Hi!
Long story short, my wife needs to connect to an Evolution server which webmail no longer works due to some SSL certif configuration (now only works with Explorer or Edge if I'm not mistaken).
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
Any idea or suggestion on what I could try to make it work, with F35?
Thank you.
Fred
On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 17:47 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
Hi!
Long story short, my wife needs to connect to an Evolution server which webmail no longer works due to some SSL certif configuration (now only works with Explorer or Edge if I'm not mistaken).
I'm unclear on what you mean here. Is this a case of using IMAP (or even POP) via Evolution on a webmail system such as Gmail?
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
Any idea or suggestion on what I could try to make it work, with F35?
I suggest you ask on the Evolution list (evolution-list@gnome.org), mentioning the specific version of Evo you have (see Help->About). This kind of question usually finds an answer pretty quickly.
poc
On 3/19/22 19:19, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 17:47 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
Hi!
Long story short, my wife needs to connect to an Evolution server which webmail no longer works due to some SSL certif configuration (now only works with Explorer or Edge if I'm not mistaken).
I'm unclear on what you mean here. Is this a case of using IMAP (or even POP) via Evolution on a webmail system such as Gmail?
Sorry I was trying to explain/justify why I needed (my wife) to use a mail client vs a web interface (which was working until sometimes this week). Unfortunately this no longer works, no more webmail interface on that MS Exchange server unless you can use IE or Edge.
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
Any idea or suggestion on what I could try to make it work, with F35?
I suggest you ask on the Evolution list (evolution-list@gnome.org), mentioning the specific version of Evo you have (see Help->About). This kind of question usually finds an answer pretty quickly.
OK thank you. I'll do that.
Fred
poc
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On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 17:47 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
My very brief internet search shows that there ought to be a very obvious "Exchange MAPI" server type option in the email account settings (when the plugin is installed), so that makes me think of a few things:
Perhaps your plugins weren't properly installed.
Perhaps Evolution needed to be completely quit and restarted.
Were you trying to configure a new account from scratch, or trying to change an existing mail account over to the MAPI protocol?
Also, my search suggested that evolution-mapi is outdated and replaced by evolution-ews. So, perhaps try the other plugin.
NB: I use Evolution, but not with any Exchange servers (I've never used Exchange). From what I read about exchange, it has various protocols it *can* use (IMAP, POP3, EAS, MAPI, etc), but whether *any* of them are available will depend on how the server is configured. Have you checked if MAPI is the right protocol to use with your server?
On 3/19/22 03:47, Frederic Muller wrote:
Long story short, my wife needs to connect to an Evolution server which webmail no longer works due to some SSL certif configuration (now only works with Explorer or Edge if I'm not mistaken).
Is this an internal server or office.com? I have the office.com webmail working with Chromium and it requires a specific certificate. You can contact me directly if that's what you're trying to do.
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
When we still had an in-house Exchange server, it was working with Evolution with the ews plugin, but no certificate was required.
The "evolution-ews" package is not installed by default, so you will need to install it.
On 3/20/22 00:37, Tim via users wrote:
On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 17:47 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
My very brief internet search shows that there ought to be a very obvious "Exchange MAPI" server type option in the email account settings (when the plugin is installed), so that makes me think of a few things:
Perhaps your plugins weren't properly installed.
dnf install evolution-mapi . Not sure what else to do, and yes Evolution was not running when installing.
Perhaps Evolution needed to be completely quit and restarted.
Were you trying to configure a new account from scratch, or trying to change an existing mail account over to the MAPI protocol?
Also, my search suggested that evolution-mapi is outdated and replaced by evolution-ews. So, perhaps try the other plugin.
EWS asks for a web URL which that server doesn't have.
NB: I use Evolution, but not with any Exchange servers (I've never used Exchange). From what I read about exchange, it has various protocols it *can* use (IMAP, POP3, EAS, MAPI, etc), but whether *any* of them are available will depend on how the server is configured. Have you checked if MAPI is the right protocol to use with your server?
