gnome freezing on F32

[antonio montagnani]

Installed F32 on two machines last sunday; I have experienced freezing 
of the machines and I had to hard reboot, Anyone experiencing same issue??
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[Andre Robatino]

I have experienced freezes shortly after running dnf on one of my machines. It has nothing
to do with GNOME, it happens even in runlevel 3 (multi-user). I found this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1826091

It claims the problem is fixed with kernel 5.6.7 which is in testing, I haven't tried
it yet.

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-21c51fd821

Fortunately, despite it happening shortly after a dnf transaction, I haven't seen any
signs of the transaction being corrupted. AFAICT everything in the transaction is written
to disk before the freeze, even though other file system changes (such as bash history)
often aren't.

[Andre Robatino]

Oh, and BTW, the reporter of the bug commented that he thought it should be a 32 blocker,
but didn't mark it as such. I was noticing similar freezes in my 32 and Rawhide VMs a
few weeks ago, but they went away, presumably when the fixes made it into the kernel.

[Antonio M]

furthermore if I use dnfdragora for updating it crashes immediately :-(
Antonio Montagnani

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Il giorno mar 28 apr 2020 alle ore 10:34 Andre Robatino <
robatino(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; ha scritto:

>  Oh, and BTW, the reporter of the bug commented that he thought it
> should
>  be a 32 blocker, but didn't mark it as such. I was noticing similar freezes
>  in my 32 and Rawhide VMs a few weeks ago, but they went away, presumably
>  when the fixes made it into the kernel.
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[Andre Robatino]

The machine experiencing the freezes is running the 5.6.6 kernel (the F32 release
version), which is also the current stable kernel in F31, so I'd expect some people
running F31 to also be seeing the freezes right now. The previous F31 kernel was 5.5.17, I
don't know if that was affected.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 07:02 +0200, antonio montagnani wrote:
>  Installed F32 on two machines last sunday; I have experienced
> freezing 
>  of the machines and I had to hard reboot, Anyone experiencing same issue?? 
At the risk of being flamed yet again, I'll point out that the Fedora
Test list is the place to discuss this sort of thing until F32 is
actually released. The people who might be able to help are more likely
to be found there, since that's what it's for.

poc

[Andre Robatino]

I'm not certain, but I thought it was considered okay to discuss a Beta version of an
upcoming release on the users list. Besides, by the time most people read this thread, F32
will have been officially released (just a few hours from now).

[Andre Robatino]

I might be thinking of #fedora on IRC. The topic says "Topic for #fedora is: #Fedora
F30, F31, F32 Beta end user support".

[Tim]

On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 10:27 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
>  I'm not certain, but I thought it was considered okay to discuss
> a
>  Beta version of an upcoming release on the users list. 
It's generally considered not right.  This list is for the current
*release*, the test list is for the not yet released.

>  Besides, by the time most people read this thread, F32 will have
> been
>  officially released (just a few hours from now). 
That kind of thing does muddy the water, though.  But still, you're
better off trying to debug an unreleased version on the test list.  As
Patrick said, that's where everyone else who's already been dealing
with it will be.

And until it actually is released, it's still unreleased.  Something
might happen that prevents it being released, or there might be a
delay.  And even if it is released on schedule, you'll find most users
on this list unfamiliar with an only-just-released version.
 
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[Antonio M]

Fedora 32 is official, so this discussion can continue on this list.
Anyway, it seems that same issue might be in F31, as the bug reported by
Andre is quite old
Antonio Montagnani

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Il giorno mar 28 apr 2020 alle ore 15:31 Tim via users <
users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org&gt; ha scritto:

>  On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 10:27 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
>  > I'm not certain, but I thought it was considered okay to discuss a
>  > Beta version of an upcoming release on the users list.
>
>  It's generally considered not right.  This list is for the current
>  *release*, the test list is for the not yet released.
>
>  > Besides, by the time most people read this thread, F32 will have been
>  > officially released (just a few hours from now).
>
>  That kind of thing does muddy the water, though.  But still, you're
>  better off trying to debug an unreleased version on the test list.  As
>  Patrick said, that's where everyone else who's already been dealing
>  with it will be.
>
>  And until it actually is released, it's still unreleased.  Something
>  might happen that prevents it being released, or there might be a
>  delay.  And even if it is released on schedule, you'll find most users
>  on this list unfamiliar with an only-just-released version.
>
>  --
>
>  uname -rsvp
>  Linux 3.10.0-1062.18.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 17 23:49:17 UTC 2020
>  x86_64
>
>  Boilerplate:  All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
>  I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.
>
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[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-04-28 21:31, Tim via users wrote:

Pardon the Top Post....

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Thanks to the hard work of thousands of Fedora community
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>  On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 10:27 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:
> > I'm not certain, but I thought it was considered okay to discuss a
> > Beta version of an upcoming release on the users list.
>  It's generally considered not right.  This list is for the current
>  *release*, the test list is for the not yet released.
>
> > Besides, by the time most people read this thread, F32 will have been
> > officially released (just a few hours from now).
>  That kind of thing does muddy the water, though.  But still, you're
>  better off trying to debug an unreleased version on the test list.  As
>  Patrick said, that's where everyone else who's already been dealing
>  with it will be.
>
>  And until it actually is released, it's still unreleased.  Something
>  might happen that prevents it being released, or there might be a
>  delay.  And even if it is released on schedule, you'll find most users
>  on this list unfamiliar with an only-just-released version.
>    

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