I've had the problem for some time where after burning the CD/DVD get's mounted and then Brasero gives an error saying it can't eject the disk. It wasn't effecting the burns so I ignored it.
Today I tried to burn a CD ISO file (system rescue cd) and after a bad burn I tried again. Now, even after a reboot, it calculates the checksum and then ejects the blank disc.
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Anyone else having issues?
I know I can install k3b but brasero should work and I don't like having to install all the dependencies (i.e. half of KDE) just to burn a disc.
Thanks, Richard
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
I've had the problem for some time where after burning the CD/DVD get's mounted and then Brasero gives an error saying it can't eject the disk. It wasn't effecting the burns so I ignored it.
Today I tried to burn a CD ISO file (system rescue cd) and after a bad burn I tried again. Now, even after a reboot, it calculates the checksum and then ejects the blank disc.
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Anyone else having issues?
I know I can install k3b but brasero should work and I don't like having to install all the dependencies (i.e. half of KDE) just to burn a disc.
I do also have issues with Brasero. So I moved to K3B. Yep there's a lot of installation, yet it worth than working with Brasero sometimes. Alternatively you can use cdrecord in terminal, it takes some effort to read the man and get familiarized though.
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On 04/03/2011 11:29 AM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote:
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Richard Shawhobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
I've had the problem for some time where after burning the CD/DVD get's mounted and then Brasero gives an error saying it can't eject the disk. It wasn't effecting the burns so I ignored it.
Today I tried to burn a CD ISO file (system rescue cd) and after a bad burn I tried again. Now, even after a reboot, it calculates the checksum and then ejects the blank disc.
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Anyone else having issues?
I know I can install k3b but brasero should work and I don't like having to install all the dependencies (i.e. half of KDE) just to burn a disc.
I do also have issues with Brasero. So I moved to K3B. Yep there's a lot of installation, yet it worth than working with Brasero sometimes. Alternatively you can use cdrecord in terminal, it takes some effort to read the man and get familiarized though.
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I've also noticed that Brasero is not quite ready for prime time. I have to shut it down after every burn to get it to correctly recognize the next blank disk.
I have not found a way to change the order of tracks on a program other than loading them in the correct order in the first place. That can be very tedious if you have 15 tracks to load.
If you try to remove all the tracks from a burn list by selecting them all with ctrl-a and then hitting the delete key all the tracks are removed except the first track which can only be removed with the "-" icon at the top of the page. It would be better if it was all or nothing. If you can't remove them all with the delete key you shouldn't be able to remove any of them that way. That's how Rhythmbox is set up. Makes perfect sense and is consistent in its behavior.
There's probably a lot more "features" but I don't use it much so I haven't tripped over them yet.
On 04/03/2011 08:23 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I've had the problem for some time where after burning the CD/DVD get's mounted and then Brasero gives an error saying it can't eject the disk. It wasn't effecting the burns so I ignored it.
Today I tried to burn a CD ISO file (system rescue cd) and after a bad burn I tried again. Now, even after a reboot, it calculates the checksum and then ejects the blank disc.
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Anyone else having issues?
I know I can install k3b but brasero should work and I don't like having to install all the dependencies (i.e. half of KDE) just to burn a disc.
Thanks, Richard
Well, try it the MANUAL way:
wodim -v -data dev=/dev/sr0 speed=2 fedoraxxxxx.iso
That's how I burned my F14 DVD iso, and it worked perfectly.
On 04/03/2011 10:16 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:17:52 -0700 JD wrote:
wodim -v -data dev=/dev/sr0 speed=2 fedoraxxxxx.iso
That's how I burned my F14 DVD iso, and it worked perfectly.
Really? I can't make wodim burn a good DVD at all, only growisofs works for DVDs on my system.
Sorry to say so, but having problems with wodim sounds a bit too weird :)
Wodim has never failed me!
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 10:23 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Ya'd think so...
Anyone else having issues?
This is with ye olde Fedora 9, but I wonder if it still does the same thing on the current versions:
Drag a pile of files into the window for creating a disc from them, and start to burn your disc. It'll spend ages creating the image from the files, then burn it.
Now try burning a second copy. It'll spend ages creating a new image form the files, then burn that. It doesn't keep and re-use the image it made before.
Yes, I'd checked appropriate options about doing that.
I really regretted installing Brasero. Because the previous burn disc feature from within Nautilus worked far less painfully. But brasero took over that.
HI Guys,
Read this to be enlightened: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html
Zoltan
2011/4/3 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au:
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 10:23 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Ya'd think so...
Anyone else having issues?
This is with ye olde Fedora 9, but I wonder if it still does the same thing on the current versions:
Drag a pile of files into the window for creating a disc from them, and start to burn your disc. It'll spend ages creating the image from the files, then burn it.
Now try burning a second copy. It'll spend ages creating a new image form the files, then burn that. It doesn't keep and re-use the image it made before.
Yes, I'd checked appropriate options about doing that.
I really regretted installing Brasero. Because the previous burn disc feature from within Nautilus worked far less painfully. But brasero took over that.
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On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 18:43:30 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:
HI Guys,
Read this to be enlightened: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html
But be sure to take it with a big grain of salt.
HI Bruno,
Sure, but I think if I loose less hair and I could forget broken unfinished writes... I don't care of this fighting theatre. However I really would like to know the truth, and we have also libburnia project. Still more users experimenting strange errors... then can be true either.
Zotlan
2011/4/3 Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 18:43:30 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:
HI Guys,
Read this to be enlightened: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html
But be sure to take it with a big grain of salt.
