Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:R.Senthilkumar,Lecturer,Department of Electroncis and Communication Engineering,Insitute of Road and Transport Technology,Erode - 638316.Tamilnadu,IndiaMobile No:9940882605
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:56:05 +0530 (IST) Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:R.Senthilkumar,Lecturer,Department of Electroncis and Communication Engineering,Insitute of Road and Transport Technology,Erode - 638316.Tamilnadu,IndiaMobile No:9940882605
Here is the URL that you need to go to to request free Fedora Media in your area:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
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Frank Cox wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:56:05 +0530 (IST) Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,�I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:R.Senthilkumar,Lecturer,Department of Electroncis and Communication Engineering,Insitute of Road and Transport Technology,Erode - 638316.Tamilnadu,IndiaMobile No:9940882605
Here is the URL that you need to go to to request free Fedora Media in your area:
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Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Matt Flaschen
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 13:56 +0530, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
R.Senthilkumar, s.com Lecturer,
Department of Electroncis and Communication Engineering,
Insitute of Road and Transport Technology,
Erode - 638316.
Tamilnadu,
India
Mobile No:9940882605
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Ed Greshko wrote:
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
Matt Flaschen
2009/2/24 Robert P. J. Day rpjday@crashcourse.ca:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
Usually Indian ISPs put ridiculous download caps. Unless the institute/university is directly funded by the government, they invariably run short of resources. And judging from the name of the OP's employers, I think its privately funded.
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
Matt Flaschen
Since when being formal and polite is ridiculous. You may want to consider cultural diversity before replying with what could be construed as offensive comments. While no harm was intended as such it's probably not showing great social acumen to publicly comment on whether one's comments are of the ridiculous sort or not... my .02 cents T
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
OK...
I tend not to make assumptions about people's situation. I see that Suvayu has just educated the list on the state of affairs of some ISPs and universities in India.
I feel that what Robert said was uncalled for. In some cultures it isn't uncommon to announce ones station in life as a source of pride. Besides, it has always been bad form to point out grammar and spelling errors of people who are not native English speakers.
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Ed Greshko wrote:
I tend not to make assumptions about people's situation. I see that Suvayu has just educated the list on the state of affairs of some ISPs and universities in India.
I feel that what Robert said was uncalled for. In some cultures it isn't uncommon to announce ones station in life as a source of pride. Besides, it has always been bad form to point out grammar and spelling errors of people who are not native English speakers.
since people appear to be taking my name in vain, a quick recap if we could. the OP wrote:
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
to which i replied (quite reasonably, i thought):
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
there was absolutely no reference to country, race or ethnic origin in how i responded. and there was no nitpicking pedantry regarding grammar or spelling. it was (i thought) a perfectly logical puzzlement as to how someone who claims to be competent at networking at a reputable engineering college claimed to be unable to download a DVD image. i did not mock, i did not satirize, i simply found that passing strange, and i would have found it similarly strange if the OP was posting from india, new york or alberta.
and some of you folks who immediately went full-metal politically correct might want to chill out just a little bit. there are enough *real* racism and bigotry problems out there without some of you having to invent them out of whole cloth.
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Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Ed Greshko wrote:
I tend not to make assumptions about people's situation. I see that Suvayu has just educated the list on the state of affairs of some ISPs and universities in India.
I feel that what Robert said was uncalled for. In some cultures it isn't uncommon to announce ones station in life as a source of pride. Besides, it has always been bad form to point out grammar and spelling errors of people who are not native English speakers.
since people appear to be taking my name in vain, a quick recap if we could. the OP wrote:
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
to which i replied (quite reasonably, i thought):
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
there was absolutely no reference to country, race or ethnic origin in how i responded. and there was no nitpicking pedantry regarding grammar or spelling. it was (i thought) a perfectly logical puzzlement as to how someone who claims to be competent at networking at a reputable engineering college claimed to be unable to download a DVD image. i did not mock, i did not satirize, i simply found that passing strange, and i would have found it similarly strange if the OP was posting from india, new york or alberta.
and some of you folks who immediately went full-metal politically correct might want to chill out just a little bit. there are enough *real* racism and bigotry problems out there without some of you having to invent them out of whole cloth.
Sorry for being unclear..... Didn't intend to imply that your comments were racist, merely thoughtless.
I still feel that what you said was unnecessary and it would matter not who the OP was.... A fellow made a request and embellished the request. I think it would be better to either help or not....and not express puzzlement. It almost seems as if the OP needs to now justify his request.
