7:45 p.m.
Hello,
I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it is not
recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
Is a driver missing?
The SSD is recognized by he bios.
Thanks
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8:10 p.m.
On 2021-04-08 1:45 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it is not
recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
Is a driver missing?
The SSD is recognized by he bios.
Thanks
Your question is vague and lacking in details. This might help;
https://opensource.com/life/16/10/how-ask-technical-questions
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Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent
have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
8:21 p.m.
> Hello,
>
> I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it is not
> recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
> Is a driver missing?
> The SSD is recognized by the bios.
It is a Dell laptop.
Is is an internal M2 format!
I boot on the fedora live USB key.
neither fidsk or cfdifk or gparted see the SSD
(only the USB key is recognized)
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Your question is vague and lacking in details. This might help;
>
> https://opensource.com/life/16/10/how-ask-technical-questions
>
>
> --
> Digimer
> Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.com/w/
> "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of
> Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent
> have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
>
8:30 p.m.
Anything in dmsg ?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:22 PM Patrick Dupre <pdupre(a)gmx.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it
is not
> > recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
> > Is a driver missing?
> > The SSD is recognized by the bios.
It is a Dell laptop.
Is is an internal M2 format!
I boot on the fedora live USB key.
neither fidsk or cfdifk or gparted see the SSD
(only the USB key is recognized)
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Your question is vague and lacking in details. This might help;
>
> https://opensource.com/life/16/10/how-ask-technical-questions
>
>
> --
> Digimer
> Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.com/w/
> "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of
> Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent
> have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
>
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10:04 p.m.
According to the information that I grabbed.
This SSD has a windows installed
The drive would be encrypted.
My original idea what to install a dual-boot.
It seems compromised.
Is it a way for microsoft to fight against Linux?
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it is
not
> > > recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
> > > Is a driver missing?
> > > The SSD is recognized by the bios.
>
> It is a Dell laptop.
> Is is an internal M2 format!
> I boot on the fedora live USB key.
> neither fidsk or cfdifk or gparted see the SSD
> (only the USB key is recognized)
>
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Your question is vague and lacking in details. This might help;
> >
> > https://opensource.com/life/16/10/how-ask-technical-questions
> >
> >
> > --
> > Digimer
> > Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.com/w/
> > "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of
> > Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent
> > have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
> >
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4:41 a.m.
在 2021-04-08星期四的 22:04 +0200，Patrick Dupre写道：
According to the information that I grabbed.
This SSD has a windows installed
The drive would be encrypted.
Usually encrypted means bitlocker, while it is on
filesystem level
and have nothing to do with the hardware.
For a m.2 device, it can be either on SATA bus or PCIe bus as a NVME
device, see if
lspci |grep "Non-Volatile memory controller"
or
dmesg |grep nvme
gives you information about the disk. If no output above, then see
dmesg |grep SATA
if still no output, we can tell that the disk is not recognized after
all.
My original idea what to install a dual-boot.
It seems compromised.
Is it a way for microsoft to fight against Linux?
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go,
> > > but it is not
> > > recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
> > > Is a driver missing?
> > > The SSD is recognized by the bios.
>
> It is a Dell laptop.
> Is is an internal M2 format!
> I boot on the fedora live USB key.
> neither fidsk or cfdifk or gparted see the SSD
> (only the USB key is recognized)
>
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Your question is vague and lacking in details. This might help;
> >
> > https://opensource.com/life/16/10/how-ask-technical-questions
> >
> >
> > --
> > Digimer
> > Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.com/w/
> > "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of
> > Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal
> > talent
> > have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen
> > Jay Gould
> >
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12:37 a.m.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 2:22 PM Patrick Dupre <pdupre(a)gmx.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it
is not
> > recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
> > Is a driver missing?
> > The SSD is recognized by the bios.
It is a Dell laptop.
Is is an internal M2 format!
I boot on the fedora live USB key.
neither fidsk or cfdifk or gparted see the SSD
(only the USB key is recognized)
I'm interested in this too.
