Hi,
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
/Martin S
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465 Trying 74.125.203.16... Connected to smtp.googlemail.com. Escape character is '^]'.
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com:
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465 Trying 74.125.203.16... Connected to smtp.googlemail.com. Escape character is '^]'.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
/Martin S
On 08/23/15 14:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com:
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465 Trying 74.125.203.16... Connected to smtp.googlemail.com. Escape character is '^]'.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
Well, that pretty much rules out a DNS or network issue and points to something in Evolution. But, since I don't use that I don't have a suggestion other than to say "double check your settings".
FWIW, I have a test system and set up Evolution to use my gmail account and it works fine for me.
When you set up your gmail account in evolution did you allow it to automatically set up the settings?
The server needs to be "smtp.googlemail.com" using port 465 and you need to check the box for "server requires authentication". Also need to have encryption set to "SSL on a dedicated port" and use an Authentication type of Login.
On 08/23/15 01:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com:
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465 Trying 74.125.203.16... Connected to smtp.googlemail.com. Escape character is '^]'.
. that only proves he has traffic, which he already does. note next below.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
your header shows you using an email client of;
Horde Application Framework 5
may we presume your email client is;
Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5
is so, then you have email ability via horde and that you have email protocol to you server.
you still do not know if evolution is getting out.
have you tried to receive with evolution? if use and does not, you still do not know if evolution is having intercourse with out monitoring etho port.
On Aug 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 08/23/15 01:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com:
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465 Trying 74.125.203.16... Connected to smtp.googlemail.com. Escape character is '^]'.
. that only proves he has traffic, which he already does. note next below.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
your header shows you using an email client of;
Horde Application Framework 5
may we presume your email client is;
Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5
is so, then you have email ability via horde and that you have email protocol to you server.
you still do not know if evolution is getting out.
have you tried to receive with evolution? if use and does not, you still do not know if evolution is having intercourse with out monitoring etho port.
Actually port SHOULD be 587 (submission) server is smtp.gmail.com http://smtp.gmail.com/ and you MAY need to get an app specific password if you have that setup under your gmail account. If the server does not recognize the machine that mail is being sent from it will not accept it. If you log into gmail via the web interface, you can see all the machines that have attempted access to your gmail account.
Using Wireshark to trace the communication from Evolution to gmail may help solve the problem, or you could issue the commands yourself to see what gmail is responding to, although once you get past the STARTTLS you may have a hard time understanding the encryptions ;P
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On 08/23/15 02:30, Shaheen Bakhtiar wrote:
On Aug 23, 2015, at 12:22 AM, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote: On 08/23/15 01:58, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com:
On 08/23/15 14:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
For sending to email one test would be to make sure you at least get this....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ telnet smtp.googlemail.com 465 Trying 74.125.203.16... Connected to smtp.googlemail.com. Escape character is '^]'.
. that only proves he has traffic, which he already does. note next below.
Yes, I get that on both servers (my own and Gmail).
your header shows you using an email client of;
Horde Application Framework 5
may we presume your email client is;
Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 5
is so, then you have email ability via horde and that you have email protocol to you server.
you still do not know if evolution is getting out.
have you tried to receive with evolution? if use and does not, you still do not know if evolution is having intercourse with out monitoring etho port.
Actually port SHOULD be 587 (submission) server is smtp.gmail.com http://smtp.gmail.com/ and you MAY need to get an app specific password if you have that setup under your gmail account. If the server does not recognize the machine that mail is being sent from it will not accept it. If you log into gmail via the web interface, you can see all the machines that have attempted access to your gmail account.
Using Wireshark to trace the communication from Evolution to gmail may help solve the problem, or you could issue the commands yourself to see what gmail is responding to, although once you get past the STARTTLS you may have a hard time understanding the encryptions ;P
. Martin's original post, which i am not glad that i re-read, says nothing about problem with gmail.
problem is that evolution receives but does not send. nothing is said about who with, tho i presume it is with server he is posting via with horde client.
using a system monitor that shows web traffic is quicker and easier than using wireshark to read traffic data when viewing a wave from will answer question of intercourse.
if Martin installs thunderbird and configures agents online, thunderbird will/should configure agents correctly.
if thunderbird intercourses with email servers, then he proves that evolution is configed wrong for email server to receive his sending of email even tho server is downloading email to him, proving that evolution has bad smpt config, a bug, or bad install of software.
