Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I
upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.

I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at least
4GB RAM.

Is there any Linux distro similar to Fedora that works for 1.99 GB RAM?

I'd love to use KDE, although if it really doesn't work, I could also
settle for Xfce.

Thanks!

Best,
     Oliver

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Oliver Ruebenacker  writes:
> I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I
> upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.
> I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> least 4GB RAM.

My trusty laptop which I have been updating since FC4 max's out at 2GB.
Once booted, Cinammon logins work just fine as long as one doesn't run
any memory pig (like Google Chrome with Adblock active).  That pushes
things over the edge by a small amount of memory.  Closing Chrome gets
me back under the magic 2GB boundry and things run at normal speed
again.

Booting does rattle the disk quite a bit.  I assume it is swapping, but
I've learned to turn the laptop on before going to the kitchen to make
coffee.  The laptop is always up and running by the time coffee is
done. ;-)

Why not try installing F20 and see if it works for you?

-wolfgang

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

Actually, I must have misread something - now I see in the release notes
the minimum for Fedora 20 is 1GB system memory. So I should be fine then!

Sorry for the noise!

Best,
     Oliver

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker 
wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I
> upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.
>
> I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> least 4GB RAM.
>
> Is there any Linux distro similar to Fedora that works for 1.99 GB RAM?
>
> I'd love to use KDE, although if it really doesn't work, I could also
> settle for Xfce.
>
> Thanks!
>  Best,
>  Oliver
>
> --
> Oliver Ruebenacker
> Founder at Relomics Consulting http://www.relomics.com
> Be always grateful, but never satisfied.

[itamar]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker  wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> Actually, I must have misread something - now I see in the release notes
> the minimum for Fedora 20 is 1GB system memory. So I should be fine then!
>
> Sorry for the noise!
>  Best,
>  Oliver
>
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker 
> wrote:
> >  Hello,
> >
> > I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I
> > upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.
> >
> > I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> > least 4GB RAM.
> >
> > Is there any Linux distro similar to Fedora that works for 1.99 GB RAM?
> >
> > I'd love to use KDE, although if it really doesn't work, I could also
> > settle for Xfce.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >  Best,
> >  Oliver

try centos

------------

Itamar Reis Peixoto

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS. rules out
latest Fedora and Centos.

Best,
     Oliver

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Itamar Reis Peixoto <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker 
> wrote:
> >  Hello,
> >
> > Actually, I must have misread something - now I see in the release
>
> notes
> > the minimum for Fedora 20 is 1GB system memory. So I should be fine then!
> >
> > Sorry for the noise!
> >  Best,
> >  Oliver
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker 
> > wrote:
> > >  Hello,
> > >
> > > I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I
> > > upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.
> > >
> > > I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> > > least 4GB RAM.
> > >
> > > Is there any Linux distro similar to Fedora that works for 1.99 GB
>
> RAM?
> > > I'd love to use KDE, although if it really doesn't work, I could also
> > > settle for Xfce.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >  Best,
> > >  Oliver
>
> try centos
> Itamar Reis Peixoto
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[Ed Greshko]

On 06/01/14 07:43, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS. rules out latest Fedora and Centos

What do you mean by that?   Fedora and Centos both come in 32bit and 64bit flavors.

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 06/01/14 07:43, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS. rules out
>
> latest Fedora and Centos
>
> What do you mean by that?   Fedora and Centos both come in 32bit and 64bit
> flavors.

They do? I only found a 64 bit version on Fedora Project website, and
they write there http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora: "What will I
need? [...] 64-bit Intel-compatible PC".

Do you have a link to 32 bit Fedora or CentOs?

Thanks!

Best,
     Oliver
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[Doug]

On 05/31/2014 07:43 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS. rules 
> out latest Fedora and Centos.
>  Best,
>  Oliver

How about a "light" PCLinuxOS? LXDE? Here's a basic spec from the website:

Release Date: 04-29-2014
*LXDE32 Desktop* (pclinuxos-LXDE-2014.05.iso)
Size: 647 MB
Produced by: Pinoc
User Level: Intermediate, Advanced

or go to http://www.pclinuxos.com/get-pclinuxos/lxde/ from where you can 
download it.