I'd like to install the OS on the SSD drive (without atime) so it
can all be relatively read-only. And put /home onto the spinning
drive I just purchased for it. B.T.W. It's a Dell G3 laptop.
2:11 a.m.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 11:46 AM Patrick Dupre <pdupre(a)gmx.com> wrote:
Hello,
I wanted to install fedora 33 on a laptop with a M2 SSD 128.Go, but it is
not
recognized by fdisk (fedora live WK).
Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though their
Windows installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to
RAID in the BIOS, Linux cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to
AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell workstation, this is under System
Configuration -> SATA Operations.
It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in and
verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the
cause of your problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB stick.
It should then see the SSD.
Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to RAID.
If you were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted
to do), then there is a procedure you can Google for (it might have even
been referred to on this list) that will allow the Dell-installed Windows
to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions and can now dual boot
Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
--Greg
9:46 a.m.
On Friday, April 9, 2021 1:11:01 AM WEST Greg Woods wrote:
Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though
their
Windows installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to
RAID in the BIOS, Linux cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to
AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell workstation, this is under System
Configuration -> SATA Operations.
It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in and
verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the
cause of your problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB stick.
It should then see the SSD.
Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to RAID.
If you were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted
to do), then there is a procedure you can Google for (it might have even
been referred to on this list) that will allow the Dell-installed Windows
to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions and can now dual boot
Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
--Greg
This is +1 message. :-)
Yesterday I had precisely the same issue and the solution that Greg stated was
the solution. This was a Dell XPS 15.
In this case the windows version was erased so there was no need for the
workaround. Looking in the BIOS, in the storage section, was enough to see
that the chosen configuration was RAID, changing it to AHCI allowed the
installer to see the disk and to proceed with the installation.
Regards,
--
José Matos
11:22 a.m.
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 9:46 AM
From: "José Abílio Matos" <jaomatos(a)gmail.com>
To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: M2 on laptop
On Friday, April 9, 2021 1:11:01 AM WEST Greg Woods wrote:
> Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though their
> Windows installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to
> RAID in the BIOS, Linux cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to
> AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell workstation, this is under System
> Configuration -> SATA Operations.
>
> It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in and
> verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the
> cause of your problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB stick.
> It should then see the SSD.
>
> Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to RAID.
> If you were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted
> to do), then there is a procedure you can Google for (it might have even
> been referred to on this list) that will allow the Dell-installed Windows
> to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions and can now dual boot
> Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
>
> --Greg
This is +1 message. :-)
Yesterday I had precisely the same issue and the solution that Greg stated was
the solution. This was a Dell XPS 15.
In this case the windows version was erased so there was no need for the
workaround. Looking in the BIOS, in the storage section, was enough to see
that the chosen configuration was RAID, changing it to AHCI allowed the
installer to see the disk and to proceed with the installation.
Regards,
--
José Matos
Finally can I expect to install a dual-boot by keeping the installed windows running after
shrinking the
original partition if I need?
These 2 comments do not seem to match together.
1:26 p.m.
Depending on whose fake-raid it is you might be able to provide an
extra driver for it, or need an extra option. I know that the intel
raids have some sort of pieces that will allow dm-raid to see and
manage them. Beyond that I don't know much about it as I always
attempt to avoid using the fake-raid no matter what. If you find
the part that makes it work that part would need to continue to be in
the initramfs for any updating going forward so at best it is going to
be troublesome in the future.
And most of the laptops that have an M2 may also still have an open
real sata location (maybe even with a cable) that you could also put a
sata ssd or spinning disk in, and dual boot that way. The 2 most
recent ones I have opened that came with a M2 both had a location but
only one had the correct cable for power and sata.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:22 AM Patrick Dupre <pdupre(a)gmx.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 9:46 AM
> > From: "José Abílio Matos" <jaomatos(a)gmail.com>
> > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Subject: Re: M2 on laptop
> >
> > On Friday, April 9, 2021 1:11:01 AM WEST Greg Woods wrote:
> > > Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though their
> > > Windows installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to
> > > RAID in the BIOS, Linux cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to
> > > AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell workstation, this is under System
> > > Configuration -> SATA Operations.
