I've added an entry with Menu Editor (right click on f-button in panel) to enable ssh -Y <remote host>. I've set "Run in terminal" on the Advanced tab.
This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this.
On another laptop, with exactly the Menu Editor setting I get a nice page with the usual File-Edit-View tabs at the top.
I'm wondering what actually sets the look of the screen? Is it a default konsole setting, or is it something to do with ssh? Or perhaps a shell setting?
I see that there is Menu Editor setting with "Run in terminal" to set Terminal options, but nothing I have tried there has has any effect.
I should say that I am running Fedora-13/KDE on this laptop. Any and all advice gratefully received.
On 08/02/10 12:39, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I've added an entry with Menu Editor (right click on f-button in panel) to enable ssh -Y <remote host>. I've set "Run in terminal" on the Advanced tab.
This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this.
On another laptop, with exactly the Menu Editor setting I get a nice page with the usual File-Edit-View tabs at the top.
I'm wondering what actually sets the look of the screen? Is it a default konsole setting, or is it something to do with ssh? Or perhaps a shell setting?
I see that there is Menu Editor setting with "Run in terminal" to set Terminal options, but nothing I have tried there has has any effect.
I should say that I am running Fedora-13/KDE on this laptop. Any and all advice gratefully received.
Tim,
I tried that (under gnome), but all OK (gnome-terminal started automatically, no such behaviour as you described, no modified screen layout). Your terminal is gnome-terminal?
Joachim Backes wrote:
I've added an entry with Menu Editor (right click on f-button in panel) to enable ssh -Y <remote host>. I've set "Run in terminal" on the Advanced tab.
This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this.
I should say that I am running Fedora-13/KDE on this laptop.
I tried that (under gnome), but all OK (gnome-terminal started automatically, no such behaviour as you described, no modified screen layout). Your terminal is gnome-terminal?
Thanks for your response. My terminal is konsole. As I mentioned, I only have the problem on this laptop. It works fine on several other computers.
On 08/02/2010 06:39 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I've added an entry with Menu Editor (right click on f-button in panel) to enable ssh -Y <remote host>. I've set "Run in terminal" on the Advanced tab.
This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this.
On another laptop, with exactly the Menu Editor setting I get a nice page with the usual File-Edit-View tabs at the top.
I'm wondering what actually sets the look of the screen? Is it a default konsole setting, or is it something to do with ssh? Or perhaps a shell setting?
I see that there is Menu Editor setting with "Run in terminal" to set Terminal options, but nothing I have tried there has has any effect.
I should say that I am running Fedora-13/KDE on this laptop. Any and all advice gratefully received.
Works fine here in F13 under KDE. The "terminal" in use is konsole. I have created a profile with the settings that I want...white background, black text. In the menu item in the Advanced section I specify terminal options with --profile and the name of the created profile.
FYI/FWIW, typing "konsole --help" gives you the available command options.
Ed Greshko wrote:
I've added an entry with Menu Editor (right click on f-button in panel) to enable ssh -Y <remote host>. I've set "Run in terminal" on the Advanced tab.
This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this.
On another laptop, with exactly the Menu Editor setting I get a nice page with the usual File-Edit-View tabs at the top.
I should say that I am running Fedora-13/KDE on this laptop. Any and all advice gratefully received.
Works fine here in F13 under KDE. The "terminal" in use is konsole. I have created a profile with the settings that I want...white background, black text. In the menu item in the Advanced section I specify terminal options with --profile and the name of the created profile.
Thanks for your response. I tried your suggestion, entering "--profile Default" in Terminal options, but it seemed to have no effect. My Default profile is black on light yellow.
As I mentioned I have no problems on other laptops. (I'm in Italy at the moment, and only have this laptop.) It's not a serious problem, as I can get the desired effect by opening a konsole window and typing in the command "ssh -Y helen-vpn".
But I'm puzzled as to what is controlling the terminal settings.
I don't think it is just a konsole problem as the window lacks the usual File-Edit-View heading.
On 08/02/2010 08:12 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
But I'm puzzled as to what is controlling the terminal settings.
Well, earlier you said: "This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this". Does that mean the terminal that is opened when you click on the menu item has no border or menu? Since the terminal options are seemingly ignored, I wonder if it is actually konsole that is being used.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 08/02/2010 08:12 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
But I'm puzzled as to what is controlling the terminal settings.
Well, earlier you said: "This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this". Does that mean the terminal that is opened when you click on the menu item has no border or menu? Since the terminal options are seemingly ignored, I wonder if it is actually konsole that is being used.
Ed,
I'm wondering the same thing.
Timothy,
When you launch your application and are seeing the unexpected behavior, can you use ps -ef to check to see if what you're actually using is perhaps xterm? If you hold down Control and then press the left mouse button with the cursor in the window, do you get a menu in an old fashioned font with the heading "Main Options"?
