Dan Trainor wrote:
Steven W. Orr wrote:
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- I have a Dell Dimension 4700 at work. The upgrade went fine from
Core 3 to 4. Afterwards, I went to start X and it failed. The xorg.conf file was identical both before and after the upgrade, including after running system-config-display --configure. The fix, after a team of people poured 6 hours into it was to not use the VESA driver that it used before. The correct choice is to use the i810 driver. The writeup for it is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=162699
Alright, I'll give you that one. So you're expecting a completely flawless upgrade? 2/3 success rate is good, regardless of what you're upgrading.
IMO, 2/3 success on upgrade is abysmal. [snip]
Look at this crap that you polluted the email list with. Look how much time you've wasted, yours included. I didn't even bother to read the follow-ups, but I'm sure you've been given this type of lecture dozens of times. And you've replied once.
This is not true. He has replied multple times.
Let's say you get a new car, let's call it a brand new Civic - they're cool, as the kids put it. This Civic comes with 1/2 a tank of gas, factory tires, and no tint. Does this mean you're going to write consumer reports and tell them that it sucks? No. It comes that way because it was configured that way. You had a choice of picking another one, but you didn't. Is there anything wrong with your new Civic? Absolutely not. You're just pissed off because it only has half a tank of gas, factory tires, and no tint.
Not a fair comparison. If he took his new Civic to the dealer to get a cracked windshield fixed, and it came back with a groaning transmission which frequently slipped out of gear, that might be a more apt comparison.
The type of petty complaints and blatant whining you bring, are not welcome here, especially when you do so in such a manner that has you trying to make a particular operating system look bad due simply to your incompetence.
Who set you up as netcop? Do you know what I like or dislike? Please speak only for yourself.
Now, as it turns out, I don't like his tone one bit. But I think his gripes are legitimate.
Constructive troubleshooting by reading logs, doing research, and a clue, however, are very welcome here. There are thousands of people here who have done all of the above, and they're to help. They're not going to help you if you don't take the initiative and do your own homework first.
Sorry to waste all your guys' time on the list for reading this, but I do believe that this is a point worth making.
And your constructive criticism of him was?
Sorry, but I classify your message just as much a rant as his.
Mike