I'm pretty sure you can move the top "tray" or eliminate it and put the 
icons on the bottom
tray, so it doesn't look peculiar.

PCLOS has a really excellent forum, with devs on it and quick turn-arounds.

--doug--PCLOS (KDE) user for four years; previously SuSE user.

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker 
wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Ed Greshko 
> wrote:
> > On 06/01/14 07:43, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > > The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS. rules out
> >
> > latest Fedora and Centos
> >
> > What do you mean by that?   Fedora and Centos both come in 32bit and
> > 64bit flavors.
>
> They do? I only found a 64 bit version on Fedora Project website, and
> they write there http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora: "What will I
> need? [...] 64-bit Intel-compatible PC".
>
> Do you have a link to 32 bit Fedora or CentOs?

OK, found it http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora#formats.

Best,
     Oliver
> Thanks!
>  Best,
>  Oliver
>
>
> > --
> > Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own.
> > You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis
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>
> --
> Oliver Ruebenacker
> Founder at Relomics Consulting http://www.relomics.com
> Be always grateful, but never satisfied.

[Sudhir Khanger]

On Jun 1, 2014 2:25 AM, "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht"  wrote:
> Oliver Ruebenacker  writes:
> > I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I
> > upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.
> > I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> > least 4GB RAM.
>
> My trusty laptop which I have been updating since FC4 max's out at 2GB.
> Once booted, Cinammon logins work just fine as long as one doesn't run
> any memory pig (like Google Chrome with Adblock active).  That pushes
> things over the edge by a small amount of memory.  Closing Chrome gets
> me back under the magic 2GB boundry and things run at normal speed
> again.
>
> Booting does rattle the disk quite a bit.  I assume it is swapping, but
> I've learned to turn the laptop on before going to the kitchen to make
> coffee.  The laptop is always up and running by the time coffee is
> done. ;-)
>
> Why not try installing F20 and see if it works for you?
> -wolfgang
>
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Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server? I am asking
because Google shows a warning that they can't verify if this message was
sent by the wsrcc.com.

And OP you should install Fedora using minimal install with LXQt to keep
using some part of KDE.

-Sudhir.

[nomnex]

> On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:20:00 -0400
> Oliver Ruebenacker  wrote:

<snip>
> > > On 06/01/14 07:43, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > > > The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS.
> > > > rules out
> > >
> > > latest Fedora and Centos

For info. I use Fedora 20 LXDE on my >10 years old notebooks.
A Pentium IV like yours with 1 GB ram (max).

I have another notebook (2003) a Pentium M with 512 MB ram
(max). It runs Fedora 15. I will update to F20 LXDE this month. I just
change the ram min. required by the installer, since version 14.

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server? I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com http://wsrcc.com.

You get this warning because of this header in the email.....

Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of [e-mail] designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=[e-mail];
       dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@;
       dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com

I've not looked into it....but I don't think dkim/dmarc works very well with mailing lists.

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 06/01/2014 04:34 AM, nomnex wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 May 2014 20:20:00 -0400
> > Oliver Ruebenacker  wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > > > On 06/01/14 07:43, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > > > > The problem is that I have Pentium 4, so I need a 32 bit OS.
> > > > > rules out
> > > >
> > > > latest Fedora and Centos

Just try - Fedora 20 installed fine on all 2GB RAM machines, I've tried.
> I have another notebook (2003) a Pentium M with 512 MB ram
> (max). It runs Fedora 15. I will update to F20 LXDE this month. I just
> change the ram min. required by the installer, since version 14.

I run Fedora 20 on a Pentium IV with 512 MB RAM, also. The F20-installer 
didn't work, but gradually upgrading from older Fedora releases worked.

Ralf

[Roger]

Just try - Fedora 20 installed fine on all 2GB RAM machines, I've tried.

