Fedora 22 WS live i686 fails

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

I tried to start Fedora 22 WS live i686 (from a DVD that I burned) on 2 different machines
and it failed with the message:
Could not boot
/dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-Live-WS-i686-22-3 does not exist
/dev/mapper/live-rw does not exit

I burned 2 DVDs with the same issue!

Thank for your help.

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
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[g]

On 07/27/15 16:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tried to start Fedora 22 WS live i686 (from a DVD that I burned) on 2 different machines
> and it failed with the message:
> Could not boot
> /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-Live-WS-i686-22-3 does not exist
> /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exit
>
> I burned 2 DVDs with the same issue!

did you run checksum on iso before burning?

are you burning cl or gui?

try burning at 2 speeds slower to test dvd's and burner.
> Thank for your help.

hth.

[JD]

On 07/27/2015 08:40 PM, g wrote:
> On 07/27/15 16:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tried to start Fedora 22 WS live i686 (from a DVD that I burned) on 2 different machines
> > and it failed with the message:
> > Could not boot
> > /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-Live-WS-i686-22-3 does not exist
> > /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exit
> >
> > I burned 2 DVDs with the same issue!
>
> did you run checksum on iso before burning?
>
> are you burning cl or gui?
>
> try burning at 2 speeds slower to test dvd's and burner.
> > Thank for your help.
>
> hth.

Another check should be done when the dvd is booted and anaconda
prompts the user to check the media. If that check fails, then, perhaps
a. bad burn
b. bad media
c. bad download
d. flaky dvd drive

[Patrick Dupre]

===========================================================================
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 4:46 AM
> From: jd1008 
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Fedora 22 WS live i686 fails
>
> On 07/27/2015 08:40 PM, g wrote:
> > On 07/27/15 16:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I tried to start Fedora 22 WS live i686 (from a DVD that I burned) on 2 different machines
> > > and it failed with the message:
> > > Could not boot
> > > /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-Live-WS-i686-22-3 does not exist
> > > /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exit
> > >
> > > I burned 2 DVDs with the same issue!
> >
> > did you run checksum on iso before burning?

YES
> > are you burning cl or gui?

GUI (k3d)
> > try burning at 2 speeds slower to test dvd's and burner.

The speed is auto (x4 if I am correct)
> > > Thank for your help.
> >
> > hth.
>
> Another check should be done when the dvd is booted and anaconda
> prompts the user to check the media. If that check fails, then, perhaps
> a. bad burn

It success
> b. bad media

I tried 2 types of media already
> c. bad download

!!
> d. flaky dvd drive

I never had any problem before with this burner or DVDs
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[g]

On 07/28/15 02:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 4:46 AM jd1008 wrote
> > On 07/27/2015 08:40 PM, g wrote:
> > > On 07/27/15 16:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I tried to start Fedora 22 WS live i686 (from a DVD that I burned)
> > > > on 2 different machines and it failed with the message:
> > > > Could not boot
> > > > /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-Live-WS-i686-22-3 does not exist
> > > > /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exit
> > > >
> > > > I burned 2 DVDs with the same issue!
> > >
> > > did you run checksum on iso before burning?
>
> YES

.
ok.
> > > are you burning cl or gui?
>
> GUI (k3d)

.
ok.
> > > try burning at 2 speeds slower to test dvd's and burner.
>
> The speed is auto (x4 if I am correct)

.
such would mean either your burner or dvd's are 4x. if both are above
4x, it would tend to indicate burner problem, or it is an early model.

manually drop to 2x to see if new burn will boot.

<<>>>
> > Another check should be done when the dvd is booted and anaconda
> > prompts the user to check the media. If that check fails, then, perhaps
> > a. bad burn
>
> It success
> > b. bad media
>
> I tried 2 types of media already
> > c. bad download
>
> !!
> > d. flaky dvd drive
>
> I never had any problem before with this burner or DVDs

.
a burner can go bad while burning or reading a dvd. more often when
burning. main cause of problems is laser fails, usually from higher
wattage used during burn.

optical disk burners are strange devices with stranger habits.

another test is to burn a different live iso. something that you
have burned before and had good results, _and_ is of early "/dev"
configuration.

because you have 2 machines, try burning dvd on 2nd box.

dvd's not being from reputable maker can also cause problems.

today's run of dvd-r disk are usually of 16x speed, where as burners
are 24x. [do not ask. i wonder why myself.]

current prices for good dvd burners are around $20 for internal and
external usb. just decide what your time and peace of mind are worth.

when buying a new burner, remember you want dvd-r to match dvd-r blanks.

[Patrick Dupre]

Yes it is an issue between burners.

I cannot switch from one (burning) and another one (read)!!!
The reason that I a doing that is the network, good compare with bad!
Even if the DVD is checked, it does not mean that it is going to work!
> dvd's not being from reputable maker can also cause problems.

Philips, Imation, Sony?
> when buying a new burner, remember you want dvd-r to match dvd-r blanks

What does it mean?