On 3/20/22 02:39, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/19/22 03:47, Frederic Muller wrote:
Long story short, my wife needs to connect to an Evolution server which webmail no longer works due to some SSL certif configuration (now only works with Explorer or Edge if I'm not mistaken).
Is this an internal server or office.com? I have the office.com webmail working with Chromium and it requires a specific certificate. You can contact me directly if that's what you're trying to do.
No, it's not office.com . It's just a 'basic' mail server using Exchange.
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
When we still had an in-house Exchange server, it was working with Evolution with the ews plugin, but no certificate was required.
The certificate seems to be only required when using webmail. Now everything works fine using MS Outlook on a Windows machine (which I do not have and have no plan on having...).
The "evolution-ews" package is not installed by default, so you will need to install it. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
On 3/19/22 20:16, Frederic Muller wrote:
On 3/20/22 00:37, Tim via users wrote:
On Sat, 2022-03-19 at 17:47 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
I read (a few) the manual and installed evolution, evolution-mapi and evolution-ews (seems I didn't need that one). Unfortunately in the email settings I do not see Microsoft Exchange in server type. I've tried a few things but nothing works.
My very brief internet search shows that there ought to be a very obvious "Exchange MAPI" server type option in the email account settings (when the plugin is installed), so that makes me think of a few things:
Perhaps your plugins weren't properly installed.
dnf install evolution-mapi . Not sure what else to do, and yes Evolution was not running when installing.
Perhaps Evolution needed to be completely quit and restarted.
Were you trying to configure a new account from scratch, or trying to change an existing mail account over to the MAPI protocol?
Also, my search suggested that evolution-mapi is outdated and replaced by evolution-ews. So, perhaps try the other plugin.
EWS asks for a web URL which that server doesn't have.
MAPI is probably not available. I don't remember the details now, but I think there's some way to auto-detect the EWS url given a username or else it's related to the webmail url.
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 10:16 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
dnf install evolution-mapi . Not sure what else to do, and yes Evolution was not running when installing.
Parts of Evolution are always running when logged in. You may have had to log out and in again to get Evolution to load new plug-ins.
EWS asks for a web URL which that server doesn't have.
How did you successfully use the server with the other client?
Quick internet search reveals this bit of info: EWS URL has a special format: https://<mail-server>/ews/exchange.asmx where <mail-server> needs to be replaced with the address of your Exchange ...
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I can't say I'm a fan of any proprietary email systems. My sister had to use an incredibly crappy one when she was at college, and I had a brief dalliance with Hotmail donkey's years ago. I remember AOL getting nicknamed ay-oh-hell for their own system.
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 10:18 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
When we still had an in-house Exchange server, it was working with Evolution with the ews plugin, but no certificate was required.
The certificate seems to be only required when using webmail. Now everything works fine using MS Outlook on a Windows machine (which I do not have and have no plan on having...).
I have no experience with EWS. I've never used Exchange and never intend to use it. That's why I recommend you ask on the Evolution list. Plenty of people there can help you with these questions. You might also look at the list archives:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/
poc
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 18:41 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 10:16 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
dnf install evolution-mapi . Not sure what else to do, and yes Evolution was not running when installing.
Parts of Evolution are always running when logged in. You may have had to log out and in again to get Evolution to load new plug-ins.
Not necessary. Just run "evolution --force-shutdown" and restart it.
poc
Tim:
Parts of Evolution are always running when logged in. You may have had to log out and in again to get Evolution to load new plug-ins.
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Not necessary. Just run "evolution --force-shutdown" and restart it.
I thought there was something like that, but mine didn't provide the info about it.
