On Wed, 2018-03-28 at 11:43 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As a strictly email client user I hope fewer people will use the HyperKitty interface with these mis-features. :-)
It's feature creep. The unwarranted desire to turn a simple archive page into a full-featured web forum interface, which AFAIK nobody asked for and which doesn't appear to really work.
I don't think that's quite fair. It seems like it works reasonably well to me. Clearly there are folks who use it and while this quoting attribution issue is confusing, there are many folks who post regularly from mail clients that cause as much confusion by poorly quoting and/or using bad html to plain text conversions, etc.
That's true. Of course they shouldn't be posting in HTML in the first place (as per the list Guidelines) but I take your point.
This is a mailing list. It's incomprehensible to me that anyone would want to use a clunky web interface instead of a mail client (even if it's a web email client) for functions which are specific to email.
I can't imagine how anyone uses most mail clients, web and GUI mail clients seem awful to me. But as long as the mail arrives to me in decent form, I don't much care how it got to me. :)
We'll have to agree to differ. I'm reasonably happy with Evolution.
The hyperkitty archiver has definitely improved on several long-standing issues with the previous pipermail archiver.
The front page for the month of March shows the most recent 10 messages with a lot of white space. Compare the Evolution (old-style) list archive:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-March/thread.html
I know which is more useful to me. For one thing the old-style page shows all of March. I can also sort it by Date or by Author. To find (say) messages from around March 25 in HK, I have to click through an unknown number of intermediate pages and even then the dates of messages are not shown unless I open them. There's apparently no way to search for a specific date so I guess I have to do mental arithmetic to figure out how old the message is relative to the present.
If a message ever needs to be removed or otherwise edited in the archive, it no longer invalidates links to all the messages in the archive.
That may be so, in which case it's a plus, but more for the admins than for the users.
And it's now much easier to link to a thread and all the messages in it instead of only to individual messages.
An example of a link to a thread:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-March/msg00087.html
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