From temlakos@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:34 2015 From: Temlakos To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Fox News Channels videos won't play Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:49:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4BB352E7.5030608@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5096827312833099256==" --===============5096827312833099256== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've come back to this issue of the Fox News Channel videos not wanting=20 to play, because perhaps I have some more information that might provide=20 a clue. Fox News Channel hosts a number of videos, and provides an embedding=20 link to each one. About an hour ago, I went to find one. When my Fedora=20 12/Firefox 3.5.8 setup wouldn't play nice, I went to another machine=20 that had Windows XP on it. I was able to play the video there, and to=20 get the embedding script. I got it and pasted it into an article I wrote. And when I went to display my article, guess what? The video wouldn't play. Here is the link to the article I wrote, that has the embedded video: Here is the embedding URL I used: >>> >>> And now: here is what that script embed.js contains: >>> >>> if(document.domain.indexOf('rightscoop')< 0) { document.write(''); } >>> >>> And that's it. >>> >>> >> [snip] >> >> Played fine here, Firefox 3.6.2, >> >> >>> Shockwave Flash >>> >>> File: libflashplayer.so >>> Version: >>> Shockwave Flash 10.1 d51 >>> >> Time to update your browser. >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> >> >> > > Then you recommend abandoning the Fedora build and going directly to > Mozilla for their latest RPM? > > And the same with Flash? I'm using "R45"; you have "D51." > > Temlakos Well, I see from other replies that the Fedora build will play these=20 videos properly, so, NO I would not recommend going directly to Mozilla=20 for their browser. I'm not sure where the Flash came from, probably=20 Adobe's website. I enjoy "breaking" my system, so I often run non-fedora releases of=20 stuff. The Mozilla version of Firefox didn't run correctly=20 out-of-the-box on my (F11) system. To make it work I had to set the=20 environment with "export CANBERRA_DRIVER=3Dnull" before running Firefox. I installed Firefox in my home directory (/home/john/firefox) and kept=20 the Fedora version. Regards, John --===============6308048901829302251==-- From agajan@pobox.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:45 2015 From: "Aram J. Agajanian" To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:23:31 -0400 Message-ID: <20100401212331.1dad1161@pc01> In-Reply-To: <4BB352E7.5030608@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2288736273942450238==" --===============2288736273942450238== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:49:27 -0400 Temlakos wrote: > I've come back to this issue of the Fox News Channel videos not > wanting to play, because perhaps I have some more information that > might provide a clue. > > Fox News Channel hosts a number of videos, and provides an embedding > link to each one. About an hour ago, I went to find one. When my > Fedora 12/Firefox 3.5.8 setup wouldn't play nice, I went to another > machine that had Windows XP on it. I was able to play the video > there, and to get the embedding script. I got it and pasted it into > an article I wrote. > > And when I went to display my article, guess what? The video wouldn't > play. > I am using flash 10.0.45.2 (64 bit) and Fedora 11 (with Firefox 3.5.9). Fox News videos wouldn't play until I uninstalled nspluginwrapper.x86_64. --===============2288736273942450238==-- From temlakos@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:46 2015 From: Temlakos To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:22:57 -0400 Message-ID: <4BB55501.6060401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20100401212331.1dad1161@pc01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8399536743097036110==" --===============8399536743097036110== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/01/2010 09:23 PM, Aram J. Agajanian wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:49:27 -0400 > Temlakos wrote: > > >> I've come back to this issue of the Fox News Channel videos not >> wanting to play, because perhaps I have some more information that >> might provide a clue. >> >> Fox News Channel hosts a number of videos, and provides an embedding >> link to each one. About an hour ago, I went to find one. When my >> Fedora 12/Firefox 3.5.8 setup wouldn't play nice, I went to another >> machine that had Windows XP on it. I was able to play the video >> there, and to get the embedding script. I got it and pasted it into >> an article I wrote. >> >> And when I went to display my article, guess what? The video wouldn't >> play. >> >> > I am using flash 10.0.45.2 (64 bit) and Fedora 11 (with Firefox 3.5.9). > > Fox News videos wouldn't play until I uninstalled > nspluginwrapper.x86_64. > And how did you do that? Temlakos --===============8399536743097036110==-- From chriswfedora@cawllc.