When i'm using xmms and i press the pause button evolution cannot download email.
Is this a knew bug or i've got some problem on my installation?
Thanks.
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On Friday 28 November 2003 10:23, gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
When i'm using xmms and i press the pause button evolution cannot download email.
Is this a knew bug or i've got some problem on my installation?
Probably because Evo has spawned aplay/play or whatever to make a "you have mail" sound, but xmms has ahold of the /dev/dsp. (a)play then sits there waiting on its turn. Switch off mail announce sounds and it'll work.
- -Andy
gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
When i'm using xmms and i press the pause button evolution cannot download email.
Is this a knew bug or i've got some problem on my installation?
I do believe that's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
Can you provide more details about your installation?
Eg, tell us what version of XMMS and Evolution you're using, and what kind of error messages evolution gives you...
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 05:23, gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
When i'm using xmms and i press the pause button evolution cannot download email.
Is this a knew bug or i've got some problem on my installation?
It's probably esd. When you pause XMMS esd can somehow block all I/O on the screen. Eventually everything on the screen will freeze until you "killall -KILL xmms" via SSH or a console.
Try to change your "Output Plugin" in Audio I/O Preferences to use OSS instead of "eSound Output Plugin." I use the xmms-crossfade output plugin (from Fedora Stable at fedora.us).
Note: You may lose other sound events on Linux 2.4 if your sound card driver doesn't allow multiple playback streams. My Sound Blaster Live works fine since its OSS driver supports multiple (32?) simultaneous playback streams.
-- Messaggio originale -- From: Andy Green fedora@warmcat.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: xmms & evolution Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:34:19 +0000
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On Friday 28 November 2003 10:23, gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
When i'm using xmms and i press the pause button evolution cannot download email.
Is this a knew bug or i've got some problem on my installation?
Probably because Evo has spawned aplay/play or whatever to make a "you
have
mail" sound, but xmms has ahold of the /dev/dsp. (a)play then sits there
waiting on its turn. Switch off mail announce sounds and it'll work.
I switched off mail announce sounds but problem still remain. If xmms is runnig and paused evolution even doesn't start, after pressing play it start correctly. In var/log/messages i cannot see anything
gdb
P.S. I'm using
xmms-1.2.8-3.p xmms-skins-1.2.8-3.p xmms-mp3-1.2.8-3.2.fr
and
evolution-1.4.5-7
- -Andy
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On Friday 28 November 2003 11:38, gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
I switched off mail announce sounds but problem still remain. If xmms is runnig and paused evolution even doesn't start, after pressing play it start correctly. In var/log/messages i cannot see anything
I still favour the idea that Evolution is stalled waiting for audio access, because I see the same behaviour if xmms is active here and I start mplayer, it starts but there is not even a visible window for mplayer until I stop xmms.
I wonder then if it is the sound library that Evolution uses, as part of its init it wants access to the sound device?
Somebody else mentioned esd, what kind of output are you using in xmms settings? Is this in KDE? Is artsd (ugh, I don't like the idea of artsd) running if so?
- -Andy
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 04:38, gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
-- Messaggio originale -- From: Andy Green fedora@warmcat.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: xmms & evolution Reply-To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 10:34:19 +0000
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On Friday 28 November 2003 10:23, gdbnet@tin.it wrote:
When i'm using xmms and i press the pause button evolution cannot download email.
Is this a knew bug or i've got some problem on my installation?
Probably because Evo has spawned aplay/play or whatever to make a "you
have
mail" sound, but xmms has ahold of the /dev/dsp. (a)play then sits there
waiting on its turn. Switch off mail announce sounds and it'll work.
I switched off mail announce sounds but problem still remain. If xmms is runnig and paused evolution even doesn't start, after pressing play it start correctly. In var/log/messages i cannot see anything
Do you have gaim running? I've seen gaim lay siege to /dev/dsp. Often. It could be that when you pause xmms, gaim seizes the sound device. It happens to me, but it doesn't lock up.
Em Sex, 2003-11-28 às 10:23, Rob Park escreveu:
It's probably esd. When you pause XMMS esd can somehow block all I/O on the screen. Eventually everything on the screen will freeze until you "killall -KILL xmms" via SSH or a console.