> > >
> > > It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go
in and
> > > verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the
> > > cause of your problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB
stick.
> > > It should then see the SSD.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to
RAID.
> > > If you were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted
> > > to do), then there is a procedure you can Google for (it might have even
> > > been referred to on this list) that will allow the Dell-installed Windows
> > > to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions and can now dual boot
> > > Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
> > >
> > > --Greg
> >
> > This is +1 message. :-)
> >
> > Yesterday I had precisely the same issue and the solution that Greg stated was
> > the solution. This was a Dell XPS 15.
> >
> > In this case the windows version was erased so there was no need for the
> > workaround. Looking in the BIOS, in the storage section, was enough to see
> > that the chosen configuration was RAID, changing it to AHCI allowed the
> > installer to see the disk and to proceed with the installation.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > José Matos
> >
>
> Finally can I expect to install a dual-boot by keeping the installed windows running
after shrinking the
> original partition if I need?
> These 2 comments do not seem to match together.
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3:19 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 7:26 AM Roger Heflin <rogerheflin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
... snip ...
And most of the laptops that have an M2 may also still have an open
real sata location (maybe even with a cable) that you could also put
a
sata ssd or spinning disk in, and dual boot that way. The 2 most
recent ones I have opened that came with a M2 both had a location but
only one had the correct cable for power and sata.
The Dell G3 I acquired fits that bill. I ordered the requisite
parts from Dell, and they came yesterday:
$ 0.73 for the mounting bracket
$ 0.68 for the cable
$ 0.12 for the 3 mounting screws to attach the bracket to the chassis
$11.96 for the 4 screws to attach the drive to the bracket
Oh, and $15 shipping and handling.
3:58 p.m.
On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 18:11 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though
their Windows installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it
is set to RAID in the BIOS, Linux cannot see it. For Linux to run,
it must be set to AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell workstation,
this is under System Configuration -> SATA Operations.
It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in
and verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is
likely the cause of your problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your
Linux USB stick. It should then see the SSD.
Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to
RAID. If you were planning to keep the installed Windows system
(which I wanted to do), then there is a procedure you can Google for
(it might have even been referred to on this list) that will allow
the Dell-installed Windows to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the
directions and can now dual boot Windows and Linux out of the GRUB
menu.
I believe I have shared this link before on the list. It worked to
allow me to keep my existing Windows installation dual boot my Dell XPS
13 (after resizing the partition of course)
https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid...
5:58 p.m.
Hi guys!!
Thanks for the information helping the OP with his/her/their issue.
I'm not trying to take over the thread, but I'm going to run into a
similar situation.
I'm thinking of getting a laptop (hp/lenovo/dell) that would have
windows installed on the SSD. I'm thinking of getting an additional 2G
2.5" SATA and would like to be able to dual boot windows/fed (or
rhel).
For those of you who've gone down this path. What are issues I need to
be aware of that I can resolve prior to getting the box? Questions I
should ask the presales tech support?
Thanks much!
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:59 AM Kevin Becker <kevin(a)kevinbecker.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 18:11 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
>
>
> Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though their Windows
installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to RAID in the BIOS, Linux
cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell
workstation, this is under System Configuration -> SATA Operations.
>
> It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in and
verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the cause of your
problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB stick. It should then see the SSD.
>
> Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to RAID. If you
were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted to do), then there is a
procedure you can Google for (it might have even been referred to on this list) that will
allow the Dell-installed Windows to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions and
can now dual boot Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
>
>
> I believe I have shared this link before on the list. It worked to allow me to keep
my existing Windows installation dual boot my Dell XPS 13 (after resizing the partition of
course)
>
>
https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid...
>
>
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8:58 p.m.
