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Today's Topics:
- Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (Robert Moskowitz)
- Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup (poma)
- Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (poma)
- Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (poma)
- Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup (Michael Cronenworth)
- Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (joev.8450)
- Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup (Tim)
- javafx (Mike Wright)
- Re: javafx (Michael Cronenworth)
- Re: abrt questions?? (Cameron Simpson)
- Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird (joev.8450)
- lock screen from keyboard in ldxe (Robert Moskowitz)
- Re: OT: ssh and svn+ssh with different keys (Hiisi)
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:23:37 -0400 From: Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird Message-ID: 53D8E3C9.2070405@htt-consult.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
did you try the import/export tools extension? available at this link: https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html. btw, it doesn't come up searching for addons. i've used it several times and found it flexible and pretty straightforward.
NO, as I only searched addons. :(
regards,
Joe Verreau Durand, MI
HI, I am over in Oak Park, MI.
On 07/29/2014 02:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am asking this here, as my system is F20 with Thunderbird 24.7.0.
I have downloaded an month's archived messages for Centos-arm and want to import them into Thunderbird where I could then respond to them more easily.
I tried the Tools>Import but when I select email, nothing is listed in the dialog box. So how might I do the import? Where might i find instructions?
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:45:54 +0200 From: poma pomidorabelisima@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup Message-ID: 53D8E902.7000508@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 30.07.2014 10:28, lejeczek wrote:
hi, thanks for your input, however it does not help really linked doc? I've thumb trough it before.
let me rephrase my question - how do I put users, their whole session from the moment they login into a cgroup cpuset?
and I don't want to use libcgroup (as it not recommended anyway) but have systemd managed it.
thanks
[systemd-devel] Question: who should set up the cpuset cgroup http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-September/013271.ht...
Check "systemd Development Mailing List" http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel for news related to topic, e.g. [systemd-devel] confine user(s) to a core with systemd + cgroup http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-July/021636.html
poma
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:11:43 +0200 From: poma pomidorabelisima@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird Message-ID: 53D8EF0F.7090007@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 30.07.2014 13:21, joev.8450 wrote:
did you try the import/export tools extension? available at this link: https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html. btw, it doesn't come up searching for addons. i've used it several times and found it flexible and pretty straightforward.
ImportExportTools https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/
poma
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:33:03 +0200 From: poma pomidorabelisima@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird Message-ID: 53D8F40F.3080207@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 30.07.2014 14:23, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
did you try the import/export tools extension? available at this link: https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html. btw, it doesn't come up searching for addons. i've used it several times and found it flexible and pretty straightforward.
NO, as I only searched addons. :(
Tools -> Add-ons -> Get Add-ons(internal browser) -> See all -> "search for add-ons" <= ImportExportTools -> Add to Thunderbird
poma
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:21:05 -0500 From: Michael Cronenworth mike@cchtml.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup Message-ID: 53D8FF51.5090806@cchtml.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
On 07/30/2014 03:28 AM, lejeczek wrote:
hi, thanks for your input, however it does not help really linked doc? I've thumb trough it before.
Correct because systemd doesn't use cpusets.
let me rephrase my question - how do I put users, their whole session from the moment they login into a cgroup cpuset?
You need to configure a login script (outside of systemd) to do use cpusets. Systemd uses CPU accounting and CFS switches to break down resource throttling.
and I don't want to use libcgroup (as it not recommended anyway) but have systemd managed it.
If you want systemd to manage resources then you're stuck with the existing support, which is CPUShares. This will not have CPU limiting the way you desire.
man systemd.resource-control
The newest systemd release has a CPUQuota option that will make this work closer to what you want, but if you want true 1-core, 1-process resource limiting you're going to have to do it outside of systemd.
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 12:12:30 -0400 From: "joev.8450" joev.8450@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird Message-ID: 53D9196E.7080301@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
yea, I found it odd that this option was not listed in addon search esp when it is discussed in thunderbird support. I have also used the file copy approach which worked. Since I was moving from windows ntfs to linux fedora I went with the import/export tools extension.
regards,
Joe Verreau Durand, MI
On 07/30/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
did you try the import/export tools extension? available at this link: https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html. btw, it doesn't come up searching for addons. i've used it several times and found it flexible and pretty straightforward.
NO, as I only searched addons. :(
regards,
Joe Verreau Durand, MI
HI, I am over in Oak Park, MI.
On 07/29/2014 02:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am asking this here, as my system is F20 with Thunderbird 24.7.0.
I have downloaded an month's archived messages for Centos-arm and want to import them into Thunderbird where I could then respond to them more easily.