Yep, I too run Fedora 20 x86_64 on my 2gig memory desktop and on the 2 
gig Dell 1520 laptop.
Installed no problems, works a treat.

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

I downloaded and verified the DVD image for Fedora 20, 32bit. Burned two
DVDs already, but neither will boot. I get a black screen with a blinking
cursor in the corner for a while, and then it will skip the DVD. If I
disable all other boot devices, it will say no OS has been found.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

Best,
     Oliver

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Roger  wrote:
> Just try - Fedora 20 installed fine on all 2GB RAM machines, I've tried.
>
> Yep, I too run Fedora 20 x86_64 on my 2gig memory desktop and on the 2 gig
> Dell 1520 laptop.
> Installed no problems, works a treat.
>
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[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/31/2014 04:36 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> I need a new OS for an old computer, an about 10 years old x86. I 
> upgraded RAM from 500MB to 2GB, though Windows XP reports 1.99 GB.
>
> I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at 
> least 4GB RAM.
>
> Is there any Linux distro similar to Fedora that works for 1.99 GB RAM?
>
> I'd love to use KDE, although if it really doesn't work, I could 
> also settle for Xfce.

I regularly run Fedora AND Centos on older systems, but normally only 5 
years old.  Both continue to support 32 bit and as long as memory is 
really 1GB install graphically just fine.  If memory is less, then they 
go to text based install.

Further, although RHEL7 is saying 64 bit only, there will be a Centos 7 
SIG that will do a 32 bit version.

So you should be fine.

[Robert Moskowitz]

Try LiveCD and see if it will boot without trying to install.

There is one possible issue in that the base is really i686 these days 
and you really might be too old of a processor.

On 06/01/2014 07:19 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>  Hello,
>
> I downloaded and verified the DVD image for Fedora 20, 32bit. Burned 
> two DVDs already, but neither will boot. I get a black screen with a 
> blinking cursor in the corner for a while, and then it will skip the 
> DVD. If I disable all other boot devices, it will say no OS has been 
> found.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
>  Best,
>  Oliver
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Roger <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> Just try - Fedora 20 installed fine on all 2GB RAM machines, I've
> tried.
>
> Yep, I too run Fedora 20 x86_64 on my 2gig memory desktop and on
> the 2 gig Dell 1520 laptop.
> Installed no problems, works a treat.
>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Oliver Ruebenacker
> Founder at Relomics Consulting http://www.relomics.com
> Be always grateful, but never satisfied.

[nomnex]

> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:35:43 -0400
> Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
>
> Try LiveCD and see if it will boot without trying to install.

And see bug comment 4 or 21 if you are low on RAM

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708966

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

Hello,

Yay, I was able to install 32-bit Fedora 20 with KDE on my old machine
via netinstal CD, even in less than an hour. So far, runs fine, although
certainly not blazing fast.

I think the problem was that my optical drive is somehow limited in what
it can do with DVDs. I very vaguely remember that, I think, it can only
play movies from them. For sure, I couldn't mount the Fedora DVDs, but I'm
not sure whether Windows XP is supposed to be able to do that anyway.

Also, on closer look, the entry "removable" in the BIOS boot sequence did
not, as I first assumed, refer to USB drives, but to the floppy disk drive.

Best,
     Oliver

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 8:05 AM, nomnex  wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:35:43 -0400
> > Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> >
> > Try LiveCD and see if it will boot without trying to install.
>
> And see bug comment 4 or 21 if you are low on RAM
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708966
>
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[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 01 June 2014, Oliver Ruebenacker sent:
> For sure, I couldn't mount the Fedora DVDs, but I'm not sure whether
> Windows XP is supposed to be able to do that anyway.

Yes, it can.  They're just a bootable disc with files on them.

mailing list errors (was: Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?)

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Sudhir Khanger  writes:
> Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server? I am
> asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify if this
> message was sent by the wsrcc.com.

Sudhir, thanks for noticing and speaking up!

Not totally off topic.   The issue is that the mailing list software
that fedora uses is an old version that still re-writes the body and
subject yet keeps the "From:" address.   Modern mailers that receive
mail can verify this tampering and will mark the message as such.

