On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:06 PM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 08:47:29PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.
I used to read the Test list as well as this one but stopped a couple of years ago when I realised I wasn't getting much out of discussions of Rawhide issues and decided to stick to the stable releases, so unifying the lists would be a retrograde step in my view.
Maybe it would be better to make the distinction a different way. The test list is used for communications of the Fedora QA team, and for people who are actively, well, _testing_ the software. This list is the _users_ list, and is for people who are _using_ the software.
Rather than saying "wrong list!" if someone is using a beta or rawhide release _as a user_, we could just be more accepting of those posts here. Of course, some times the response would be "well, that's beta still, so don't expect perfection". But in reality, a lot of software that's updated in rawhide or beta is upstream changes, and those changes are likely to land in final. To me, it makes perfect sense to talk about the user impact here. In the cases where it then goes into a QA topic, we could encourage discussion to move to the test list (or to a bug report).
+1
I've just said more or less the same thing (but not as completely or as well...) in my preceding email.