On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 10:17 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 1:36 AM Tim via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X minutes for no reason whatsoever" setting somewhere, that simply needs to be changed. As Mr. Spock would say: "this is not logical".
Tim:
Although that pretty much describes what I see on a friend's iMac. When you go to shutdown, there's a warning and a countdown before it does. With a button to skip waiting and do it now.
For the purposes of clarity, this is MacOS on a Mac. But just pointing out that computer programmers often do things that don't make much sense (the lack of explanation of why you're waiting).
Back in time, there was only 'shutdown'. And it had a default timeout of 5 minutes to allow the shutdown message to be delivered and seen by all the users so that they could gracefully end their edit sessions, etc. before the machine stopped.
At some point 'halt/halt' and 'reboot' were added.
But 'shutdown' provided all the housekeeping work such as:
- disabling logins
- sending out messages to users screen warning them of the impending
doom
- providing grace time
- unmounted file systems
- killed the system
Same here. However these are reasonable measures on a multi-user system. On a single-user desktop they just get in the way, especially with journal-based filesystems.
poc