My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
On 4/20/25 12:34 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
Which desktop are you using? How did you get rid of the login screen before?
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:25:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 4/20/25 12:34 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
[....]
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
Which desktop are you using?
Sorry. Mate
How did you get rid of the login screen before?
That's a vexed question. I don't recall ever having to.
As for the present, a good friend much younger than we are (whom we met years ago through the VTLUUG) set me up with dual monitors and a new KVM switch. The obnoxious-to-us login screens started -- on my PCs, but not hers then; he got rid of them with an auto-login on each of my PCs. Then I actually managed to hit an Opening Day for Fedora.
I ask here rather than of him, because I suppose such things may be of wider interest this early in a release.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025, at 10:41 AM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:25:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Which desktop are you using?
Sorry. Mate
Not sure if you got an answer yet...
I use XFCE, which uses LightDM. Not sure if Fedora MATE also uses LightDM, but it might.
Checking for instruction with a web search it wants me to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
This will work, but it is likely to get stepped on during upgrades (the problem you experienced).
The better way is:
cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/local.conf [Seat:*] autologin-user=doug
Any time there is a whatever.conf.d directory, this is where your local modifications should live. This allows you to run a default foo.conf, which allows an upgrade to see that it is unchanged and thus allows the update to give the new developers version of that conf. Your local updates should still work, assuming they have not totally re-written the conf rules.
Hi,
I use slim login manager (and openbox WM, and no DE). Would this apparent change mentioned in this thread (of forcing a login screen on everyone) affect me when I upgrade to Fedora 42?
Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
On 4/25/25 10:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I use slim login manager (and openbox WM, and no DE). Would this apparent change mentioned in this thread (of forcing a login screen on everyone) affect me when I upgrade to Fedora 42?
There was no change to force a login screen. Maybe some login manager has a changed configuration. It's very unlikely to affect what you're using.
On Fri Apr25'25 11:09:42PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
From: Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 23:09:42 -0700 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Curse the login screen!
On 4/25/25 10:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I use slim login manager (and openbox WM, and no DE). Would this apparent change mentioned in this thread (of forcing a login screen on everyone) affect me when I upgrade to Fedora 42?
There was no change to force a login screen. Maybe some login manager has a changed configuration. It's very unlikely to affect what you're using.
Thank you for your response!
Now that the RPM for signal app is available for Fedora 42, I will upgrade my everyday laptop/desktop and let you all know how that went. My other machines are headless so did not matter much.
Best wishes, Ranjan
On Sat Apr26'25 09:23:00AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
From: Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 09:23:00 -0500 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Curse the login screen!
On Fri Apr25'25 11:09:42PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
From: Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 23:09:42 -0700 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Curse the login screen!
On 4/25/25 10:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I use slim login manager (and openbox WM, and no DE). Would this apparent change mentioned in this thread (of forcing a login screen on everyone) affect me when I upgrade to Fedora 42?
There was no change to force a login screen. Maybe some login manager has a changed configuration. It's very unlikely to affect what you're using.
Thank you for your response!
Now that the RPM for signal app is available for Fedora 42, I will upgrade my everyday laptop/desktop and let you all know how that went. My other machines are headless so did not matter much.
Unfortunately, this was quite the disaster! I upgraded following the dnf instructions to the letter. Everything went smoothly, however, I got no login screen. Basically, a black screen. So, I reinstalled from Fedora 38 (which was what I had on a USB) and then upgraded to 41 which is where I am now.
Perhaps for Fedora 42, I need to do something else to get xserver going, but I have to find out more about this before I do the upgrade next.
Best wishes, Ranjan
Oh yeah -- that would do it. If they changed the login manager then the new LM would be using default config, so you'll need to refer to the documentation for the Slim LM. [Arch Wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SLiM) is a great resource for this.
On 4/26/25 1:20 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
Hi,
I use slim login manager (and openbox WM, and no DE). Would this apparent change mentioned in this thread (of forcing a login screen on everyone) affect me when I upgrade to Fedora 42?
Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
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Have you tried googling your issue? It looks like there should be a setting for it in Mate as discussed [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuMATE/comments/11tjz9r/how_to_remove_login_win...). Additionally, it looks like if you installed a keyring that might also affect whether the login manager requires a password.
On 4/21/25 1:41 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 13:25:41 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 4/20/25 12:34 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
[....]
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
Which desktop are you using?
Sorry. Mate
How did you get rid of the login screen before?
That's a vexed question. I don't recall ever having to.
As for the present, a good friend much younger than we are (whom we met years ago through the VTLUUG) set me up with dual monitors and a new KVM switch. The obnoxious-to-us login screens started -- on my PCs, but not hers then; he got rid of them with an auto-login on each of my PCs. Then I actually managed to hit an Opening Day for Fedora.
I ask here rather than of him, because I suppose such things may be of wider interest this early in a release. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.
