless device, it seems. The networking widget just says no network connections available. I tried pluggin in a Realtek usb wireless adapter, but it wouldn't work either. In /var/log/messages, the USB adapter is recognized as a Realtek device, but that's about it. I grepped /var/log/messages for NetworkManager, and I find that it says it loaded with "success." Is this a known issue with a simple solution, or do I have to reinstall and stick with the nouveau drivers? As an aside, I have blacklisted the nouveau driver. Any help would be appreciated. thanks, billo

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google chrome signing key failure today:
by Neal Becker 05 Feb '25

05 Feb '25

Importing OpenPGP key 0x7FAC5991: UserID : "Google, Inc. Linux Package Signing Key < linux-packages-keymaster(a)google.com>" Fingerprint: 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 From : https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub Is this ok [y/N]: y The key was successfully imported. Importing OpenPGP key 0xD38B4796: UserID : "Google Inc. (Linux Packages Signing Authority) < linux-packages-keymaster(a)google.com>" Fingerprint: EB4C1BFD4F042F6DDDCCEC917721F63BD38B4796 From : https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub Is this ok [y/N]: y The key was successfully imported. Transaction failed: Signature verification failed. OpenPGP check for package "google-chrome-stable-133.0.6943.53-1.x86_64" (/var/cache/libdnf5/google-chrome-beta-6ed7e4f336f6863c/packages/goo gle-chrome-stable-133.0.6943.53-1.x86_64.rpm) from repo "google-chrome-beta" has failed: Import of the key didn't help, wrong key? nbecker@nbecker0:~$ *Those who don't understand recursion are doomed to repeat it*

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Which package to file a bug against for the Live ISO?
by Jeffrey Walton 04 Feb '25

04 Feb '25

Hi Everyone, I screwed up an install on a GPT system. I booted back into the LiveCD and tried to use gdisk (the GPT equivalent of fdisk). gdisk was missing from the ISO. I'd like to file a bug for the missing package, but I don't know which package is used for the Live ISO. Which package should I file a bug against for the Live ISO? Thanks in advance.

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Update failure in Fedora 40
by Robert Nichols 03 Feb '25

03 Feb '25

I am trying to upgrade my laptop to Fedora 41, but I cannot get a clean update state in the current Fedora 40. I ran "dnf update" successfully and it installed many updates including a new kernel. After a reboot, much to my surprise dnfdragora reported 18 updates available. Running "dnf update" again resulted in installation of most of these, but also reported: Problem 1: package qgnomeplatform-qt5-0.9.2-18.fc40.x86_64 from @System requires qgnomeplatform-common = 0.9.2-18.fc40, but none of the providers can be installed - package qt6-qtbase-common-6.8.1-11.fc40.noarch from updates obsoletes qgnomeplatform-common <= 0.9.3 provided by qgnomeplatform-common-0.9.2-18.fc40.noarch from @System - package qt6-qtbase-common-6.8.1-11.fc40.noarch from updates obsoletes qgnomeplatform-common <= 0.9.3 provided by qgnomeplatform-common-0.9.2-18.fc40.noarch from updates - cannot install the best update candidate for package qgnomeplatform-qt5-0.9.2-18.fc40.x86_64 - cannot install the best update candidate for package qgnomeplatform-common-0.9.2-18.fc40.noarch Problem 2: problem with installed package qgnomeplatform-qt5-0.9.2-18.fc40.x86_64 - package qgnomeplatform-qt5-0.9.2-18.fc40.x86_64 from @System requires qgnomeplatform-common = 0.9.2-18.fc40, but none of the providers can be installed - package qgnomeplatform-qt5-0.9.2-18.fc40.x86_64 from updates requires qgnomeplatform-common = 0.9.2-18.fc40, but none of the providers can be installed - package qt6-qtbase-common-6.8.1-11.fc40.noarch from updates obsoletes qgnomeplatform-common <= 0.9.3 provided by qgnomeplatform-common-0.9.2-18.fc40.noarch from @System - package qt6-qtbase-common-6.8.1-11.fc40.noarch from updates obsoletes qgnomeplatform-common <= 0.9.3 provided by qgnomeplatform-common-0.9.2-18.fc40.noarch from updates - cannot install the best update candidate for package qt6-qtbase-common-6.7.2-6.fc40.noarch I have tried "dnf update --allowerasing", "dnf update --obsoletes", and even "dnf autoremove", but nothing gets rid of these problems. I have made no changes to any of the config files in fedora-repos-40-2.noarch. I am very reluctant to attempt an upgrade to Fedora 41 with the system not in a cleanly updated state. What to do?? -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it.

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