Hello, Chitlesh GOORAH,
I am interested in doing PIC development with the one of the following setups:
1. PIKLAB Piklab, gpasm, gpsim, gputils, etc. 2. Ktechlab Ktechlab, gpasm, gpsim, gputils, etc.
The primary devices will be: pic16f887 pic16f690 pic32 (not decided yet)
I know that the 887 is not supported yet by some of the above, but I am not above getting my hands dirty and doing some coding or control or script file generation to make it work. I would like a good tutorial and documentation to begin the effort, but the stuff I have been able to locate on line is pretty thin. I can also do documentation. I am a test engineer who rose to Test Specialist inside of Teradyne, and my forte was writing program translators from one language/system/instrument set to another across Operating systems, platforms and languages (I am a polyglot programmer). I also developed training and manuals that are still being used by that company.
I attempted to find which mailing list to subscribe to, by browsing the FEL portion of the Fedora website, but couldn't tell which group(s) would provide the types of information I would need.
The environment I would create would ultimately be used by several programmers locally who have some C knowledge, limited assembly knowledge and no embedded experience at this time, so I have my work cut out for me. I expect the total effort to take between 6 and 9 months. At the end I would like to have the following: 1. A simple installable environment for pic development, plug and go. 1.A Examples for the PICs currently supported. These must be executable and tracable, and reflect reasonable programming practices. 1.B. Programming Templates similar to the ones furnished by Microchip.
/********************** 8 months max to this point ********************/ 2. A simple file method to describe a new pic and enable its simulation, code generation, and simulator debug, so that new devices would require coding only when core processes change. 3. Documentation that would include coding examples and stepping through a bit of code to show the FSR's, variables, system operation, perhaps even the waveforms if the IDE supports that. Schematic capture compatible with the GEDA stuff would be ideal. 4. Internal linking to the Microchip website for documentation support, and adobe reader support for the pdf documents. 5. A manual explaining the operation of the system.
I know that a lot of this already exists. I know this can be done, I am pretty sure about the possible time line, and I believe I have the generic knowledge to do it. What I lack is the specific knowledge about the tools, and I am a bit dense I guess, because the documents I have found seem circular in reference and not completely clear how the links are created and set up.
I have PIC lab and Ktech lab both installed, and they both appear to more or less compile code, but the hooks to the other utilities seem quite bad. They do not seem to recognize the two PICs, the simulator is not integrated, although I can run gpsim from the command line, and some fonts are missing.
Once I get to the right mailing lists, I can provide more information to the correct folks there.
Thanks, Les H On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 21:59 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
Hello there,
As many of you already know that the FEL[1] team wants to ensure that opensource tools can be used for the real life, we would appreciate some help in terms of such documentation.
If you are familiar with tools like iverilog and ghdl, you can help us show the world what opensource EDA tools and opensource design flows can achieve. I welcome you to take one of the _completed_ opencores[2] projects and try to simulate it with ghdl or iverilog. Detail your procedures on
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/Demos/opencores/CHOSENPR... You can also upload your screenshots to that wiki page. To edit on that wiki page, please login with your FAS[4] username.
However if you encounter a bug with ghdl or iverilog during that process, please file a bug to [3].
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/wiki/Demos/opencores
Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards:
Chitlesh Goorah on the behalf of the Fedora Electronic Lab team
Other interesting urls which might interest you:
- Openmoko hardware development on Fedora:
http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/openmoko-hardware-development-on-fe...
[1]: website: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ [2]: http://opencores.com/ [3]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/frontpage.cgi [4]: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/