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On Mon, 2025-04-28 at 02:02 +0000, Jonathan via users wrote:
Have you tried googling your issue? It looks like there should be a setting for it in Mate as discussed here.
"here" *was* a link to a reddit page about Ubuntu, which shows one of the drawbacks with HTML mail (disappearing links), and looking at answers from other distros can lead you in the wrong direction.
Additionally, it looks like if you installed a keyring that might also affect whether the login manager requires a password.
There are a number of things that rely on a master password to unlock their own password features. If you don't log on to your desktop, you're only going to get asked to provide a password later on (Evolution mail, perhaps Firefox).
Personally I've only once tried skipping the logon screen. I struck that problem, and I realise that if someone breaks in and steals my PC I've made things too easy for them.
On 4/20/25 1:25 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 4/20/25 12:34 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
Which desktop are you using? How did you get rid of the login screen before?
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up
-T
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:26:33 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up~# rpm -qa *dm
Hi Todd!
I get
libblockdev-dm-3.3.0-3.fc42.x86_64 mdadm-4.3-7.fc42.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-13.fc42.x86_64 gdm-48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
On 4/27/25 10:48 AM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:26:33 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up~# rpm -qa *dm
Hi Todd!
I get
libblockdev-dm-3.3.0-3.fc42.x86_64 mdadm-4.3-7.fc42.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-13.fc42.x86_64 gdm-48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
It looks like you are running both gdm and lightdm as greeters.
If you are running gnome desktop, you really should remove lightdm. If you are running Xfce, MATE or others, you should remove gdm.
Here are my note on autologon for teh various greeters: -T
Autologin:
References: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_autologin Note: this reference is missing "autologin-session=true"
http://www.perturb.org/display/812_GDM_AutoLogin.html http://www.linfo.org/automatic_login.html
http://www.freetechie.com/blog/kubuntuand-kde-4-user-auto-login/
You have three possible Screen Managers (the login thingy):
gdm: gnome lightdm: lxde, xfce, MATE-Compiz kdmrc: KDE4
To double check: $ ps ax | grep -i "lightdm|gdm|kdmrc" | grep -v grep
lxdm auto login:
# vi /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[base] ## uncomment and set autologin username to enable autologin # autologin=todd autologin=todd
## default session or desktop used when no systemwide config # session=/usr/bin/startlxde session=/usr/bin/startxfce4
Note for Mate: session=/usr/bin/mate-session
GDM:
It only auto-logs in on first boot, and it must be a non-root user.
# vi /etc/gdm/custom.conf: [daemon] AutomaticLoginEnable=true AutomaticLogin=whatever_username <---- replace this!!! TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=whatever_username <---- replace this!!! TimedLoginDelay=0
The autologin doesn't require a reboot to work, just issue the following command: Note: this will knock you off your desktop!
SL6: # /etc/init.d/gdm restart SL7: # sysctl restart gdm.service <--knocks you off your desktop
Lightdm:
edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf:
FC24-: [SeatDefaults] pam-autologin-service=lightdm-autologin user-session=xfce # optional session-wrapper=/etc/X11/xinit/Xsession # note: the default autologin-user=tony autologin-user-timeout=0 autologin-session=true
FC25+: [SeatDefaults] autologin-user=tony autologin-user-timeout=0
FC27: [Seat:*] autologin-user=tony autologin-user-timeout=0
Set up LightDM and PAM and autologin
# groupadd autologin # gpasswd --add tony autologin # reboot
KDMRC (not verified, use at own risk):
edit /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc:
[X-:0-Core] AutoLoginEnable=true AutoLoginLocked=false AutoLoginUser=bkevan ClientLogFile=.xsession-errors
On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:21:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/27/25 10:48 AM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:26:33 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up~# rpm -qa *dm
Hi Todd!
I get
libblockdev-dm-3.3.0-3.fc42.x86_64 mdadm-4.3-7.fc42.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-13.fc42.x86_64 gdm-48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
It looks like you are running both gdm and lightdm as greeters.
If you are running gnome desktop, you really should remove lightdm. If you are running Xfce, MATE or others, you should remove gdm.
I'm running Mate, and have been since it came out. AfaIk, it has always been, and still is, Mate-Compiz. I haven't played with Compiz, nor even learned what it is. It has always just worked.
I do want to learn more about those autologin notes, but let's open another thread for them. For now, do I just do dnf remove gnome??
On 4/27/25 12:28 PM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 11:21:39 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/27/25 10:48 AM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:26:33 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up~# rpm -qa *dm
Hi Todd!
I get
libblockdev-dm-3.3.0-3.fc42.x86_64 mdadm-4.3-7.fc42.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-13.fc42.x86_64 gdm-48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
It looks like you are running both gdm and lightdm as greeters.
If you are running gnome desktop, you really should remove lightdm. If you are running Xfce, MATE or others, you should remove gdm.
