On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 10:52 +1000, Res wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, M. Fioretti wrote:
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 09:59:03 AM +1000, Res (res@ausics.net) wrote:
Maybe :), but he has a couple things I agree with, RH/Fedora is losing ground on desktop share, because people want things to just work,
"things to just work" and "bleeding edge by design" just cannot mix,
They can, there is no reason at all, lets say a media player software wont, well unless you bastardise it like Fedora does, once you start ommitting parts of the authors original known working code, you no longer have a working guarantee.
What has redhat bastardized? They remove patent problem code from gstreamer-plugins. That code is not even necessary if you disable the plugins at build time.
In this sense yes, Fedora is not, can not, and does not want to be the first distribution for Windows refugees.
Correct, unlike RedHat X.XX days. This is why Fedora has lost a very significant hold of desktop.
There have always been other distros that grabbed marketshare by attracting noobs and then faded. Ubuntu isn't fading as fast as I thought it would, maybe it is here to stay, but Fedora in my experience is a lot nicer than Red Hat was - even for noobs.
Secondly, the version upgrade is messy
Yes it is. I don't do it. It's messy on Windows too. After applying SP2 on my laptop, I could not boot. Had to go into rescue mode. Problem was a virus checker.
Upgrading has horror story scenarios on almost every OS.
This is why /home should be a separate LV by default - to allow for clean installs. Installer should look at the rpm database of the previous install, and as an option, have a clean install where the installer selects whatever packages previously were installed that are available.
Thus - user preserves /home data (and /srv data if that's separate) and gets a clean install similar to their previous configuration.