$ evolution --help Usage: evolution [OPTION…] — The Evolution PIM and Email Client
Help Options: -h, --help Show help options --help-all Show all help options --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options
Application Options: -c, --component Start Evolution showing the specified component. Available options are “mail”, “calendar”, “contacts”, “tasks”, and “memos” -g, --geometry=GEOMETRY Apply the given geometry to the main window --offline Start in offline mode --online Start in online mode --force-online Ignore network availability --disable-eplugin Disable loading of any plugins. --disable-preview Disable preview pane of Mail, Contacts and Tasks. -i, --import Import URIs or filenames given as rest of arguments. -q, --quit Request a running Evolution process to quit --display=DISPLAY X display to use
I still don't know if you need to do that to recognise a new plug-in, though. There is a plug-in manager in the edit menu. They might want to look through that.
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 00:45 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
Parts of Evolution are always running when logged in. You may have had to log out and in again to get Evolution to load new plug- ins.
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Not necessary. Just run "evolution --force-shutdown" and restart it.
I thought there was something like that, but mine didn't provide the info about it.
$ evolution --help Usage: evolution [OPTION…] — The Evolution PIM and Email Client
Help Options: -h, --help Show help options --help-all Show all help options --help-gtk Show GTK+ Options
evolution --help-all or man evolution
poc
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 19:09 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
evolution --help-all
"evolution --force-shutdown" wasn't in there, either.
or man evolution
Not installed on *this* distro, no man package available, and apparently no man file is part of its "evolution-help" package.
Nonetheless, the command is accepted.
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 14:50 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 19:09 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
evolution --help-all
"evolution --force-shutdown" wasn't in there, either.
or man evolution
Not installed on *this* distro, no man package available, and apparently no man file is part of its "evolution-help" package.
Aren't you using Fedora?
$ rpm -qf /usr/share/man/man1/evolution.1.gz evolution-3.42.4-1.fc35.x86_64
Nonetheless, the command is accepted.
$ rpm -q evolution evolution-3.42.4-1.fc35.x86_64 [poc@Bree ~]$ evolution --help-all Usage: evolution [OPTION…] — The Evolution PIM and Email Client
Help Options: -h, --help Show help options --help-all Show all help options --help-gtk Show GTK Options
GTK Options --class=CLASS Program class as used by the window manager --name=NAME Program name as used by the window manager --gtk-module=MODULES Load additional GTK modules --g-fatal-warnings Make all warnings fatal
Application Options: -c, --component=COMPONENT Start Evolution showing the specified component. Available options are “mail”, “calendar”, “contacts”, “tasks”, and “memos” -g, --geometry=GEOMETRY Apply the given geometry to the main window --offline Start in offline mode --online Start in online mode --force-online Ignore network availability --force-shutdown Forcibly shut down Evolution <------** --disable-eplugin Disable loading of any plug-ins. --disable-preview Disable preview pane of Mail, Contacts and Tasks. -i, --import Import URIs or filenames given as rest of arguments. -q, --quit Request a running Evolution process to quit --display=DISPLAY X display to use
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 11:49 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Aren't you using Fedora?
Yes, but not on the PC that I do most of my email on. That one uses CentOS, and I'm trying Linux Mint on the laptop at the moment. The current version of Fedora was diabolical on it, it was as slow as a dog (it is a very old laptop, so I'm not that surprised), and had a 1 hertz flashing at the top of the screen unless I fiddled with a desktop rendering option every time I booted up. Yet Mint was miles better on it.
On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 16:57 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 11:49 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Aren't you using Fedora?
Yes, but not on the PC that I do most of my email on. That one uses CentOS, and I'm trying Linux Mint on the laptop at the moment. The current version of Fedora was diabolical on it, it was as slow as a dog (it is a very old laptop, so I'm not that surprised), and had a 1 hertz flashing at the top of the screen unless I fiddled with a desktop rendering option every time I booted up. Yet Mint was miles better on it.
I had Mint for a while on an ancient Asus EEE, but then Mint stopped supporting 32-bits (though I think there's a Debian variant that still has it). My current laptop is an Acer about 7 years old and has only 4GB of RAM, yet runs F35 quite well (I swapped the HDD for an old SSD which made all the difference).
Anyway, this is getting OT.
poc
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