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:48 2015 From: Christopher A Williams To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:31:06 -0600 Message-ID: <1270215066.10327.47.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4BB55501.6060401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1391016761236503761==" --===============1391016761236503761== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 22:22 -0400, Temlakos wrote: > On 04/01/2010 09:23 PM, Aram J. Agajanian wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:49:27 -0400 > > Temlakos wrote: > > > > > >> I've come back to this issue of the Fox News Channel videos not > >> wanting to play, because perhaps I have some more information that > >> might provide a clue. > >> > >> Fox News Channel hosts a number of videos, and provides an embedding > >> link to each one. About an hour ago, I went to find one. When my > >> Fedora 12/Firefox 3.5.8 setup wouldn't play nice, I went to another > >> machine that had Windows XP on it. I was able to play the video > >> there, and to get the embedding script. I got it and pasted it into > >> an article I wrote. > >> > >> And when I went to display my article, guess what? The video wouldn't > >> play. > >> > >> > > I am using flash 10.0.45.2 (64 bit) and Fedora 11 (with Firefox 3.5.9). > > > > Fox News videos wouldn't play until I uninstalled > > nspluginwrapper.x86_64. > > > And how did you do that? Confirmed on my system. Running F12 x86_64 with FF 3.6.2 (latest from Remi's repository). Uninstalling nspluginwrapper allows the Flash object on Fox News Website to play without issue. Command to uninstall nspluginwrapper is: rpm -e nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-10.fc12.x86_64 Re-installing nspluginwrapper causes the 64-bit Flash player to fail. I suggest we open a BZ against the 64-bit version of nspluginwrapper as it is attempting to "wrap" 64-bit plugins such as Flash-64 in a way that is causing them to fail when called with certain scripts. This also might point to why the 32-bit Adobe Reader plugin fails to load in F12 x86_64... Cheers, Chris -- ============================= "You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'" -- George Bernard Shaw --===============1391016761236503761==-- From temlakos@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:48 2015 From: Temlakos To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play--SOLVED Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:40:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4BB601EA.30204@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1270215066.10327.47.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6048736843134837645==" --===============6048736843134837645== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/02/2010 09:31 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 22:22 -0400, Temlakos wrote: > >> On 04/01/2010 09:23 PM, Aram J. Agajanian wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:49:27 -0400 >>> Temlakos wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I've come back to this issue of the Fox News Channel videos not >>>> wanting to play, because perhaps I have some more information that >>>> might provide a clue. >>>> >>>> Fox News Channel hosts a number of videos, and provides an embedding >>>> link to each one. About an hour ago, I went to find one. When my >>>> Fedora 12/Firefox 3.5.8 setup wouldn't play nice, I went to another >>>> machine that had Windows XP on it. I was able to play the video >>>> there, and to get the embedding script. I got it and pasted it into >>>> an article I wrote. >>>> >>>> And when I went to display my article, guess what? The video wouldn't >>>> play. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I am using flash 10.0.45.2 (64 bit) and Fedora 11 (with Firefox 3.5.9). >>> >>> Fox News videos wouldn't play until I uninstalled >>> nspluginwrapper.x86_64. >>> >>> >> And how did you do that? >> > > Confirmed on my system. Running F12 x86_64 with FF 3.6.2 (latest from > Remi's repository). Uninstalling nspluginwrapper allows the Flash object > on Fox News Website to play without issue. > > Command to uninstall nspluginwrapper is: > rpm -e nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-10.fc12.x86_64 > > Re-installing nspluginwrapper causes the 64-bit Flash player to fail. > > I suggest we open a BZ against the 64-bit version of nspluginwrapper as > it is attempting to "wrap" 64-bit plugins such as Flash-64 in a way that > is causing them to fail when called with certain scripts. This also > might point to why the 32-bit Adobe Reader plugin fails to load in F12 > x86_64... > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > Thanks for the tip. Now for everyone's information, I removed nspluginwrapper from my installed base of RPMs, using my particular package manager, which happens to be Smart. Then I reloaded Firefox and went back to that page I built, with the embedded video from Fox News Channel. And this time, it played. Chris, may I suggest that the problem is a bit wider than the 64-bit version. The 32-bit version does the same. My plugins were all using "nswrapper-32-32." Now, without nspluginwrapper, they're all back to their native .so files. So: /all/ version of nspluginwrapper cause problems for videos called with certain scripts. You can't even get the embedding code with nspluginwrapper in place. Temlakos --===============6048736843134837645==-- From horsley1953@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:48 2015 From: Tom Horsley To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play--SOLVED Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:10:51 -0400 Message-ID: <20100402111051.54db368c@tomh.ccur.com> In-Reply-To: <4BB601EA.30204@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1837492270720875341==" --===============1837492270720875341== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:40:42 -0400 Temlakos wrote: > So: /all/ version of nspluginwrapper cause problems for videos called > with certain scripts. You can't even get the embedding code with > nspluginwrapper in place. It isn't just videos. One of my credit cards has some silly flash app for generating temporary credit card numbers, and for many years, it wouldn't run with the wrapper. I had to go to a lot of trouble to run a 32 bit firefox with no wrapper when I wanted to generate a credit card number for mail order. I think recent versions have started working OK with the wrapper, but I have no idea what changed. --===============1837492270720875341==-- From chriswfedora@cawllc.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:48 2015 From: Christopher A Williams To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play--SOLVED Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:44:06 -0600 Message-ID: <1270223046.10327.50.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20100402111051.54db368c@tomh.ccur.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5589839238344445478==" --===============5589839238344445478== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 11:10 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:40:42 -0400 > Temlakos wrote: > > > So: /all/ version of nspluginwrapper cause problems for videos called > > with certain scripts. You can't even get the embedding code with > > nspluginwrapper in place. > > It isn't just videos. One of my credit cards has some silly > flash app for generating temporary credit card numbers, and > for many years, it wouldn't run with the wrapper. I had to > go to a lot of trouble to run a 32 bit firefox with no > wrapper when I wanted to generate a credit card number for > mail order. I think recent versions have started working > OK with the wrapper, but I have no idea what changed. OK - Good to know. I tried to compile together all of the high points from this thread into a BZ, which I just opened against nspluginwrapper. BZ Number: 579092 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579092 Please feel free to review and add any information you think is pertinent. Cheers, Chris -- ============================= "You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'" -- George Bernard Shaw --===============5589839238344445478==-- From luckysharma11@gmail.com Fri Jun 5 20:22:51 2015 From: Sawrub To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Fox News Channels videos won't play--SOLVED Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 09:41:33 +0530 Message-ID: <4BB6BFF5.7070008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1270223046.10327.50.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6305976607616213805==" --===============6305976607616213805== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/02/2010 09:14 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 11:10 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:40:42 -0400 >> Temlakos wrote: >> >> >>> So: /all/ version of nspluginwrapper cause problems for videos called >>> with certain scripts. You can't even get the embedding code with >>> nspluginwrapper in place. >>> >> It isn't just videos. One of my credit cards has some silly >> flash app for generating temporary credit card numbers, and >> for many years, it wouldn't run with the wrapper. I had to >> go to a lot of trouble to run a 32 bit firefox with no >> wrapper when I wanted to generate a credit card number for >> mail order. I think recent versions have started working >> OK with the wrapper, but I have no idea what changed. >> > > OK - Good to know. I tried to compile together all of the high points > from this thread into a BZ, which I just opened against nspluginwrapper. > > BZ Number: 579092 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579092 > > Please feel free to review and add any information you think is > pertinent. > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > -- > ============================= > "You see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' > I dream things as they never were and ask, 'Why not?'" > > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > Worked for me too...un-installed the wrapper and restarted FF. -- Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors.......It's time to look beyond Windows --===============6305976607616213805==--