Thank

===========================================================================
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 6:16 AM
> From: g 
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Fedora 22 WS live i686 fails
>
> On 07/28/15 02:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 4:46 AM jd1008 wrote
> > > On 07/27/2015 08:40 PM, g wrote:
> > > > On 07/27/15 16:44, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to start Fedora 22 WS live i686 (from a DVD that I burned)
> > > > > on 2 different machines and it failed with the message:
> > > > > Could not boot
> > > > > /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-Live-WS-i686-22-3 does not exist
> > > > > /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exit
> > > > >
> > > > > I burned 2 DVDs with the same issue!
> > > >
> > > > did you run checksum on iso before burning?
> >
> > YES
>
> .
> ok.
> > > > are you burning cl or gui?
> >
> > GUI (k3d)
>
> .
> ok.
> > > > try burning at 2 speeds slower to test dvd's and burner.
> >
> > The speed is auto (x4 if I am correct)
>
> .
> such would mean either your burner or dvd's are 4x. if both are above
> 4x, it would tend to indicate burner problem, or it is an early model.
>
> manually drop to 2x to see if new burn will boot.
>
> <<>>>
> > > Another check should be done when the dvd is booted and anaconda
> > > prompts the user to check the media. If that check fails, then, perhaps
> > > a. bad burn
> >
> > It success
> > > b. bad media
> >
> > I tried 2 types of media already
> > > c. bad download
> >
> > !!
> > > d. flaky dvd drive
> >
> > I never had any problem before with this burner or DVDs
>
> .
> a burner can go bad while burning or reading a dvd. more often when
> burning. main cause of problems is laser fails, usually from higher
> wattage used during burn.
>
> optical disk burners are strange devices with stranger habits.
>
> another test is to burn a different live iso. something that you
> have burned before and had good results, _and_ is of early "/dev"
> configuration.
>
> because you have 2 machines, try burning dvd on 2nd box.
>
> dvd's not being from reputable maker can also cause problems.
>
> today's run of dvd-r disk are usually of 16x speed, where as burners
> are 24x. [do not ask. i wonder why myself.]
>
> current prices for good dvd burners are around $20 for internal and
> external usb. just decide what your time and peace of mind are worth.
>
> when buying a new burner, remember you want dvd-r to match dvd-r blanks.
>
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[g]

On 07/29/15 01:55, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Yes it is an issue between burners.
>
> I cannot switch from one (burning) and another one (read)!!!

.
is this problem reversible? ie, neither can read the other?

this is may be due to track alignment between to drives.
> The reason that I a doing that is the network, good compare with bad!
> Even if the DVD is checked, it does not mean that it is going to work!

.
it may be better if you consider using a boot/install usb flash memory.
over the past year, i have moved away from optical as i find usb the way
to go. i still use dvd to archiving.

"unetbootlin" and "live usb creator" are great programs to use.
> > dvd's not being from reputable maker can also cause problems.
>
> Philips, Imation, Sony?

.
nothing wrong with those names. maybe age, but not names.

same applies to blanks. i have used memorex for years and their optical
disk are as good as their magnet tapes that i have used from mid 60's.
"Is it live, or is it Memorex?" a very true slogan. ;-)
> > when buying a new burner, remember you want dvd-r to match dvd-r blanks
>
> What does it mean?

.
thru out my years of playing with computers, i have read many articles on
what lead up to the current day optical disk and drives from their first
concept during early 70's when i built my first computer, an s100 system.

there has been little change from original, but a whole lot of improvement.

instead of trying to explain, i believe it would be easier to understand if
you rely on the informative from wikipedia.org as it is too much to try to
condense in a post.

the drive;
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc_drive

the disk;
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc

types of disk;
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Optical_storage_media

use last link to locate info for the various disk types.

[g]

On 07/29/15 03:34, g wrote:
<<>>
> > > when buying a new burner, remember you want dvd-r to match dvd-r blanks
> >
> > What does it mean?
>
> thru out my years of playing with computers, i have read many articles on
> what lead up to the current day optical disk and drives from their first
> concept during early 70's when i built my first computer, an s100 system.
>
> there has been little change from original, but a whole lot of improvement.
>
> instead of trying to explain, i believe it would be easier to understand if
> you rely on the informative from wikipedia.org as it is too much to try to
> condense in a post.
>
> the drive;
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc_drive
>
> the disk;
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc
>
> types of disk;
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Optical_storage_media
>
> use last link to locate info for the various disk types.

i woke up a couple hours ago and thought i would do some searching for
dvd-r and dvd+r, both drives and disks.

nothing new, dvd+r still has a different/better format than dvd-r. :-)

also did some searching on drives to find that with today's newer drives,
there is a greater availability of drives with combinations of r/w, -r/+r,
as well as 'dual layer', blu-ray and hd.

so, if you go with a new drive, note what type it is and that you can still
use disks that you have.

as for disk media, it seems that better quality disks are still from
japan.