You can likely ask pre-sales tech support every question you want to,
it will likely resolve nothing. The odds of any answer they give you
(on something like this) being right is 50/50 (ie not to be trusted
nor relied on). Checking the manual and what other people trying to
do similar things say is going to be much more accurate (google the
model). Most tech support are trained to be confident in what they
say hence you can never tell if they are a deer in the headlights
making things up. I have only really caught them at the time when I
immediately know what they just said was not true. So if you ask all
of the questions you may only end up buying from the company with the
most confident sounding tech support person that made it all up.
It is not a great state but it seems to be reality. I won't waste the
time asking the questions because the accuracy of the info I get is so
low that the info cannot be used.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:58 AM bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi guys!!
>
> Thanks for the information helping the OP with his/her/their issue.
>
> I'm not trying to take over the thread, but I'm going to run into a
> similar situation.
>
> I'm thinking of getting a laptop (hp/lenovo/dell) that would have
> windows installed on the SSD. I'm thinking of getting an additional 2G
> 2.5" SATA and would like to be able to dual boot windows/fed (or
> rhel).
>
> For those of you who've gone down this path. What are issues I need to
> be aware of that I can resolve prior to getting the box? Questions I
> should ask the presales tech support?
>
> Thanks much!
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:59 AM Kevin Becker <kevin(a)kevinbecker.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 18:11 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though their Windows
installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to RAID in the BIOS, Linux
cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell
workstation, this is under System Configuration -> SATA Operations.
> >
> > It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in and
verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the cause of your
problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB stick. It should then see the SSD.
> >
> > Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to RAID. If
you were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted to do), then there
is a procedure you can Google for (it might have even been referred to on this list) that
will allow the Dell-installed Windows to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions
and can now dual boot Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
> >
> >
> > I believe I have shared this link before on the list. It worked to allow me to
keep my existing Windows installation dual boot my Dell XPS 13 (after resizing the
partition of course)
> >
> >
https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid...
> >
> >
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1:25 a.m.
Hello Everyone.
Some time ago I helped a friend purchase a Dell laptop (I don’t remember which crowd she
got the laptop from) and specified that the drive be partitioned accordingly and
configured dual boot windows and Linux.
They did so without question but would not install Linux because they contract to
windows.
Maybe making such a specification before purchase is still feasible.
Just thinking
Cheers
Roger
On 10 Apr 2021, at 1:58 am, bruce <badouglas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys!!
Thanks for the information helping the OP with his/her/their issue.
I'm not trying to take over the thread, but I'm going to run into a
similar situation.
I'm thinking of getting a laptop (hp/lenovo/dell) that would have
windows installed on the SSD. I'm thinking of getting an additional 2G
2.5" SATA and would like to be able to dual boot windows/fed (or
rhel).
For those of you who've gone down this path. What are issues I need to
be aware of that I can resolve prior to getting the box? Questions I
should ask the presales tech support?
Thanks much!
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:59 AM Kevin Becker <kevin(a)kevinbecker.org> wrote:
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> On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 18:11 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
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> Dell likes to configure the SSD as a RAID in the BIOS. Even though their Windows
installation is not using it as a RAID device. When it is set to RAID in the BIOS, Linux
cannot see it. For Linux to run, it must be set to AHCI mode. In my relatively new Dell
workstation, this is under System Configuration -> SATA Operations.
>
> It "should" be safe (all I can say is that it was for me) to go in and
verify that your SATA mode is set RAID (in which case this is likely the cause of your
problem), set it to AHCI, and then boot your Linux USB stick. It should then see the SSD.
>
> Unfortunately, Windows will now not boot unless you change it back to RAID. If you
were planning to keep the installed Windows system (which I wanted to do), then there is a
procedure you can Google for (it might have even been referred to on this list) that will
allow the Dell-installed Windows to boot in non-RAID mode. I followed the directions and
can now dual boot Windows and Linux out of the GRUB menu.
>
>
> I believe I have shared this link before on the list. It worked to allow me to keep
my existing Windows installation dual boot my Dell XPS 13 (after resizing the partition of
course)
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>
https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-windows-10-from-raid...
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