install FC5 FC4 fails

[dominique]

Hi all,

I began to use RH (then FC) 5 years ago, but im just a user (not a pro
at all)
The 6 install that i already made before, worked without any trouble.
Im trying to build a new box, and for the first time, i dont succeed to
install FC5.

HW:
INTEL dual core E6600
MB INTEL 965LT (that includes eth, and sound ability)
2X disk SATA 300G (STA2) SEAGATE
no floppy
DVD R/W LG1640 (IDE)
2X 1G 667 MHz KingMax DDR-2
nvidia 6200
keyb USB - mouse PS2

When I boot the DVD FC5 (media check ok)
a lot of lines (that i dont know how to intercept) appears very quick,
including:
	PCI: failed to allocate mem ressource #6 20000@900000000 for
0000:01:00.0
then the installer asks me (in a kind of low video mode) about the Keyb
and the Lang.
then it asks 
- where are the packages (DVDROM HD or else)
then
- what driver has to be loaded to access it ! (even if i choose HD)
and in fact, none works for the DVD : it doesnt "see" it anymore.

- I spent hours to google without finding something (that i can
understand)
- I tried to write the dvd and its iso on the HD (using a second PC and
a FAT32 part.), then 
i boot on the DVD, then i access that iso (soory, but i dont quiet
understand how i did it)
i got access to rest of the install (with the usual graphical), but 
	1.eth0 (of the MB)
	2.dvd-R/W, 
	3.sound card (of theMB)
are not detected.

- I tried to use an ASUS videoCard instead of the nVIDIA one, same
result.
- I tried FC4, same result.(media check ok)
- I updated the BIOS, no change.
- I installed XP (sorry) it worked.

I cant get any help from the shop where i try to build it (before
buying) because here (north of thailand), they no nothing (less than I)
about linux.

Please, what should i try ?
Is there a componant of that box that i should change ?

dominique

[Thufir]

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:05:03 +0700, dominique wrote:

>  Hi all,
>  
>  I began to use RH (then FC) 5 years ago, but im just a user (not a pro
>  at all)
>  The 6 install that i already made before, worked without any trouble.
>  Im trying to build a new box, and for the first time, i dont succeed to
>  install FC5.
>  
>  HW:
>  INTEL dual core E6600
>  MB INTEL 965LT (that includes eth, and sound ability)
>  2X disk SATA 300G (STA2) SEAGATE
>  no floppy
>  DVD R/W LG1640 (IDE)
>  2X 1G 667 MHz KingMax DDR-2
>  nvidia 6200
>  keyb USB - mouse PS2
>  
>  When I boot the DVD FC5 (media check ok)
>  a lot of lines (that i dont know how to intercept) appears very quick,
>  including:
>  	PCI: failed to allocate mem ressource #6 20000@900000000 for
>  0000:01:00.0
>  then the installer asks me (in a kind of low video mode) about the Keyb
>  and the Lang.
>  then it asks 
>  - where are the packages (DVDROM HD or else)
>  then
>  - what driver has to be loaded to access it ! (even if i choose HD)
>  and in fact, none works for the DVD : it doesnt "see" it anymore.
>  
>  - I spent hours to google without finding something (that i can
>  understand)
>  - I tried to write the dvd and its iso on the HD (using a second PC and
>  a FAT32 part.), then 
>  i boot on the DVD, then i access that iso (soory, but i dont quiet
>  understand how i did it)
>  i got access to rest of the install (with the usual graphical), but 
>  	1.eth0 (of the MB)
>  	2.dvd-R/W, 
>  	3.sound card (of theMB)
>  are not detected.
>  
>  - I tried to use an ASUS videoCard instead of the nVIDIA one, same
>  result.
>  - I tried FC4, same result.(media check ok)
>  - I updated the BIOS, no change.
>  - I installed XP (sorry) it worked.
>  
>  I cant get any help from the shop where i try to build it (before
>  buying) because here (north of thailand), they no nothing (less than I)
>  about linux.
>  
>  Please, what should i try ?
>  Is there a componant of that box that i should change ?
>  
>  dominique 

My advice, assuming you have a decent connection:

download _only_ the FC5 *rescue* CD.  At the boot prompt enter the
following command:

linux askmethod selinux=0 reiserfs

Go through the menu, until you're prompted for the type of
install you want.  Options are something like:

local CD
FTP
HTTP

select http.  Enter the following info:

domain:  mirrors.kernel.org
path: fedora/core/5/i386/os

and the rest is cake.  The above only makes sense if you have a
good connection.  If you don't, you might want to pick up,
perhaps, a ubuntu CD or DVD, as they're quite common and,
I believe, easy to install.  Or, a Fedora CD/DVD, but that might
be rarer than ubuntu.

(when you get to the partitions, you can opt to use reiserfs, but
that's totally optional and not required to just get your system
up and running.)


