----- Original Message -----
From: "Radek Holy" <rholy(a)redhat.com>
To: "Community support for Fedora users" <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:01:24 AM
Subject: Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Yorston" <rmy(a)frippery.org>
> To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:20:11 PM
> Subject: Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
>
> Suvayu Ali wrote:
> >That said, I sometimes do not understand what's the harm in getting
> >updates few hours later. dnf already tells you how old the metadata is
> >when it starts, you can choose to get the latest metadata if it is too
> >old. So what's the big deal?
>
> I certainly get the impression that dnf tells me about updates less
> frequently than yum did. It also seems to pull in metadata less
> frequently.
>
> In fedora-updates.repo I have: metadata_expire=6h. I also have the
> dnf-makecache.timer 'masked'.
>
> It's more than 6 hours since I last ran dnf but:
>
> [root@vulcan rmyf22]# dnf check-update
> Fedora 22 - x86_64 - RMY repository 131 kB/s | 6.0 kB 00:00
> Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Wed Jul 22 08:38:32
> 2015.
> [root@vulcan rmyf22]#
>
> No updates. It pulled in metadata for my private repo but not
> fedora-updates. So is it really telling me "how old the metadata is"?
> The message just refers to the last time an expiration check was
> performed. Does that mean the metadata was up to date as of 0:00:00 ago?
> Because, as we shall see, it clearly wasn't.
No, precisely, it tells you the maximum of all timestamps of caches of all
repositories. I mean, if the cache of "fedora" is 3 hours old, the cache of
"updates" is 2 hours old and the cache of "updates-testing" is 1 hour
old,
the output is 1 hour.
To see all the timestamps, you should use "--debug". Maybe you can help us by
filling an RFE with a suggestion of a better message?
I mean "--verbose", sorry.
> Let's try the --refresh option:
>
> [root@vulcan rmyf22]# dnf --refresh check-update
> Fedora 22 - x86_64 - RMY repository 113 kB/s | 6.0 kB 00:00
> Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:00 ago on Wed Jul 22 08:39:01
> 2015.
> [root@vulcan rmyf22]#
>
> Still no updates. Time for a bigger hammer (don't try this at home or
> offer it as advice to newbies):
>
> [root@vulcan rmyf22]# rm -rf /var/cache/dnf/x86_64/22/updates*
> [root@vulcan rmyf22]# dnf check-update
> Fedora 22 - x86_64 - Updates 774 kB/s | 12 MB 00:16
> Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:16 ago on Wed Jul 22 08:40:02
> 2015.
>
> environment-modules.x86_64 3.2.10-16.fc22
> updates
> ...
>
> Plus 55 other updates. What's going on?
>
> Ron
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Radek Holý
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Radek Holý
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Software Management Team
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