I'm running Mate, and have been since it came out. AfaIk, it has always been, and still is, Mate-Compiz. I haven't played with Compiz, nor even learned what it is. It has always just worked.
I do want to learn more about those autologin notes, but let's open another thread for them. For now, do I just do dnf remove gnome??
If you are running MATE and do not ever want to run gnome, then yes, remove gnome. (I personally find gnome to weird to be usable.) You can always put it back later.
sudo dnf group remove gnome-desktop
On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 11:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/27/25 10:48 AM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:26:33 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up~# rpm -qa *dm
Hi Todd!
I get
libblockdev-dm-3.3.0-3.fc42.x86_64 mdadm-4.3-7.fc42.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-13.fc42.x86_64 gdm-48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
It looks like you are running both gdm and lightdm as greeters.
If you are running gnome desktop, you really should remove lightdm. If you are running Xfce, MATE or others, you should remove gdm.
Here are my note on autologon for teh various greeters:
There's no need to remove any of them. You can only use one at a time so the presence of others is irrelevant.
poc
On 4/27/25 3:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 11:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 4/27/25 10:48 AM, Beartooth via users wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 16:26:33 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Beartooth,
from the command line, run: $ rpm -qa *dm
and report back what pops up~# rpm -qa *dm
Hi Todd!
I get
libblockdev-dm-3.3.0-3.fc42.x86_64 mdadm-4.3-7.fc42.x86_64 lightdm-1.32.0-13.fc42.x86_64 gdm-48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
It looks like you are running both gdm and lightdm as greeters.
If you are running gnome desktop, you really should remove lightdm. If you are running Xfce, MATE or others, you should remove gdm.
Here are my note on autologon for teh various greeters:
There's no need to remove any of them. You can only use one at a time so the presence of others is irrelevant.
poc
Every time I have had two going, it has been an unpredictable mess. This not suppose to be the case?
On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 20:37 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Every time I have had two going, it has been an unpredictable mess. This not suppose to be the case?
Installed doesn't mean active...
Oddly enough I have two installed, but only one is set to go.
Looking on an old installation, where I only ever remember installing a Mate spin and never trying to install any alternative greeters, I have LightDM & GDM.
And "systemctl status display-manager" says it's using GDM.
On Sun, 2025-04-27 at 20:37 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
There's no need to remove any of them. You can only use one at a time so the presence of others is irrelevant.
poc
Every time I have had two going, it has been an unpredictable mess. This not suppose to be the case?
It's not possible to have two login managers running concurrently, unless there's something *very* wrong. The fact that several are installed means nothing, as only one will be enabled.
poc
On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 19:34:34 -0000 (UTC), Beartooth via users wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
With Fedora Workstation and GDM, you can do this: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/login-automatic.html....
On Sunday, 20 April 2025 15:34:34 EDT Beartooth via users wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and such visitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do we get rid of it??
For KDE, this happened when I upgraded to f41. Not only that but the configuration in the settings application was removed. I wonder why the developers do these things? Other settings were changed, too, like my konsole preferences. Jeesh.
If you're using KDE, then add /etc/sddm.conf with these lines:
[Autologin] User=FOO Session=plasma.desktop
Change "FOO" to your login name.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 12:00 AM Garry T. Williams gtwilliams@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, 20 April 2025 15:34:34 EDT Beartooth via users wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and suchvisitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do weget rid of it??
For KDE, this happened when I upgraded to f41. Not only that but the configuration in the settings application was removed. I wonder why the developers do these things? Other settings were changed, too, like my konsole preferences. Jeesh.
If you're using KDE, then add /etc/sddm.conf with these lines:
[Autologin] User=FOO Session=plasma.desktopChange "FOO" to your login name.
This may help to determine if SDDM is installed:
$ dnf list installed *sddm* Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. Installed packages kde-settings-sddm.noarch 42.0-3.fc42 fedora sddm.x86_64 0.21.0-9.fc42 fedora sddm-breeze.noarch 6.3.4-2.fc42 updates sddm-kcm.x86_64 6.3.4-1.fc42 fedora sddm-wayland-plasma.noarch 6.3.4-3.fc42 updates
And if SDDM is installed, Arch has a nice page on SDDM at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SDDM.
Jeff
On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 4:36 PM Beartooth via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
My spouse & I live in our own house, just the two of us, and suchvisitors as appear are adult friends. We've been running Fedora since it was RedHat7, with never a login screen. Nor has that absence ever made trouble.
Same here, and we have dogs. For years we didn't lock doors, but there are now people sneaking around at night looking of unlocked doors or breaking into locked buildings.
Now F42 has inflicted one on our every PC. We HATE it. How do weget rid of it??
I'm concerned about break ins. Some financial institutions I use need BlueTooth to check for the presence of my phone. A login method that skips prompts if the right phone is present could be a good compromise.
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