On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote:
Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>

On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:
On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100
bitlord wrote:

(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
NONgnome-shell desktops 
I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually
get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason
to run as far away from Gnome as possible.
1+

I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome.  Just getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.

would like to get back to something close to gnome 2.  Like I still have on my Centos boxes.
I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with
~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE
fails to save workspace settings, fails menu "reorganizations",
uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot
log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does
not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more
HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so
a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty
good, but it can get ugly sometimes.

I hope MATE & applications catches up to what it was before gnome-3.