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 19:17:55 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:
HI Bruno,
Sure, but I think if I loose less hair and I could forget broken unfinished writes... I don't care of this fighting theatre. However I really would like to know the truth, and we have also libburnia project. Still more users experimenting strange errors... then can be true either.
There are several issues. There is the licensing, which could probably be resolved. There is the security issue of not filtering scsi commands. (I think I got burned by this, as I have an old DVD burner, that stopped being able to burn CDs, but can still burn DVDs that changed around the time that switch was made.) And there was (maybe still is, but I am not sure) cdrtools obscure way of referring to devices by scsi ids instead of file system paths. Plus, I get the impression that cdrtools is mostly a one man show, and that isn't good for future proofing.
Bruno,
What do you suggest? Is it possible to replace completely the parts with something else that's not this?
Z
2011/4/3 Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 19:17:55 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:
HI Bruno,
Sure, but I think if I loose less hair and I could forget broken unfinished writes... I don't care of this fighting theatre. However I really would like to know the truth, and we have also libburnia project. Still more users experimenting strange errors... then can be true either.
There are several issues. There is the licensing, which could probably be resolved. There is the security issue of not filtering scsi commands. (I think I got burned by this, as I have an old DVD burner, that stopped being able to burn CDs, but can still burn DVDs that changed around the time that switch was made.) And there was (maybe still is, but I am not sure) cdrtools obscure way of referring to devices by scsi ids instead of file system paths. Plus, I get the impression that cdrtools is mostly a one man show, and that isn't good for future proofing.
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 19:45:23 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar hopparz@gmail.com wrote:
Bruno,
What do you suggest? Is it possible to replace completely the parts with something else that's not this?
There isn't an easy answer.
On 04/03/2011 10:34 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 19:17:55 +0200, Zoltan Hopparhopparz@gmail.com wrote:
HI Bruno,
Sure, but I think if I loose less hair and I could forget broken unfinished writes... I don't care of this fighting theatre. However I really would like to know the truth, and we have also libburnia project. Still more users experimenting strange errors... then can be true either.
There are several issues. There is the licensing, which could probably be resolved. There is the security issue of not filtering scsi commands. (I think I got burned by this, as I have an old DVD burner, that stopped being able to burn CDs, but can still burn DVDs that changed around the time that switch was made.) And there was (maybe still is, but I am not sure) cdrtools obscure way of referring to devices by scsi ids instead of file system paths. Plus, I get the impression that cdrtools is mostly a one man show, and that isn't good for future proofing.
Were any of the software byJoerg Schilling released with the GPL license? If not, then he has sole claim, no? Also, many corporations reserve the right to withdraw their product from the GPL license and make it proprietary again. As much as we opensource fans would like it to be otherwise, I think the owner of the source still at least retains intellectual property rights, if not also distribution rights (if NOT released under GPL).
Also, I was not pleased when Joerg required one to get a special license token to burn a full DVD iso. But then, he produced it and had the right to do with it as he pleased.
As far as using the "obscure way of referring to devices by scsi ids", Did he not borrow that from Solaris? I thought his first release was for Solaris.
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:47:57 -0700, JD jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
Were any of the software byJoerg Schilling released with the GPL license? If not, then he has sole claim, no?
I believe the original license was an MIT variant, but I am not sure.
Also, many corporations reserve the right to withdraw their product from the GPL license and make it proprietary again.
When this happens the old code is still GPL (or whatever the original open source license was, as the same applies) and development can continue parallel to the original developer.
As much as we opensource fans would like it to be otherwise, I think the owner of the source still at least retains intellectual property rights, if not also distribution rights (if NOT released under GPL).
The original developers would still have copyright and could restrict distribution by others of either their new code or the old code in a way that was not allowed by the original open source license.
Also, I was not pleased when Joerg required one to get a special license token to burn a full DVD iso. But then, he produced it and had the right to do with it as he pleased.
Sure.
As far as using the "obscure way of referring to devices by scsi ids", Did he not borrow that from Solaris? I thought his first release was for Solaris.
I believe so, but it was still obscure.
Tim:
This is with ye olde Fedora 9, but I wonder if it still does the same thing on the current versions:
Drag a pile of files into the window for creating a disc from them, and start to burn your disc. It'll spend ages creating the image from the files, then burn it.
Now try burning a second copy. It'll spend ages creating a new image form the files, then burn that. It doesn't keep and re-use the image it made before.
Yes, I'd checked appropriate options about doing that.
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 18:43 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
Read this to be enlightened: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/linux-dist.html
An entirely different set of conditions to what I talked about (creating the compilation to be burnt, compared to problems during burning).
I'd seen such arguments before. But the fellow did have a fit of pique about it and people using it. And I was less than thrilled with him turning it into crippled shareware, as far as burning some types of discs with it was concerned. This is the wrong arena to try that lark.
Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 <at> gmail.com> writes:
... Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
Anyone else having issues? ...
Brasero has been erratic for a very long time. Yes, just yesterday it refused to burn my CD-RW disc. There was more to that because wodim in xterm failed too. After a reboot, wodim succeeded.
JB
On 04/03/2011 11:23 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I've had the problem for some time where after burning the CD/DVD get's mounted and then Brasero gives an error saying it can't eject the disk. It wasn't effecting the burns so I ignored it.
...
I gave up on it too - it sorta worked sometimes but - k3b is much better and far easier to use ...
no magic dynamic context sensitive GUI like gnome one .. you see all options and pick what you want which is far simpler to use.
Bite the bullet - use k3b.
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
Brasero has been buggy for me (and apparently others, I've found) for a while. Shouldn't the default burning app for Gnome get a little more attention?
It's never worked properly for me, on any machine I've tried, since it became the default.
K3b all the way.
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