The magic is done via the DKIM header in the message as well as the SPF
and DMARC records I publish for wsrcc.com .   Yes I know that will cause
problems for my posts to this mailinglist.   Hopefully when the mailman
software is updated on lists.fedoraproject.org this problem will go away.

(The wsrcc.com domain is 24 years old and is on many spam email lists as
a potential source of forged "From:" addresses.  I see a small, but to
me, annoying 40 messages per day forged with my address.  I want it to
stop and this setting is doing wonders and dissuading spammers from using
my address.)

Probably more than you wanted to know.

-wolfgang

[Doug]

On 06/01/2014 04:52 PM, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 01 June 2014, Oliver Ruebenacker sent:
> > For sure, I couldn't mount the Fedora DVDs, but I'm not sure whether
> > Windows XP is supposed to be able to do that anyway.
>
> Yes, it can.  They're just a bootable disc with files on them.

Have you set the preferred boot sequence in the BIOS of
your machine so it looks first to the CD-ROM to boot?
You MUST do that or it will never boot on the CD.

--doug

mailinglist issues (Was: Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?)

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Ed Greshko  writes:
> On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>     Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server?
> I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify
> if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com.
>
> You get this warning because of this header in the email.....
>
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>        spf=pass (google.com: domain of [e-mail] designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=[e-mail];
>        dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@;
>        dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com

Bingo.  Right on the money.
> I've not looked into it....but I don't think dkim/dmarc works very
> well with mailing lists.

It can.  Mailman has already been changed to take ownership of the
"From:" line pointing it to some list-owned address and injecting a
reply-to optionally to allow unicast msgs to work too.

The problem is that mailing lists forging From addresses looks the same
to software as a spammer forging the same.  No progress is going to be
made till mailing lists stop doing that.

-wolfgang

mailinglist issues (Was: Fedora-like Linux for 1.99GB RAM?)

[Suvayu Ali]

On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 03:28:24PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Ed Greshko  writes:
> > On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> >     Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server?
> > I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify
> > if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com.
> >
> > You get this warning because of this header in the email.....
> >
> > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
> >        spf=pass (google.com: domain of [e-mail] designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=[e-mail];
> >        dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@;
> >        dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com
>
> Bingo.  Right on the money.
> > I've not looked into it....but I don't think dkim/dmarc works very
> > well with mailing lists.
>
> It can.  Mailman has already been changed to take ownership of the
> "From:" line pointing it to some list-owned address and injecting a
> reply-to optionally to allow unicast msgs to work too.
>
> The problem is that mailing lists forging From addresses looks the same
> to software as a spammer forging the same.  No progress is going to be
> made till mailing lists stop doing that.

I guess this explains why a lot of mailinglist posts started going to
spam on Gmail recently (including this message).  This started about 2
months ago.

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[David]

On 6/2/2014 3:30 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 03:28:24PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> > Ed Greshko  writes:
> > > On 06/01/14 10:14, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
> > >     Off topic. Is this email sent from your personal email server?
> > > I am asking because Google shows a warning that they can't verify
> > > if this message was sent by the wsrcc.com.
> > >
> > > You get this warning because of this header in the email.....
> > >
> > > Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
> > >        spf=pass (google.com: domain of [e-mail] designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=[e-mail];
> > >        dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@;
> > >        dmarc=fail (p=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=wsrcc.com
> >
> > Bingo.  Right on the money.
> > > I've not looked into it....but I don't think dkim/dmarc works very
> > > well with mailing lists.
> >
> > It can.  Mailman has already been changed to take ownership of the
> > "From:" line pointing it to some list-owned address and injecting a
> > reply-to optionally to allow unicast msgs to work too.
> >
> > The problem is that mailing lists forging From addresses looks the same
> > to software as a spammer forging the same.  No progress is going to be
> > made till mailing lists stop doing that.
>
> I guess this explains why a lot of mailinglist posts started going to
> spam on Gmail recently (including this message).  This started about 2
> months ago.

