Since, as I understand it, I'm not allowed to share a license of flash, I don't see how I can install it on a multi-user machine. What's anyone else doing?
What are people using as an alternative?
jh
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 08:25, John Hodrien wrote:
Since, as I understand it, I'm not allowed to share a license of flash, I don't see how I can install it on a multi-user machine. What's anyone else doing?
Considering that Windows 2000 and Windows XP are just as "multi-user" as Linux, I don't see a problem, unless the Windows and Linux versions of the flash plugin have different licensing agreements.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Ben Steeves wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 08:25, John Hodrien wrote:
Since, as I understand it, I'm not allowed to share a license of flash, I don't see how I can install it on a multi-user machine. What's anyone else doing?
Considering that Windows 2000 and Windows XP are just as "multi-user" as Linux, I don't see a problem, unless the Windows and Linux versions of the flash plugin have different licensing agreements.
I worded my original post poorly, since I was concerned not just with multi-user, but multi-machine. Since the license precludes a sole license supporting multiple machines, I don't see how I can image machines...
In the EULA, it says:
2a ...A license for the Software may not be shared, installed or used concurrently on different computers.
At what point does one enter into a license to use the software? If I install the software and someone else uses it, they've not agreed to the EULA.
It also states in the same section "You may install and use the Software on a single desktop computer". Does this preclude the use of imaging software with it?
There's also a separate licensing scheme that is for distribution of flash players within a company intranet that possibly covers this case, although even then it's not clear. I've contacted Macromedia for clarification.
jh
You can always try the Free Software implementations :)
swfdec flash
I know they have serious problems, but they can only be fixed if more people start using them, instead of the ultra-proprietary Macromedia software.
Hugs, Rui
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 08:33, William Penton wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:26, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
You can always try the Free Software implementations :)
swfdec flash
where and how can i get those packages?
-william
Unfortunately the free software implementations are currently almost unusable because they lack important functionality, and we never will be able to have all functionality because doing so would violate several patents. The ones that I know about are Fraunhofer (sp?) and Sorenson. There are undoubtedly more.
It is my understanding that swfdec depends on libmad (MP3 codec), so in any country with software patents it is incompatible with the LGPL license that it is published under.
Warren
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:26, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
You can always try the Free Software implementations :)
swfdec flash
I couldn't get either one of these to completely build under Fedora. swfdec will build the player (compile bombs out on the plugin), but it plays slower-than-molasses on my PIII/450 (much, much slower than Macromedia's player).
What I'd like is a Flash plugin that actually let me configure it (always low quality for animations so it doesn't suck as much CPU, disable sound, etc.)
The gplflash plugin/player at least hints that it'll compile without sound, but I couldn't get it to compule at all. :/
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Ben Steeves wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 08:25, John Hodrien wrote:
Since, as I understand it, I'm not allowed to share a license of flash, I don't see how I can install it on a multi-user machine. What's anyone else doing?
Considering that Windows 2000 and Windows XP are just as "multi-user" as Linux, I don't see a problem, unless the Windows and Linux versions of the flash plugin have different licensing agreements.
Macromedia don't entirely understand their own licensing either. After a bit of tit for tat, they've said that I need to sign up to their Intranet Distribution License, which amusingly enough... "The free Macromedia Flash and Shockwave Players Distribution Program is designed for ISPs, enterprises, and software developers solely for the Windows PC (including Windows 95, 98, 2000, NT, ME and XP) and Macintosh desktop operating systems."
So it looks like I'm without a license to install it on our linux boxes.
jh
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, John Hodrien wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Ben Steeves wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 08:25, John Hodrien wrote:
Since, as I understand it, I'm not allowed to share a license of flash, I don't see how I can install it on a multi-user machine. What's anyone else doing?
Considering that Windows 2000 and Windows XP are just as "multi-user" as Linux, I don't see a problem, unless the Windows and Linux versions of the flash plugin have different licensing agreements.
Macromedia don't entirely understand their own licensing either. After a bit of tit for tat, they've said that I need to sign up to their Intranet Distribution License, which amusingly enough... "The free Macromedia Flash and Shockwave Players Distribution Program is designed for ISPs, enterprises, and software developers solely for the Windows PC (including Windows 95, 98, 2000, NT, ME and XP) and Macintosh desktop operating systems."
So it looks like I'm without a license to install it on our linux boxes.
As a followup, Macromedia have now agreed with me in saying that there is no License suitable for an admin install of flash on linux across multiple machines. They've passed this request onwards and upwards to see if this can change.
So for the moment it looks like I'll have to simply point users to install it themselves, which is annoying.
jh
Or use the Free Software alternatives, and help correcting bugs :)
Annoying, as well, but at least useful.
Hugs, Rui
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 13:05, John Hodrien wrote:
So for the moment it looks like I'll have to simply point users to install it themselves, which is annoying.
Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
Or use the Free Software alternatives, and help correcting bugs :)
Annoying, as well, but at least useful.
Unfortunately it isn't feasible to implement a fully working libre flash player due to a number of software patents. Fraunhofer & Sorenson are two that I know about. There are likely many more. =(
Warren
On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 10:56, Warren Togami wrote:
Unfortunately it isn't feasible to implement a fully working libre flash player due to a number of software patents. Fraunhofer & Sorenson are two that I know about. There are likely many more. =(
Rats for software patents.
Rui
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