New avconv instead of ffmpeg

[Dario Lesca]

About ffmpeg, a Debian's user say:

>  "This package contains the deprecated ffmpeg program. This
> package
>  also serves as a transitional package to libav-tools. Users are
>  advised to use avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg.
>  
>  Libav is a complete, cross-platform solution to decode, encode,
>  record, convert and stream audio and video." 
http://libav.org/

I'm looking for a Fedora's package for libav-tools (or avcomv)

Someone can help me?

Many thanks

-- 
Dario Lesca - sip:[e-mail]
(Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora18+Gnome3)

[Reindl Harald]

Am 04.06.2013 09:26, schrieb Dario Lesca:
>  About ffmpeg, a Debian's user say:
>  
> > "This package contains the deprecated ffmpeg program. This package
> > also serves as a transitional package to libav-tools. Users are
> > advised to use avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg.
> >
> > Libav is a complete, cross-platform solution to decode, encode,
> > record, convert and stream audio and video."
>  
>  http://libav.org/
>  
>  I'm looking for a Fedora's package for libav-tools (or avcomv) 
do *not* cross-post
this is clearly not a topic for the devel list

ffmpeg is the origininal and well maintained
libav is a successless and broken fork

as for most multimedia things: http://rpmfusion.org/

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 10:07:25 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:

>  ffmpeg is the origininal and well maintained 
And if you go to the ffmpeg web site downloads page
you can find static builds for linux that work well
and have all the documented features (unlike the
ancient versions of ffmpeg in the fedora repos).

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 06/04/2013 08:14 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>  And if you go to the ffmpeg web site downloads page
>  you can find static builds for linux that work well
>  and have all the documented features (unlike the
>  ancient versions of ffmpeg in the fedora repos). 
What do you mean by "ancient versions?"

RPMFusion contains an up-to-date version of ffmpeg (1.2.1).

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:39:39 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:

>  RPMFusion contains an up-to-date version of ffmpeg (1.2.1). 
Maybe in the rawhide repo, in the f18 repos it is:
ffmpeg-1.0.7-1.fc18.x86_64

(And the last time I tried to use the rawhide rpmfusion
ffmpeg, it segfaulted as soon as I typed an ffmpeg
command :-).

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 06/04/2013 08:47 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>  Maybe in the rawhide repo, in the f18 repos it is:
>  ffmpeg-1.0.7-1.fc18.x86_64
>  
I was looking at the Fedora 19 repo.

You can always file a bug with RPMFusion with a RFE for a newer version,
but I imagine the reasoning for maintaining a "stable" version (1.0.x)
and not the "bleeding edge" version (1.2.x) is due to F18 being a stable
release.

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Michael Cronenworth <mike(a)cchtml.com&gt; wrote:

>  On 06/04/2013 08:47 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>  > Maybe in the rawhide repo, in the f18 repos it is:
>  > ffmpeg-1.0.7-1.fc18.x86_64
>  >
>
>  I was looking at the Fedora 19 repo.
>
>  You can always file a bug with RPMFusion with a RFE for a newer version,
>  but I imagine the reasoning for maintaining a "stable" version (1.0.x)
>  and not the "bleeding edge" version (1.2.x) is due to F18 being a stable
>  release. 

Actually, the main problem is having the rebuild all the dependencies. RPM
Fusion doesn't have the same level of infrastructure as Fedora so there's
no koji, Bodhi, buildroot overrides, etc. So big updates usually break
things for a short amount of time or require a lot of hand holding.

Also RPM Fusion generally follows the Fedora guidelines, which include when
and when not to update, so 1.0.X to 1.1.X would generally be discouraged
within a release.

Richard

[Peter G.]

Richard Shaw wrote:

>  RPM Fusion generally follows the Fedora guidelines, which include
>  when and when not to update, so 1.0.X to 1.1.X would generally be
>  discouraged within a release. 
I asked on their mailing list during roughly fedora 16, about a 
year or more ago, and this is what they told me.

Unfortunately, they didn't upgrade during the transition to fedora 
17, nor to fedora 18 either.

[Richard Shaw]

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Peter Gueckel <pgueckel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Richard Shaw wrote:
>
>  > RPM Fusion generally follows the Fedora guidelines, which include
>  > when and when not to update, so 1.0.X to 1.1.X would generally be
>  > discouraged within a release.
>
>  I asked on their mailing list during roughly fedora 16, about a
>  year or more ago, and this is what they told me.
>
>  Unfortunately, they didn't upgrade during the transition to fedora
>  17, nor to fedora 18 either.
>
>  
As I mentioned, we're all volunteers here. Any help would be appreciated :)

Richard