That is not to say that if the same OP didn't ask a question that could easily be found by Google that I may not throw in a sarcastic remark when giving the answer....but I would at least give the answer.
Maybe....had you gone the extra step and given an answer as opposed to raising questions it would have made a difference in people's reactions?
Sorry to ruffle your feathers.....
Thierry Sayegh De Bellis wrote:
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
Matt Flaschen
Since when being formal and polite is ridiculous. You may want to consider cultural diversity before replying with what could be construed as offensive comments.
I have no problem with being polite. I just think that the language was a bit excessive.
Matt Flaschen
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
Very likely just a matter of being on a low bandwidth connection. Not very uncommon in India even for educational institutions.
Rahul
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,
I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. I am handling computer networks for Electronics and Communication Engineering students for this semester. In order to contact networks lab i need a open source linux OS. Manyof them preferring fedora, I wish to work on fedora linux. It is very very difficult for me to download form the website directly. Please send me a copy of federo linux to my following office address:
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
Very likely just a matter of being on a low bandwidth connection. Not very uncommon in India even for educational institutions.
ok, that works for me. sorry to have ruffled any feathers out there.
rday --
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Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Thierry Sayegh De Bellis wrote:
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
Matt Flaschen
Since when being formal and polite is ridiculous. You may want to consider cultural diversity before replying with what could be construed as offensive comments.
I have no problem with being polite. I just think that the language was a bit excessive.
I understand it looks odd to you but it is a cultural difference primarily.
Rahul
I have no problem with being polite. I just think that the language was a bit excessive.
Matt Flaschen
I think it's not from the OP cultural context.
I got used to the difference in formality levels through working in megacorps and dealing with people from a far and wide international background.
It may sound excessive to you but this is all but cultural difference :)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam,
.
not to make light of this, but how is it that you are "handling computer networks" in a "reputed engineering college" and are unable to download a copy of fedora? that just seems weird.
Very likely just a matter of being on a low bandwidth connection. Not very uncommon in India even for educational institutions.
ok, that works for me. sorry to have ruffled any feathers out there.
I was more taken by not having followed the "want free Fedora media" links which seem to be all over the obvious web pages. If you click "get fedora" off the www.fedora.redhat.com page and have the technical acumen to scroll down a page it's there, and in other places as well.
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
Having worked with Indians I can say that the tone of many sounds somewhat formal and stilted to Americans. Not an indication of much other than his English is better than my {insert any dialect in common Indian use here}. ;-)
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
Senthil Kumar wrote:
Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college.
Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Progr... . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of.
Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime.
I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said.
Having worked with Indians I can say that the tone of many sounds somewhat formal and stilted to Americans. Not an indication of much other than his English is better than my {insert any dialect in common Indian use here}. ;-)
all right, i'm sorry i brought it up. :-) it was just a throwaway comment. as penance, i will go out tonight and indulge in some unspeakably hot curry, and you can pretend that i won't enjoy it.
rday --
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote: <snip>
Since when being formal and polite is ridiculous. You may want to consider cultural diversity before replying with what could be construed as offensive comments.
I have no problem with being polite. I just think that the language was a bit excessive.
I understand it looks odd to you but it is a cultural difference primarily.
Rahul
The cultural difference is already shown by the way the OP addresses the intended audience: "Respected Sir/Madam". And he got hammered in return because of the lack of understanding of how things work in his world. The world is not the same outside our borders. There are many countries were the resources are not as readily available as they are for us.
~af
On Wednesday 25 February 2009, Aldo Foot wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
<snip>
Since when being formal and polite is ridiculous. You may want to consider cultural diversity before replying with what could be construed as offensive comments.
I have no problem with being polite. I just think that the language was a bit excessive.
I understand it looks odd to you but it is a cultural difference primarily.
Rahul
The cultural difference is already shown by the way the OP addresses the intended audience: "Respected Sir/Madam". And he got hammered in return because of the lack of understanding of how things work in his world. The world is not the same outside our borders. There are many countries were the resources are not as readily available as they are for us.
~af
I would also interject here that the "Respected Sir/Madam" bit is a plus point for spam as its used the most often as the greeting in a phishing or 419 message. Some of those are so plainly so that they get drug-n-dropped into my spam folder, to be used as training for sa-learn -spam that I run daily with cron. I have to admit I was reaching for the mouse when the rest of the message finally registered.
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