Ed Greshko wrote:
Well, earlier you said: "This works, except that I get a white-on-black screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change this". Does that mean the terminal that is opened when you click on the menu item has no border or menu? Since the terminal options are seemingly ignored, I wonder if it is actually konsole that is being used.
Thanks for the suggestion. I very much suspect that you are right, and the command creates an xterm window - I created a window in another desktop with "xterm &", and it looks exactly the same.
But if so, what determines that xterm is used, rather than konsole?
I guess I could study "man xterm", to see how to change the colours, but it would be much easier to change to konsole, if that is possible.
On 08/03/2010 07:43 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion. I very much suspect that you are right, and the command creates an xterm window - I created a window in another desktop with "xterm &", and it looks exactly the same.
But if so, what determines that xterm is used, rather than konsole?
That is a very good question/mystery. I thought that it may have been determined by the "Preferred Applications" setting. However, changing it to xterm on my system and logging out/in didn't recreate your problem.
I also thought that maybe creating the menu item embedded the terminal command in the menu file/item. That also proved wrong....
[egreshko@f13 init.d]$ cat /home/egreshko/.local/share/applications/misty\ -\ ssh.desktop
[Desktop Entry] Comment= Exec=ssh -Y 192.168.0.198 Name=misty - ssh NoDisplay=false Path[$e]=$HOME/ StartupNotify=true Terminal=1 TerminalOptions=--profile Misty Type=Application X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false X-KDE-Username=
So, I don't know what determines which terminal application will be used by the menu. I hope to have some time later in the day to explore as this "bugging" me. :-)
--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net wrote:
From: Timothy Murphy gayleard@eircom.net Subject: Re: Menu Editor To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 4:43 PM Ed Greshko wrote:
Well, earlier you said: "This works, except that I get
a white-on-black
screen with nothing at the top of the screen to change
this". Does
that mean the terminal that is opened when you click
on the menu item
has no border or menu? Since the
terminal options are seemingly
ignored, I wonder if it is actually konsole that is
being used.
Thanks for the suggestion. I very much suspect that you are right, and the command creates an xterm window - I created a window in another desktop with "xterm &", and it looks exactly the same.
But if so, what determines that xterm is used, rather than konsole?
I guess I could study "man xterm", to see how to change the colours, but it would be much easier to change to konsole, if that is possible.
--
The colors can be changed see what does the following do:
xterm -display :0 -bg black -fg white \
and you can invert it the other way and find one setting that you are happy with :)
Regards,
Antonio
Antonio Olivares wrote:
The colors can be changed see what does the following do:
xterm -display :0 -bg black -fg white \
and you can invert it the other way and find one setting that you are happy with :)
Thanks for your response.
But if I give this command in the black window (on the remote machine) I get ------------------------------------------ [tim@althea ~]$ xterm -display :0 -bg black -fg white Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0 xterm: DISPLAY is not set ------------------------------------------
Adding "-display :0 -bg black -fg white" to Terminal options does not seem to have any effect, nor does "-bg black -fg white".
On 08/03/2010 08:50 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Antonio Olivares wrote:
The colors can be changed see what does the following do:
xterm -display :0 -bg black -fg white \
and you can invert it the other way and find one setting that you are happy with :)
Thanks for your response.
But if I give this command in the black window (on the remote machine) I get
[tim@althea ~]$ xterm -display :0 -bg black -fg white Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0 xterm: DISPLAY is not set
That is the expected result.
You are running "xterm" on the remote machine and the -display :0 parameter is instructing it to open an xterm on the remote machine. The message is indicating that "X" isn't running on the remote machine. If it were, and if the X server was configure to allow connections, the command would have appeared to hang as an xterm window would be open on the remote machine. (I'm guessing you aren't in physical proximity to the remote machine.)
Adding "-display :0 -bg black -fg white" to Terminal options does not seem to have any effect, nor does "-bg black -fg white".
I still would verify exactly what terminal program is being started on the local machine. You can't do this in the terminal that the menu item starts since you've ssh'd to the remote machine.
You will have to open a konsole or gnome terminal on the local machine....run the menu item...and then check to see if you have an xterm running....or something else.
Ed
Ed Greshko wrote:
I still would verify exactly what terminal program is being started on the local machine. You can't do this in the terminal that the menu item starts since you've ssh'd to the remote machine.
You will have to open a konsole or gnome terminal on the local machine....run the menu item...and then check to see if you have an xterm running....or something else.
Thanks for your continuing help.
Actually "ps aux" does not contain any mention of xterm, but does contain the entry konsole -caption=helen -icon -e /usr/bin/ssh -Y helen-vpn only when the menu item is running.
My ignorant feeling is that a konsole window is opened, and then the ssh command creates the white-on-black window.
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