Upgrading from 6 to 7

[George Hare]

Hi all,

I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this still a
big risk with the
dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like them.
> From alot of

opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it sounds like
I might as well just
stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?

Thanks,

George Hare

[David]

on 7/1/2007 6:09 PM, George Hare wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this still a
> big risk with the
> dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like them.
> > From alot of
>
> opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it sounds like
> I might as well just
> stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?

What you will see here are problems that some people are having. Some with
packages. Some with configurations. Some with hardware. All problems.

Seldom, almost never, will you see anyone email the list saying that they
have *no* problems.

YMMV but I have not had any problems.

[Ed Greshko]

David Boles wrote:
> on 7/1/2007 6:09 PM, George Hare wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this still a
> > big risk with the
> > dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like them.
> > > From alot of
> >
> > opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it sounds like
> > I might as well just
> > stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?
>
> What you will see here are problems that some people are having. Some with
> packages. Some with configurations. Some with hardware. All problems.
>
> Seldom, almost never, will you see anyone email the list saying that they
> have *no* problems.
>
> YMMV but I have not had any problems.

0 problems here as well....

[Vassilios Kotoulas]

On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 21:09 -0400, George Hare wrote:
> I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this
> still a big risk with the
> dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like
> them. From alot of
> opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it
> sounds like I might as well just 
> stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?

I upgraded from FC5 directly to F7 and after understanding that my IDE
disks are now scsi disks ;) everything worked as designed. No problem.

Regards
Vassilios

[Jim Cornette]

George Hare wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this 
> still a big risk with the
> dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like 
> them. From alot of
> opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it sounds 
> like I might as well just
> stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Hare

I have everything up to F7 or development. F7 seems better than FC6 was 
but I have nothing left to compare F7 to FC6.

- No problems at all with a fresh install on a laptop.
- A lot of missing programs from an FC6 install which were not available 
on the F7 DVD hampered things on an upgrade. mc, k3b and a few other 
programs were no on the DVD and needed grabbed from the "Everything" 
repositories to get these programs updated. (Not an installation that 
has direct network access)
- For an FC6 installation on a drive setup earlier, I lost that install 
version due to the protected area being honored now for partitions. It 
is now my development version. Everything is default and I didn't want 
to bother with setting up everything on a new install from scratch, thus 
it is development. No problems with development as of yet, though I 
update about once a month when problems are low.
- For the development version, it is now F7 as far as repos and packages 
unless there were regressions for F7 during test. It worked so well that 
I decided not to keep running it development.

So depending on what you install, when your disk partitions were setup, 
if you use device names instead of LABEL= you may or may not have issues 
with upgrades. They are possible though fresh installs work bu are 
vacant from some favorite packages which used to be part of core before 
the merge.

Emailing from the development version if that helps you decide if F7 is 
worth the upgrade. (Newer and more experimental version)

Jim

[Brian]

Jim Cornette wrote:
> George Hare wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this 
> > still a big risk with the
> > dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I 
> > like them. From alot of
> > opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it 
> > sounds like I might as well just
> > stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > George Hare
>
> I have everything up to F7 or development. F7 seems better than FC6 
> was but I have nothing left to compare F7 to FC6.
> No problems at all with a fresh install on a laptop.
> A lot of missing programs from an FC6 install which were not
>
> available on the F7 DVD hampered things on an upgrade. mc, k3b and a 
> few other programs were no on the DVD and needed grabbed from the 
> "Everything" repositories to get these programs updated. (Not an 
> installation that has direct network access)
> For an FC6 installation on a drive setup earlier, I lost that
>
> install version due to the protected area being honored now for 
> partitions. It is now my development version. Everything is default 
> and I didn't want to bother with setting up everything on a new 
> install from scratch, thus it is development. No problems with 
> development as of yet, though I update about once a month when 
> problems are low.
> For the development version, it is now F7 as far as repos and
>
> packages unless there were regressions for F7 during test. It worked 
> so well that I decided not to keep running it development.
>
> So depending on what you install, when your disk partitions were 
> setup, if you use device names instead of LABEL= you may or may not 
> have issues with upgrades. They are possible though fresh installs 
> work bu are vacant from some favorite packages which used to be part 
> of core before the merge.
>
> Emailing from the development version if that helps you decide if F7 
> is worth the upgrade. (Newer and more experimental version)
>
> Jim

I upgraded from FC6 to 7 and did have a problem when updating the F7 
installation via yum. I included the error message below. I ended up 
performing a fresh install of F7. Aside from that, F7 has been great so 
far. I'm eager to see how MythTV and Firewire work on this system as 
I've heard some (negative) remarks about the Firewire stack. We'll see.

