HowTo install network without gui or tui available?

[Thomas Schweikle]

Hi!

Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:

How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
where installed)?

I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(

[Mike Chambers]

On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:50 +0200, Thomas Schweikle wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:
>
> How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
> available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
> where installed)?
>
> I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(

Try "setup" or sudo "setup" and see if can do it through there.

[Thomas Schweikle]

Am 05.07.2011 15:56, schrieb Mike Chambers:
> On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 15:50 +0200, Thomas Schweikle wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:
> >
> > How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
> > available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
> > where installed)?
> >
> > I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(
>
> Try "setup" or sudo "setup" and see if can do it through there.

root@tola ~# setup
-bash: setup: command not found

[Reindl Harald]

Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> Hi!
>
> Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:
>
> How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
> available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
> where installed)?
>
> I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(

echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "TYPE=Ethernet" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "BOOTPROTO=static" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "ONBOOT=yes" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "USERCTL=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPV6INIT=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
/etc/init.d/network start

[g]

On 07/05/2011 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
<>
> echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "TYPE=Ethernet" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BOOTPROTO=static" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "ONBOOT=yes" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "USERCTL=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6INIT=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> /etc/init.d/network start

which would leave 'ifcfg-eth0' with only "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no".

should be;

echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "TYPE=Ethernet" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "BOOTPROTO=static" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "ONBOOT=yes" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "USERCTL=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPV6INIT=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

[Reindl Harald]

Am 05.07.2011 17:14, schrieb g:
> On 07/05/2011 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> <>
> > echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "TYPE=Ethernet" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "BOOTPROTO=static" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "ONBOOT=yes" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "USERCTL=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "IPV6INIT=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > /etc/init.d/network start
>
> which would leave 'ifcfg-eth0' with only "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no".
>
> should be;
>
> echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "TYPE=Ethernet" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BOOTPROTO=static" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "ONBOOT=yes" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "USERCTL=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6INIT=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" >> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

correct, sorry

[Thomas Schweikle]

Am 05.07.2011 16:03, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:
> >
> > How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
> > available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
> > where installed)?
> >
> > I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(
>
> echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "TYPE=Ethernet" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BOOTPROTO=static" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "ONBOOT=yes" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "USERCTL=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6INIT=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> /etc/init.d/network start

vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work. I have now:
DEVICE="p3p1"
TYPE=Ethernet
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
HWADDR=""
ONBOOT="yes"
USERCTL="no"
NM_CONTROLLED="no"

After booting:
root@tola ~# ifconfig
lo  Link encap:Local loopback
    ...

No interface p3p1.

I tried with "HWADDR" set to the devices HWAddr as with the whole
thing removed. No success. Network does only come up after login and
typing "ifup p3p1".

[Reindl Harald]

Am 05.07.2011 17:28, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work. I have now:
> DEVICE="p3p1"
> TYPE=Ethernet
> BOOTPROTO=dhcp
> HWADDR=""
> ONBOOT="yes"
> USERCTL="no"
> NM_CONTROLLED="no"
>
> After booting:
> root@tola ~# ifconfig
> lo  Link encap:Local loopback
>     ...
>
> No interface p3p1.
>
> I tried with "HWADDR" set to the devices HWAddr as with the whole
> thing removed. No success. Network does only come up after login and
> typing "ifup p3p1"

you did "chkconfig network on"?

why reboot?
"service network stop" and "service network start" exists

[Thomas Schweikle]

Am 05.07.2011 17:31, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 05.07.2011 17:28, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> > vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work. I have now:
> > DEVICE="p3p1"
> > TYPE=Ethernet
> > BOOTPROTO=dhcp
> > HWADDR=""
> > ONBOOT="yes"
> > USERCTL="no"
> > NM_CONTROLLED="no"
> >
> > After booting:
> > root@tola ~# ifconfig
> > lo  Link encap:Local loopback
> >     ...
> >
> > No interface p3p1.
> >
> > I tried with "HWADDR" set to the devices HWAddr as with the whole
> > thing removed. No success. Network does only come up after login and
> > typing "ifup p3p1"
>
> you did "chkconfig network on"?

