On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the
> > > > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings.
> > >
> > > I don't know what Steam is....
> >
> > It's a commercial gaming platform which is supported on Linux. I'm not
> > a big gamer but occasionally I indulge. Unfortunately this means using
> > the Nvidia drivers, at least for the titles I've tried.
> >
> > >
> > > I had to revert to nouveau recently
> > > because the nvidia driver (340-96) is unable to give a correct
> > > configuration if I plug a beamer on the VGA plug of my laptop.
> >
> > My reason for switching to Nouveau originated in randomly not being
> > able to resume from hibernation when using the Nvidia drivers
> > (discussed on another thread). So it seems I can have either Steam or
> > hibernation, but not both.
> >
>
> This sort of trade-off is all too common, occurs across distros, and usually
> requires experimentation by each user to figure out what works for a
> particular use case.   These days distros have converged to the point
> that many bugs affect multiple distros,
>
> In a small fraction of cases, the details show up in a mail list or forum.
> In a small fraction of those cases, someone who really understands
> the issue explains how to get to the root cause of the malfunctions.
> Fedora users in particular should expect to run into problems and
> should be prepared to invest some time digging into the problem
> and documenting the findings.
>
>
> Do you recognize your steam problem at
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#Steam_runtime_issues?

I don't have a problem with Steam. As long as I use the Nvidia drivers
it works perfectly well. My problem is with hibernation. See the thread
starting at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/K3AI2V6AAW3SXYD4WI7AKUVP7HGYQRN5/#NLCYKEWHYTODJPM7QHHUCH22LCEQOWCQ