The only mailing list emails that Gmail sends to spam, for me, are those
that come from Linux users that have their own email server(s). And all
of those come from post to Linux mailing lists.

mailinglist issues

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

David  writes:
> The only mailing list emails that Gmail sends to spam, for me, are those
> that come from Linux users that have their own email server(s). And all
> of those come from post to Linux mailing lists.

Yahoo and AOL both have similar DMARC, DKIM, SPF settings and senders
from those domains should also go to spam (unless Gmail is special
casing them).   Although, I can't imagine there is much overlap between
AOL users and those that post to linux mailing lists.

-wolfgang

[Powell, Michael]

On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 16:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> least 4GB RAM.

2GB should be possible...

From the official Fedora 20 release notes
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_.html#hardware_overview:

Minimum System Configuration

1GHz or faster processor
1GB System Memory
10GB unallocated drive space

[Chris Murphy]

On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:25 PM, "Powell, Michael"  wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 16:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> > least 4GB RAM.
>
> 2GB should be possible...
>
> From the official Fedora 20 release notes
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_.html#hardware_overview:
>
> Minimum System Configuration
>
> 1GHz or faster processor
> 1GB System Memory
> 10GB unallocated drive space

Yes it will install and work. With a web browser it's a bit tight, and may end up swapping to disk. Neverthless, impressive, right now for me on OS X the kernel is taking up 700MB alone; and "wired" memory is 1.34GB. So yeah… oinkster.

Chris Murphy

[Sam Varshavchik]

Chris Murphy writes:
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:25 PM, "Powell, Michael"   
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 16:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > > I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> > > least 4GB RAM.
> >
> > 2GB should be possible...
> >
> > From the official Fedora 20 release notes
> > <http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-
>
> Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_.html#hardware_overview>:
> > Minimum System Configuration
> >
> > 1GHz or faster processor
> > 1GB System Memory
> > 10GB unallocated drive space
>
> Yes it will install and work. With a web browser it's a bit tight, and may  
> end up swapping to disk. Neverthless, impressive, right now for me on OS X  
> the kernel is taking up 700MB alone; and "wired" memory is 1.34GB. So yeah…  
> oinkster.

I have Fedora 20 running on a laptop with 1.5gb of RAM. Gnome desktop is  
slow, but usable.

I also have it running on an eee 900 mini-laptop, also with 1.5gb or RAM  
using the XFCE desktop. It's slow, and just bearable.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2014-06-02 at 23:47 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Chris Murphy writes:
> > On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:25 PM, "Powell, Michael"   
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 16:36 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > > > I would have installed Fedora, but they say the requirements are at
> > > > least 4GB RAM.
> > >
> > > 2GB should be possible...
> > >
> > > From the official Fedora 20 release notes
> > > <http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-
> >
> > Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_.html#hardware_overview>:
> > > Minimum System Configuration
> > >
> > > 1GHz or faster processor
> > > 1GB System Memory
> > > 10GB unallocated drive space
> >
> > Yes it will install and work. With a web browser it's a bit tight, and may  
> > end up swapping to disk. Neverthless, impressive, right now for me on OS X  
> > the kernel is taking up 700MB alone; and "wired" memory is 1.34GB. So yeah…  
> > oinkster.
>
> I have Fedora 20 running on a laptop with 1.5gb of RAM. Gnome desktop is  
> slow, but usable.
>
> I also have it running on an eee 900 mini-laptop, also with 1.5gb or RAM  
> using the XFCE desktop. It's slow, and just bearable.

Running KDE on my EEE with 2GB. Certainly slow but usable in a pinch.

poc

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 05/31/2014 11:36 PM, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> I'd love to use KDE, although if it really doesn't work, I could also
> settle for Xfce.

Fedora XFCE SPin, then: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

[Renich Bon Ciric]

http://blog.woralelandia.com/2013/09/25/howto-install-fedora-19-on-old-low-o...

Just add nomemcheck arg when you boot the livecd and give it a try.

I ended up enabling swap first and it worked fine.