Yes I did, but I didn't verify it doing its job as expected.
After doing it a second time it did what it was expected to do:
network is now up and running! Thanks for all your help!

I'm digging into this issue with having to do it two times to have
it work once later on --- there are further issues I have to solve
after upgrading from F14 to F15 ...
> why reboot?
> "service network stop" and "service network start" exists

Faster:
typing "reboot" including reboot: 2s
typing "service network stop; service network start" takes longer:
10s ;-)

Maybe this turns around if all running like it was running before
the upgrade!

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 18:06 +0200, Thomas Schweikle wrote:
> > why reboot?
> > "service network stop" and "service network start" exists
>
> Faster:
> typing "reboot" including reboot: 2s
> typing "service network stop; service network start" takes longer:
> 10s ;-)

Oh come on! Your system reboots and goes into your user environment
instantly (or at least in under 8 seconds)?

Also, all you actually type is:

service network stop <NL>
^P DEL DEL art <NL>

:-)

poc

[Reindl Harald]

Am 05.07.2011 18:06, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> > you did "chkconfig network on"?
>
> Yes I did, but I didn't verify it doing its job as expected

thats why not reboot for such things
> > why reboot?
> > "service network stop" and "service network start" exists
>
> Faster:

Not really
> typing "reboot" including reboot: 2s

only in a RAM disk :-)
> typing "service network stop; service network start" takes longer:
> 10s ;-)

ser<TAB> net<TAB> res<TAB>

typing "service network restart; ping mygateway" is hughe faster and
if something is not correct you save the useless reboot-time and
login, but anyways if you love booting machines do so :-)

[Joe Zeff]

On 07/05/2011 08:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> why reboot?
> "service network stop" and "service network start" exists

Quite possibly habit, based on experience with Windows.  Until (I think) 
XP, Windows only read its configuration data at boot, meaning that you 
had to restart to make almost any change take effect.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 05.07.2011 22:10, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 07/05/2011 08:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > why reboot?
> > "service network stop" and "service network start" exists
>
> Quite possibly habit, based on experience with Windows.  Until (I think) 
> XP, Windows only read its configuration data at boot, meaning that you 
> had to restart to make almost any change take effect

windows itself does know nothing and suggests permanently reboots
for every piece of action, it dos so for network changes too but
they are active instantly without reboot

the only reason reboot a linux os is updating kernel and since systemd
after playing with service-files to see if all directories which are
used available while booting *grr*

[Joe Zeff]

On 07/05/2011 08:28 AM, Thomas Schweikle wrote:
> vi was available tought. But: tried it. Doesn't work.

Did vi itself fail you or were you unable to make/save the changes 
needed?  If the latter, remember that only root can write to those files.

RPM Packaging Guide -- Last revision

[Marcos Ortiz Valmaseda]

Regards to all the Fedora users
I want to improve many of my rpm packages that I want to maintain (some 
new packages and some old ones), so I want to follow the last revision
of the RPM Packaging Guide.

Where I can find these resources?

Thanks for your time

[Tom H]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> > Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:
> >
> > How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
> > available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
> > where installed)?
> >
> > I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(
>
> echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "TYPE=Ethernet" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BOOTPROTO=static" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "ONBOOT=yes" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "USERCTL=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6INIT=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> /etc/init.d/network start

In your cut/paste, you forgot to change ">" to ">>". :)

Why not use "cat > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 <<EOF" or vi?

[Tom H]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> Am 05.07.2011 15:50, schrieb Thomas Schweikle:
> > Since I could not find a working Howto for Fedora 15:
> >
> > How do I install networking without having gui or tui tools
> > available? Even without having the ability to use them (if they
> > where installed)?
> >
> > I could not find any description not using gui setup tools ... :-(
>
> echo "DEVICE=eth0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPADDR=10.0.0.99" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETWORK=10.0.0.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "GATEWAY=10.0.0.1" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BROADCAST=10.0.0.255" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NETMASK=255.255.255.0" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "TYPE=Ethernet" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "BOOTPROTO=static" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "ONBOOT=yes" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "NM_CONTROLLED=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "USERCTL=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6INIT=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> echo "IPV6_AUTOCONF=no" > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> /etc/init.d/network start

You also need "chkconfig network on".