I tried the Tools>Import but when I select email, nothing is listed in the dialog box. So how might I do the import? Where might i find instructions?
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 02:43:15 +0930 From: Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: confine user(s) to a core with systemd + gcgroup Message-ID: 1406740395.1293.11.camel@paralytic.lan.cameratim.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Just a curiosity question: If you segregate a user to just one CPU core, does that really save a system from being crippled if they max out that core, or crash it? I'd have thought that the rest of the system would still be affected to some degree. At the least, it'd have to be completely isolated from the user's core. And it strikes that me that a user using the operating system isn't isolated, they interact with it.
-- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64
All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists.
George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments.
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:40:03 -0700 From: Mike Wright mike.wright@mailinator.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: javafx Message-ID: 53D93C03.4060100@mailinator.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Hi all,
Does anybody know of any plans to package javafx for fedora? It apparently exists somewhere in RedHat.
It provides a top level Window object for containing scenes or pop-ups.
I have an app that won't run without it.
Thanks for any information, Mike Wright
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:14:31 -0500 From: Michael Cronenworth mike@cchtml.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: javafx Message-ID: 53D94417.8060909@cchtml.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
On 07/30/2014 01:40 PM, Mike Wright wrote:
Hi all,
Does anybody know of any plans to package javafx for fedora? It apparently exists somewhere in RedHat.
It provides a top level Window object for containing scenes or pop-ups.
I have an app that won't run without it.
This mail should shed some light on the situation (summary: it's not ready for inclusion into Fedora yet):
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2013-May/004816.html
You will need to get the Oracle version of Java to use JavaFX for now.
Message: 10 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 08:42:38 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson cs@zip.com.au To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: abrt questions?? Message-ID: 20140730224238.GA84701@cskk.homeip.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
On 29Jul2014 18:19, bruce badouglas@gmail.com wrote:
hey kevin. Thanks. I'll try, we'll see what the results are!
[...]
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:01:08 -0400 bruce badouglas@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kevin, The py app is a test that we created.. I was hopeful that abrt might have stored something like, appX crashed at line Y!!
Just edit: /etc/abrt/abrt-action-save-package-data.conf
[...]
Hi bruce,
Just a tangent to this abrt stuff; you _do_ save the stderr of your python apps to log files don't you?
If the app aborts because of a regular python exception then there will be a nice stack trace in the stderr log file. Simple and direct.
Cheers, Cameron Simpson cs@zip.com.au
Message: 11 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:09:00 -0400 From: "joev.8450" joev.8450@gmail.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Importing mail archive into Thuderbird Message-ID: 53D9891C.8080103@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Robert, how ironic! In fact we used to live just south of eight mile between woodward and livernois but that was many years ago.
regards,
Joe Verreau Durand, MI
On 07/30/2014 08:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/30/2014 07:21 AM, joev.8450 wrote:
did you try the import/export tools extension? available at this link: https://freeshell.de//~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html. btw, it doesn't come up searching for addons. i've used it several times and found it flexible and pretty straightforward.
NO, as I only searched addons. :(
regards,
Joe Verreau Durand, MI
HI, I am over in Oak Park, MI.
On 07/29/2014 02:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am asking this here, as my system is F20 with Thunderbird 24.7.0.
I have downloaded an month's archived messages for Centos-arm and want to import them into Thunderbird where I could then respond to them more easily.
I tried the Tools>Import but when I select email, nothing is listed in the dialog box. So how might I do the import? Where might i find instructions?
Message: 12 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:26:35 -0400 From: Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: lock screen from keyboard in ldxe Message-ID: 53D98D3B.1040209@htt-consult.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
System is f19 remix on armv7 (Allwinner A20).
The <windows key + l> which is what I use in F20 on x86 with Gnome.
So does ldxe use a different lock screen keystroke, or is something else going on here.
Message: 13 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:43:53 +0400 From: Hiisi hiisi@fedoraproject.org To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: OT: ssh and svn+ssh with different keys Message-ID: CAPZcXwYgGZRzMcWVDZA7z89VtGZq6LygO0MYVTOCRZiDk8v08Q@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On 28 July 2014 20:54, Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com wrote:
"ssh -i <identity file name>" allows you to use a different identity than the default ~/.ssh/id_[d|r]sa" file.
Solved. The problem was that ssh-copy-id didn't copied rsa.pub. Pasted it manually to .ssh/authorized_keys on server side. Now everything works like a charm. Thanks for attention! -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: https://linuxcounter.net/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right.
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