-Thufir

[Rainer Traut]

Hi,

dominique schrieb:
>  Hi all,
>  
>  I began to use RH (then FC) 5 years ago, but im just a user (not a pro
>  at all)
>  The 6 install that i already made before, worked without any trouble.
>  Im trying to build a new box, and for the first time, i dont succeed to
>  install FC5.
>  
>  HW:
>  INTEL dual core E6600
>  MB INTEL 965LT (that includes eth, and sound ability)
>  2X disk SATA 300G (STA2) SEAGATE
>  no floppy
>  DVD R/W LG1640 (IDE)
>  2X 1G 667 MHz KingMax DDR-2
>  nvidia 6200
>  keyb USB - mouse PS2
>   
If you run the sata discs in AHCI mode (assuming you managed to 
install), you're out of luck with the latest kernel. Here's a bugzilla I 
opened:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204586

Rainer

[Deepak]

On 9/7/06, Rainer Traut <tr.ml(a)gmx.de&gt; wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  dominique schrieb:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > I began to use RH (then FC) 5 years ago, but im just a user (not a pro
>  > at all)
>  > The 6 install that i already made before, worked without any trouble.
>  > Im trying to build a new box, and for the first time, i dont succeed to
>  > install FC5.
>  >
>  > HW:
>  > INTEL dual core E6600
>  > MB INTEL 965LT (that includes eth, and sound ability)
>  > 2X disk SATA 300G (STA2) SEAGATE
>  > no floppy
>  > DVD R/W LG1640 (IDE)
>  > 2X 1G 667 MHz KingMax DDR-2
>  > nvidia 6200
>  > keyb USB - mouse PS2
>  >
>
>  If you run the sata discs in AHCI mode (assuming you managed to
>  install), you're out of luck with the latest kernel. Here's a bugzilla I
>  opened:
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204586
>
>  Rainer
>
>  
I am suspecting that certain motherboards are not supported. In my
case its "ASRock" motherboard for P4 with Hyperthreading capabilities
and I had no luck installing FC5 or FC4 in this machine. It stops at
certain point after vmlinuz starts. I had posted this message long
time ago but no answer from anybody. Please have a look at this:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-June/msg04583.html

[Chong Yu Meng]

On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:19 +0800, Deepak Shrestha wrote:
>  On 9/7/06, Rainer Traut <tr.ml(a)gmx.de&gt; wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > dominique schrieb:
>  > > Hi all,
>  > >
>  > > I began to use RH (then FC) 5 years ago, but im just a user (not a pro
>  > > at all)
>  > > The 6 install that i already made before, worked without any trouble.
>  > > Im trying to build a new box, and for the first time, i dont succeed to
>  > > install FC5.
>  > >
>  > > HW:
>  > > INTEL dual core E6600
>  > > MB INTEL 965LT (that includes eth, and sound ability)
>  > > 2X disk SATA 300G (STA2) SEAGATE
>  > > no floppy
>  > > DVD R/W LG1640 (IDE)
>  > > 2X 1G 667 MHz KingMax DDR-2
>  > > nvidia 6200
>  > > keyb USB - mouse PS2
>  > >
>  >
>  > If you run the sata discs in AHCI mode (assuming you managed to
>  > install), you're out of luck with the latest kernel. Here's a bugzilla I
>  > opened:
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204586
>  >
>  > Rainer
>  >
>  >
>  
>  I am suspecting that certain motherboards are not supported. In my
>  case its "ASRock" motherboard for P4 with Hyperthreading capabilities
>  and I had no luck installing FC5 or FC4 in this machine. It stops at
>  certain point after vmlinuz starts. I had posted this message long
>  time ago but no answer from anybody. Please have a look at this:
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-June/msg04583.html
>   
Hi Deepak,

Maybe you can provide more information, such as what kind of hard disks
you are using (SCSI/SATA/PATA/IDE), whether you are running RAID and
what kind? (software/hardware RAID, what kind of RAID card if any)

Also the post you pointed to in the link says you are using a Celeron
chip. Unless I am really behind the times, I'd think there are no
Celeron chips that can do Hyperthreading.


-- 
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appartient à l’humanité. et que c’est la flamme qui illumine le monde."

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[Deepak]

>  Hi Deepak,
>
>  Maybe you can provide more information, such as what kind of hard disks
>  you are using (SCSI/SATA/PATA/IDE), whether you are running RAID and
>  what kind? (software/hardware RAID, what kind of RAID card if any) 
Well its normal PC without any RAID or SATA drives, just IDE drive
(40GB), 512 MB RAM with normal keyboard and mouse.


>  Also the post you pointed to in the link says you are using a
> Celeron
>  chip. Unless I am really behind the times, I'd think there are no
>  Celeron chips that can do Hyperthreading. 
Sorry for the unclear explanation.
Its like this:
=========
the original mother board which came with that celeron cpu was
destroyed so I bought the new one (which was build for newer P4 system
capable of hyperthreading) but can still be used with celeron cpu.

This is the only machine where I can't install FC4 or 5.
Any Suggestion??

[James Wilkinson]

Deepak Shrestha wrote:
>  the original mother board which came with that celeron cpu was
>  destroyed so I bought the new one (which was build for newer P4 system
>  capable of hyperthreading) but can still be used with celeron cpu. 
You mention that it's an ASRock. What's the model number of the
motherboard?

James.