Transaction Check Error:
 file /sbin/mkinitrd from install of mkinitrd-6.0.9-7.1 conflicts with 
file from package mkinitrd-5.1.19.0.3-1

[Jim Cornette]

Brian wrote:
> I upgraded from FC6 to 7 and did have a problem when updating the F7 
> installation via yum. I included the error message below. I ended up 
> performing a fresh install of F7. Aside from that, F7 has been great so 
> far. I'm eager to see how MythTV and Firewire work on this system as 
> I've heard some (negative) remarks about the Firewire stack. We'll see.
>
> Transaction Check Error:
> file /sbin/mkinitrd from install of mkinitrd-6.0.9-7.1 conflicts with 
> file from package mkinitrd-5.1.19.0.3-1

I believe I had that message regarding mkinitrd so I just upgraded 
mkinitrd to get past that error. I was using yum to upgrade. If you were 
using the installer, I am not sure if you could have used rpm to upgrade 
the related files before running the installer to upgrade the system.

It sounds like a bug in the installer. There should only be one version, 
but it sounds like it wants to install vs. upgrade the package with 
large group of updated packages and install for the kernel. The bug 
seems to be yum related which the installer uses now. (with pros and 
cons from previous update mechanisms.)

Jim

[Karl Larsen]

George Hare wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this 
> still a big risk with the
> dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like 
> them. From alot of
> opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it 
> sounds like I might as well just
> stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> George Hare

Hi George, I just went from 6 to 7 the painless way. Today we have 
HUGE hard drives. So what I did was load Fedora 7 in another partition. 
I did a full new load not an upgrade.

Once it is up you can put a line in your /etc/fstab file that makes 
mounting your fc6 to your new f7 easy and just move the stuff you want 
from 6 to 7. You get to pick and choose what you want on your new 7.

Karl

[Paul Smith]

On 7/2/07, Karl Larsen  wrote:
> > I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this
> > still a big risk with the
> > dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like
> > them. From alot of
> > opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it
> > sounds like I might as well just
> > stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > George Hare
> Hi George, I just went from 6 to 7 the painless way. Today we have
>
> HUGE hard drives. So what I did was load Fedora 7 in another partition.
> I did a full new load not an upgrade.
> Once it is up you can put a line in your /etc/fstab file that makes
>
> mounting your fc6 to your new f7 easy and just move the stuff you want
> from 6 to 7. You get to pick and choose what you want on your new 7.

Here, the F7 installation dvd does not simply install anything, as the
F7 kernel is buggy:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242229

Paul

[Karl Larsen]

Paul Smith wrote:
> On 7/2/07, Karl Larsen  wrote:
> > > I just read where someone upgraded from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Is this
> > > still a big risk with the
> > > dependency issues. I have most things fairly stable and the way I like
> > > them. From alot of
> > > opinions that I have read over the past couple of weeks here, it
> > > sounds like I might as well just
> > > stay with 6. I'm starting to get figure-it-out-burn-out. Any Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > George Hare
> > Hi George, I just went from 6 to 7 the painless way. Today we have
> >
> > HUGE hard drives. So what I did was load Fedora 7 in another partition.
> > I did a full new load not an upgrade.
> > Once it is up you can put a line in your /etc/fstab file that makes
> >
> > mounting your fc6 to your new f7 easy and just move the stuff you want
> > from 6 to 7. You get to pick and choose what you want on your new 7.
>
> Here, the F7 installation dvd does not simply install anything, as the
> F7 kernel is buggy:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242229
>
> Paul

Hi Paul, the 47 updates include another kernel. I hope this one will 
be a keeper. What did you find wrong with the older one?

Karl

Upps I will go to Bugzilla. Thanks