I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Mogens
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Mogens
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
Mark Haney wrote:
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Mogens
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
use method hard drive. you need to put the .iso image on a partition that you wont be formatting.
then the installer asks you which partition, and the folder {from memory}.
DaveT.
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:44:14AM +1000, David Timms wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
use method hard drive. you need to put the .iso image on a partition that you wont be formatting.
then the installer asks you which partition, and the folder {from memory}.
That works. Or:
* Put the ISO on another machine, and install via NFS (fastest), HTTP or FTP. Properly set up, this works very nicely with kickstart.
* Buy a USB clam shell and put a DVD drive in it. Yes, I know, we're all allergic to spending money. I even used this trick to install on my ancient laptop with USB 1.1 on it. Slow but it works.
* Use a live CD to install, then use the network to go from there, via either a local or a remote repository.
Charles Curley wrote:
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
use method hard drive. you need to put the .iso image on a partition that you wont be formatting.
then the installer asks you which partition, and the folder {from memory}.
That works. Or:
Put the ISO on another machine, and install via NFS (fastest), HTTP or FTP. Properly set up, this works very nicely with kickstart.
Buy a USB clam shell and put a DVD drive in it. Yes, I know, we're all allergic to spending money. I even used this trick to install on my ancient laptop with USB 1.1 on it. Slow but it works.
Is there a way to put the dvd image file or directory of CD iso images on a USB external flash or hard drive, boot from something else (perhaps another USB flash drive with the boot image copied to it) and install from those image copies?
At 11:01 AM -0500 5/31/07, Les Mikesell wrote:
Charles Curley wrote:
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
use method hard drive. you need to put the .iso image on a partition that you wont be formatting.
then the installer asks you which partition, and the folder {from memory}.
That works. Or:
Put the ISO on another machine, and install via NFS (fastest), HTTP or FTP. Properly set up, this works very nicely with kickstart.
Buy a USB clam shell and put a DVD drive in it. Yes, I know, we're all allergic to spending money. I even used this trick to install on my ancient laptop with USB 1.1 on it. Slow but it works.
Is there a way to put the dvd image file or directory of CD iso images on a USB external flash or hard drive, boot from something else (perhaps another USB flash drive with the boot image copied to it) and install from those image copies?
"linux askmethod" should work.
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:01:15 -0500, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a way to put the dvd image file or directory of CD iso images on a USB external flash or hard drive, boot from something else (perhaps another USB flash drive with the boot image copied to it) and install from those image copies?
The file needs to be out of the way (not on a partition that is being formatted or accessed as part of a raid array).
You can put the boot, kernel and initrd images in /boot and modify your grub.conf to add them as a boot option and then reboot and select the install image.
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 10:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Mogens
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
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Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 10:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Mogens
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
You mount the iso....
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 05:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 10:12 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Mogens
And for those of us with boxes that don't have DVD drives?
You mount the iso....
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
Well each to his own way of doing things. You need to factor in the case when after the 11 hours your DVD does not pass the mediacheck and you need to start over.
Aaron Konstam wrote:
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
Well each to his own way of doing things. You need to factor in the case when after the 11 hours your DVD does not pass the mediacheck and you need to start over.
Would rsync save time in such a case, as a matter of interest?
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
Well each to his own way of doing things. You need to factor in the case when after the 11 hours your DVD does not pass the mediacheck and you need to start over.
Would rsync save time in such a case, as a matter of interest?\
Yes. rsync can be used to fix broken downloads.
Rahul
Aaron Konstam wrote:
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
Well each to his own way of doing things. You need to factor in the case when after the 11 hours your DVD does not pass the mediacheck and you need to start over.
Well, guess what?
It was less than 11 hrs. I got plenty of sleep and it passed the media check. So, there was not cost.
Are you getting kickbacks?
At 12:10 AM +0800 6/2/07, Ed Greshko wrote: ...
Are you getting kickbacks?
Troll.
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 00:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
Well each to his own way of doing things. You need to factor in the case when after the 11 hours your DVD does not pass the mediacheck and you need to start over.
Well, guess what?
It was less than 11 hrs. I got plenty of sleep and it passed the media check. So, there was not cost.
Are you getting kickbacks?
No but if you read the web pages that Rahul referred to.
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f7/en_US/sn-which-files.html
Fedora's advice is if you don't have a fast Internet connection and you don't have a DVD drive you buy your media from a vendor.
Not having the CD images available for download will not go well with those with older machines. I don't know what Fedora is thinking.
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Aaron Konstam wrote:
No but if you read the web pages that Rahul referred to.
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f7/en_US/sn-which-files.html
Fedora's advice is if you don't have a fast Internet connection and you don't have a DVD drive you buy your media from a vendor.
Right... But your original message was using wait 11 hrs v.s. buying something and having it shipped to you. The second item would take much more than 11 hrs and will cost you.
Not having the CD images available for download will not go well with those with older machines. I don't know what Fedora is thinking.
Yikes..... A while back folks were complaining that Fedora didn't provide a DVD and were bitching that they had to down load a bunch of CD's and sit in front of their systems and put in CD 2, 3, etc when called for.
Now you have the "live CD" and you can then download additional stuff as needed.
Sounds to me like there is no way to keep everyone happy.....which is about right. You can keep some of the people happy all of the time........and I thin you know the rest.