No wonder Alan Cox loves ESD so much. :)
He's not the only one :-)
I used to have a "killall esd" icon here just to unlock mozilla from time to time... Now gone, since I'm using alsa :-)
Em Sex, 2003-11-28 às 17:27, Bill Anderson escreveu:
I switched off mail announce sounds but problem still remain. If xmms is runnig and paused evolution even doesn't start, after pressing play it start correctly. In var/log/messages i cannot see anything
Do you have gaim running? I've seen gaim lay siege to /dev/dsp. Often. It could be that when you pause xmms, gaim seizes the sound device. It happens to me, but it doesn't lock up.
This occurs when they both use esd... Gaim allow you to choose which way you play a sound. I use "command", and set it as "play %s", and together with ALSA, it can play the wav files simultaneously with xmms, mplayer (and even evolution hehehehe)
Alexandre Strube wrote:
He's not the only one :-)
I used to have a "killall esd" icon here just to unlock mozilla from time to time... Now gone, since I'm using alsa :-)
Well, I have an sblive, so my /dev/dsp can handle multiple sounds at once... which means I hate alsa because it's needless complication, and I hate esd because it's awful (XMMS's little visualisation window is out of sync with the music when it uses esd). So, gaim uses command 'play', and everything else uses OSS output, as far as I know.
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:00:02PM -0700, Rob Park wrote:
Alexandre Strube wrote:
He's not the only one :-)
I used to have a "killall esd" icon here just to unlock mozilla from time to time... Now gone, since I'm using alsa :-)
Well, I have an sblive, so my /dev/dsp can handle multiple sounds at once... which means I hate alsa because it's needless complication, and I hate esd because it's awful (XMMS's little visualisation window is out of sync with the music when it uses esd). So, gaim uses command 'play', and everything else uses OSS output, as far as I know.
A user of ALSA would never, ever denigrate it as "needless complication".
Jack Bowling wrote:
A user of ALSA would never, ever denigrate it as "needless complication".
So then what does it DO? I mean, aside from duplicating hardware functionality (multiple-channel audio) in software?
I've had problems with Alsa when I first started using linux, and it really put me off ALSA. I don't see any point to having it, except for complicating things for no reason.
For me, ALSA provided my soundcard with correct functionality. For instance, before compiling in ALSA support and all that jazz, my soundcard would only play sound out of the microphone channel. After compiling it in and everything, my speakers channels play sound correctly. I'm very happy about that.
I too had a problem with ALSA in the past, but recently it seems to function without a hitch for me. I might add it worked out my emu10k1 SB Live! card pretty good too. It didn't quite function optimally previous to using ALSA.
YMMV
Alex
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:42:24PM -0700, Rob Park wrote:
Jack Bowling wrote:
A user of ALSA would never, ever denigrate it as "needless complication".
So then what does it DO? I mean, aside from duplicating hardware functionality (multiple-channel audio) in software?
I've had problems with Alsa when I first started using linux, and it really put me off ALSA. I don't see any point to having it, except for complicating things for no reason.
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On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:42:24PM -0700, Rob Park wrote:
Jack Bowling wrote:
A user of ALSA would never, ever denigrate it as "needless complication".
So then what does it DO? I mean, aside from duplicating hardware functionality (multiple-channel audio) in software?
I've had problems with Alsa when I first started using linux, and it really put me off ALSA. I don't see any point to having it, except for complicating things for no reason.
This link says it better than I ever could:
http://www.eca.cx/lad/2002/Mar/0109.html
For myself, ALSA is the only framework that handles my Extigy USB soundcard properly.
Em Ter, 2003-12-02 às 18:00, Rob Park escreveu:
Alexandre Strube wrote:
He's not the only one :-) I used to have a "killall esd" icon here just to unlock mozilla from time to time... Now gone, since I'm using alsa :-)
Well, I have an sblive, so my /dev/dsp can handle multiple sounds at once... which means I hate alsa because it's needless complication, and I hate esd because it's awful (XMMS's little visualisation window is out of sync with the music when it uses esd). So, gaim uses command 'play', and everything else uses OSS output, as far as I know.
Well, flash-player didn't. I don't know if these via 8235 sound boards can play more than one sound at once, but here it never worked on linux, so....
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