I don't support name calling, but you did do it first ("FC3 Sucks" is the equivelent of calling everyone on this list a bad name, as we're all involved in some manner with the development of FC3). That doesn't neccessarily make it okay for thomas to unleash the language like that, but you've done nothing but present problems that aren't related to Fedora CORE 3 as if they're bugs in the way FC3 is put together and functions. Gnome is NOT developed by the FC3 developers, it is an optional package that you may choose to install when you are installing FC3. VirtualPC is NOT developed by the FC3 developers. Java is NOT developed by the FC3 developers.
The above statement remind me of a joke of a lost helicopter pilot who asks a person in the window of a building, "Where am I?" The answer he received was, "In a helicopter". He know knew where he was. He was outside the Microsoft building because the answer was correct but did not really speak to his real problem.
Fedora is a collection of software packaged as a unit and distributed by Fedora (who I claim is really a subgroup of RedHat). They chose what to include and what to not include. Sure someone with experience can choose which of the included software not to install so his needs are best met. But one of our goals as a Linux community is to convince people that Linux offers an viable alternative to that other choice. To posit that everything that is part of the distribution that was not actually written by the Fedora developers (which includes the kernels) can not be discussed or criticized is a slippery slope.
We may be all involved in Fedora Development in some way but not in the same way. There are some that are more equal than others. It is my position that any program that is distributed on the CD-s of a Fedora distribution is fair game to be discussed on the list both positively and negatively. ======================================================================= Serocki's Stricture: Marriage is always a bachelor's last option. ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200
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