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 00:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
I need to say this periodically. For those who don't have 11 hours to waste your can get CDs and DVDs , no doubt , in a few days from: www.cheapbytes.com. It is cheap and trauma free.
Let's see....
Wait 11hrs, 8 of them sleeping, or spend time ordering from cheapbytes and wait, what, 48 hrs? I think I know what path I'd pick. :-)
Well each to his own way of doing things. You need to factor in the case when after the 11 hours your DVD does not pass the mediacheck and you need to start over.
Well, guess what?
It was less than 11 hrs. I got plenty of sleep and it passed the media check. So, there was not cost.
Are you getting kickbacks?
No but if you read the web pages that Rahul referred to.
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f7/en_US/sn-which-files.html
Fedora's advice is if you don't have a fast Internet connection and you don't have a DVD drive you buy your media from a vendor.
Not having the CD images available for download will not go well with those with older machines. I don't know what Fedora is thinking.
Incorrect. I have pointed out several times in this list that we provided Live CD's.
Rahul
At 10:09 AM 5/31/2007, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
<MK>>>>>It contains DVD and rescue CD.<<<<<
Good morning, Mogens.
I have been told that since Core and Extras have been merged into one, the actual distribution was somewhere in the 9-gigabyte range and that they found they were being "hard pressed" to make it fit onto two DVDs.
However, torrent.fedoraproject.org lists "Fedora 7 i386" as being only 2.8 gigabytes in size.
I'm currently away from home and operating on a dog-slow DSL connection (768K down 128K up, at best), and if I'm going to bittorrent this I just want to make sure I'm getting the right one since it's likely to take a couple of days to get it all.
Thanks...
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:20:23 -0400, Eric spamsink@scoot.netis.com wrote:
At 10:09 AM 5/31/2007, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
I have been told that since Core and Extras have been merged into one, the actual distribution was somewhere in the 9-gigabyte range and that they found they were being "hard pressed" to make it fit onto two DVDs.
There doesn't seem to be an everything torrent at this time. The mirrors have all of the rpms available though, so you can add packages from them after you do the base install.
Em Qui 31 Mai 2007, Mogens Kjaer escreveu:
Mark Haney wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
It contains DVD and rescue CD.
Does the DVD contains gnome and KDE? I found KDE spins only for the live CDs.
[]'s Marcelo
Marcelo Magno T. Sales <marcelo.sales <at> sefaz.pe.gov.br> writes:
Does the DVD contains gnome and KDE? I found KDE spins only for the live CDs.
The installer DVD contains both, the live CDs are pick one. (The one labeled just "Live" has GNOME on it. They must have been so ashamed about that that they didn't dare writing it. ;-) Just kidding, please don't lynch me. ;-) )
Kevin Kofler
On 5/31/07, Mark Haney mhaney@ercbroadband.org wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
DVD. If you wish to install by CD you must use a LiveCD. I believe this was decided some time ago.
-Mauriat
Mauriat M wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Haney mhaney@ercbroadband.org wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
DVD. If you wish to install by CD you must use a LiveCD. I believe this was decided some time ago.
-Mauriat
And I'm sure it was, however, the short bus I ride didn't make to that meeting. :)
Thanks.
On 5/31/07, Mark Haney mhaney@ercbroadband.org wrote:
Mauriat M wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Haney mhaney@ercbroadband.org wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
DVD. If you wish to install by CD you must use a LiveCD. I believe this was decided some time ago.
-Mauriat
And I'm sure it was, however, the short bus I ride didn't make to that meeting. :)
I was not happy with the decision either. Although I've had a DVD drive for years. Every single install I ever did was with multiple CD ISO's. Ironically I bought a DVD burner just in time for this release :-P
-Mauriat
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:23:10AM -0400, Thom Paine wrote:
Put the iso on your server and install via nfs across the lan?
Or, if you're just doing one install, skip getting the ISO and just do an http or ftp install.
Can you explain more about this? I have 1 server and Fedora box that need to be updated. What would be the easiest way to install this? From the iso or do an ftp or http install if http or ftp can you explain more clearly how to go about this? I am used to the cd's so I am learning as I go.
Scott
-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Miller Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:11 AM To: For users of Fedora Subject: Re: F7 torrents
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:23:10AM -0400, Thom Paine wrote:
Put the iso on your server and install via nfs across the lan?
Or, if you're just doing one install, skip getting the ISO and just do an http or ftp install.
At 10:20 AM -0400 5/31/07, Mauriat M wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Haney mhaney@ercbroadband.org wrote:
Mauriat M wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Haney mhaney@ercbroadband.org wrote:
I'm noticing on torrent.fedoraproject.org that there's an i386 torrent that's 2.8GB, but it doesn't say if it's DVD or CD versions. Am I missing something?
DVD. If you wish to install by CD you must use a LiveCD. I believe this was decided some time ago.
-Mauriat
And I'm sure it was, however, the short bus I ride didn't make to that meeting. :)
I was not happy with the decision either. Although I've had a DVD drive for years. Every single install I ever did was with multiple CD ISO's. Ironically I bought a DVD burner just in time for this release :-P
Although I'm going to burn the DVD, I'm going to install (upgrade) by booting the Rescue CD and doing an askmethod install from another partition of the local hard disk. It's even possible to not burn anything and install by rebooting.
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