On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 18:47:37 -0700 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/25/24 17:31, Franta Hanzlík wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 14:48:23 -0700 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 3/25/24 11:52, Franta Hanzlík via users wrote:
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What do you mean by "system-wide"? I use it for site to site VPN.
System-wide should be connections, which are not user-dependent (i.e. connections, which starts immediately after system boot up. - as typical for servers). Unlike user connections, which are activated only after the user logs in. And what I saw somewhere was that VPN connections can only be of the second kind - user initiated. But maybe it was some old information and now system-wide VPN connection is now also possible? I confess that I hardly know the NetworkManager, or only its graphical interface...
Even wifi connections are "system-wide" connections. And whatever information you had about VPNs is very old. I've used NM for that for a long time.
Really? Especially with WiFi connections, I thought they were in some user private profiles, for use only by a specific user... Hmm... I seem to be behind the times. ;)
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Right, don't use network-scripts. Use "nm-connection-editor" for creating the PPPoE connection. I think upgrading to F39 would have converted all your ifcfg files to NetworkManager connection files anyway.
I have always preferred network-scripts over NetworkManager on the server, for its reliability and stability. And why should a useless program run on the server when I only need to activate the interface at startup and then nothing else? (a few (10?) years back I had an unpleasant experience with the NetworkManager when, after restarting a remote multihome server, it set the routing so badly that the machine became unreachable. Is it time to trust him again?).
I've been using it for a long time on a remote many-homed server with no issues and it doesn't use enough memory to bother me.
That sounds encouraging, I'll try to get through the NetworkManager - I guess I won't have any other choice...
Samuel, many thanks!