-- 
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aprilcottage.co.uk | So far SCO have with great reluctance shown only one
                   | card, which turned out to be "Mr Bun, The Baker".
                   |     -- Electric Dragon on groklaw.net

[Deepak]

>  You mention that it's an ASRock. What's the model number of
> the
>  motherboard?
>
>  James. 
Motherboard: AsRock P4i45GV Prescott 533

[dominique]

On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:19 +0800, Deepak Shrestha wrote:
>  On 9/7/06, Rainer Traut <tr.ml(a)gmx.de&gt; wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > dominique schrieb:
>  > > Hi all,
>  > >
>  > > I began to use RH (then FC) 5 years ago, but im just a user (not a pro
>  > > at all)
>  > > The 6 install that i already made before, worked without any trouble.
>  > > Im trying to build a new box, and for the first time, i dont succeed to
>  > > install FC5.
>  > >
>  > > HW:
>  > > INTEL dual core E6600
>  > > MB INTEL 965LT (that includes eth, and sound ability)
>  > > 2X disk SATA 300G (STA2) SEAGATE
>  > > no floppy
>  > > DVD R/W LG1640 (IDE)
>  > > 2X 1G 667 MHz KingMax DDR-2
>  > > nvidia 6200
>  > > keyb USB - mouse PS2
>  > >
>  >
>  > If you run the sata discs in AHCI mode (assuming you managed to
>  > install), you're out of luck with the latest kernel. Here's a bugzilla I
>  > opened:
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=204586
>  >
>  > Rainer
>  >
>  >
>  
>  I am suspecting that certain motherboards are not supported. In my
>  case its "ASRock" motherboard for P4 with Hyperthreading capabilities
>  and I had no luck installing FC5 or FC4 in this machine. It stops at
>  certain point after vmlinuz starts. I had posted this message long
>  time ago but no answer from anybody. Please have a look at this:
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-June/msg04583.html
>   

FC6 test 2 failed too, (after FC5 and FC4) the same way. therefore, the
version of the kernel is very probably not the cause of the failure.

Its hard for me to believe that a commun MB is not supported (Intel says
linux supported, and i updated the BIOS). 

- Is there any kind of mistake that i could have done when i plugged the
hardware ? or when i setted the BIOS choices ?
- If i have to use another MB, what would you advice has a safe choice.

dominique

[Timothy Murphy]

dominique wrote:

>  FC6 test 2 failed too, (after FC5 and FC4) the same way. therefore,
> the
>  version of the kernel is very probably not the cause of the failure.
>  
>  Its hard for me to believe that a commun MB is not supported (Intel says
>  linux supported, and i updated the BIOS). 
If it were me, I would try Knoppix.
If that works run fsck on the disk.
And perhaps test the memory.
Maybe try running in text mode
(edit /etc/inittab).

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie
tel: [phone]
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

[Deepak]

>  FC6 test 2 failed too, (after FC5 and FC4) the same way. therefore,
> the
>  version of the kernel is very probably not the cause of the failure.
>
>  Its hard for me to believe that a commun MB is not supported (Intel says
>  linux supported, and i updated the BIOS).
>
>  - Is there any kind of mistake that i could have done when i plugged the
>  hardware ? or when i setted the BIOS choices ?
>  - If i have to use another MB, what would you advice has a safe choice.
>
>  dominique 
I guess there are certain hardware level features implemented by
manufacturer to enhance performace or functionality (for windows)
which is not understood by linux. I tried to install FC5, then tried
FC4 then SUSE 10 but all three stopped with different error message.
What I remember is FC4 says its USB related error while other two gave
different error. Also tried to install in text mode but no luck.

install FC5 FC4 fail ? solved

[dominique]

Hi,

I decided to try without any IDE devide (the DVD R/W LG),
by using a cable-device "USB 2.0 TO IDE CABLE" (R-Driver II).

I plugged the DVD-RW with it. It has 2 IDE connectors, one is still
free. And for the first time, dmidecode (and lspci) show a good
understanding of the MB.

The install was OK (FC5) - i got the 2 sata disk, the DVD-RW, USB of
corse and eth0. I have had to insert a soundCard (an old yamaha), and
everything is working now.

THANKS to all,

Dominique

On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 19:45 +0800, Deepak Shrestha wrote:
>  > FC6 test 2 failed too, (after FC5 and FC4) the same way.
> therefore, the
>  > version of the kernel is very probably not the cause of the failure.
>  >
>  > Its hard for me to believe that a commun MB is not supported (Intel says
>  > linux supported, and i updated the BIOS).
>  >
>  > - Is there any kind of mistake that i could have done when i plugged the
>  > hardware ? or when i setted the BIOS choices ?
>  > - If i have to use another MB, what would you advice has a safe choice.
>  >
>  > dominique
>  
>  I guess there are certain hardware level features implemented by
>  manufacturer to enhance performace or functionality (for windows)
>  which is not understood by linux. I tried to install FC5, then tried
>  FC4 then SUSE 10 but all three stopped with different error message.
>  What I remember is FC4 says its USB related error while other two gave
>  different error. Also tried to install in text mode but no luck.
>