On Mon, 2018-05-21 at 10:06 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
There are programs that just don't terminate every time when I log out. Various system/desktop daemons, sometimes web browsers.
Possibly unrelated, but I sometimes - not always - find that after updating (using dnf with the tracer plugin) I'm advised to restart my session, then on logging out and in I'm suddenly forced out again after a short time, usually less than a minute.
(Also, and only in this specific situation, Firefox forgets all the windows it had open except one, but I had the same problem with Chrome).
On logging in *again*, everything is fine. It's as if the session manager isn't waiting long enough for things to terminate gracefully before presenting the login screen, then when they do terminate it panics. I haven't managed to narrow it down yet.
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