Update so far: Using Thunderbird I am able to connect properly and send email on my GMail account. It finds and autoconfigures all settings. On Evolution it doesn't.
I can recieve mail on both Thunderbird and Evolution.
Regarding my own server Thunderbird reports that the password/username is incorrect while I know I've entered them correctly and this cannot even connect. On Evoloution I can connect and recieve mail but not send.
/Martin S
On 08/23/15 02:44, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Update so far: Using Thunderbird I am able to connect properly and send email on my GMail account. It finds and autoconfigures all settings. On Evolution it doesn't.
I can recieve mail on both Thunderbird and Evolution.
Regarding my own server Thunderbird reports that the password/username is incorrect while I know I've entered them correctly and this cannot even connect. On Evoloution I can connect and recieve mail but not send.
. use thunderbird configs for smpt in evolution.
as for password problem, does thunderbird setup password work for gmail?
to remove all passwords so they will require reentry, close thunderbird, open file browser, open directory ~/.thunderbird/*defaults, *rename* file signons.sqlite to signons.sqlite.backup. [what ever]
reopen thunderbird, pull emails for all servers. you will be prompted for passwords again. enter them for each server, enable [X] save password.
after download processing, close thunderbird and reopen to lock in new password entries. run email download for all servers, auto sending of passwords should work.
On 08/23/15 01:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Hi,
. hello.
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out.
. are you sure that you have evolution enabled for online?
do you have a system monitor that monitors eth port to show traffic?
you could/can use wireshark to monitor traffic, but that is a lot of overhead.
I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
. traffic monitor will show evolution is getting out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
. you still do not know if evolution has intercourse.
sending/receiving emails via a web based email server means nothing in relation to using evolution locally.
install thunderbird to see how it works.
Quoting g geleem@bellsouth.net:
On 08/23/15 01:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Hi,
. hello.
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out.
Update: Testing telnet access I can connect, but sending "ehlo" command does nothing.
sending/receiving emails via a web based email server means nothing in relation to using evolution locally.
Yeah I know, just wanted to point out that it's not the sending itself that the problem.
install thunderbird to see how it works.
I'll give it a try ...
/Martin S
On 08/23/15 02:10, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Quoting g geleem@bellsouth.net:
On 08/23/15 01:13, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Hi,
. hello.
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out.
Update: Testing telnet access I can connect, but sending "ehlo" command does nothing.
sending/receiving emails via a web based email server means nothing in relation to using evolution locally.
Yeah I know, just wanted to point out that it's not the sending itself that the problem.
install thunderbird to see how it works.
I'll give it a try ...
. ok. that will prove that you can intercourse email protocol with another email client.
can you setup horde client to send/receive via gmail?
if you can, then there is nothing wrong with email protocol via gmail.
back again to system monitor to see if evolution is sending,
On 23.08.2015, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
First, I would test if you can reach the mailserver at all:
telnet smtp.gmail.com 25
If this succeeds, then nstall tcptraceroute (or something similar) and run it against the mailserver/port you're trying to reach. It will show you where your packets are being blocked and thus help you to narrow down the underlying cause.
Example: tcptraceroute smtp.gmail.com -p 25
On 08/23/15 15:12, Heinz Diehl wrote:
First, I would test if you can reach the mailserver at all:
telnet smtp.gmail.com 25
That isn't the proper set up for a gmail account. :-)
On Sun, 2015-08-23 at 08:13 +0200, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:
Hi,
Been googling this a bit without find a solution. I installed Fedora 22 on my laptop, and I find that I can recieve mail in Evolution, but not send. Only thing that happens is that the sending process times out. I tried with my perosnal mail server, and - to check with a server that absolutely *should* work - my Gmail account. Both times out.
Sending mail from both webmail accounts (on the servers) works as expected. Any ideas?
/Martin S
If you take this to the Evolution list you might get better results. See https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Be sure to mention your Evolution version (not just your Fedora version).
poc
Hi,
In the end it turned out that the SASL authentication setup had become corrupted, so didn't authenticate users. That's what I discovered once I got port 587 up instead of 25.
/Martin S
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