Folks, yesterday afternoon I started having some strange things occurring on my F27 system with MATE desktop. First issue is that when I tried to logout it didn't, even though it prompted for logout. What's interesting is that the "System" pulldown menu was missing the "Shutdown" option and the confirmation dialog only had 2 buttons, "Logout" and "Cancel". What happened after I clicked logout is that my session restarted all the apps I had running restarted, but now I had 2 volume control applets and 2 NetworkManager applets in the top panel. I tried again, this time though the "Shutdown" option re-appeared in the "System" pull down menu. However, my session restarted and now there were 3 volume control applets and 3 NetworkManager applets in the top panel. I tried again, and again my session restarted with now 4 volume control applets and 4 NetworkManager applets. In each case so far there were only 2 buttons on the logout confirmation dialog. I tried again, but this time the logout confirmation dialog had 3 buttons, I clicked on logout and this time it finally did log me out.
The second issue is that now whenever I plug in an external USB drive I get a popup saying I'm not authorized to perform the operation. This last issue is really annoying since it has always worked. I haven't changed anything so I have no idea what suddenly caused these problems to occur.
What's interesting about this last issue is that sometimes it does mount the drive when I login, however, if I unmount it, unplug it and plug it back in I get the "Not authorized to perform operation" message.
These 2 problems only occur on one of my 2 F27 systems running MATE.
Anyone know what might have changed and how do I fix it?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks, Paolo
On Thu, 17 May 2018 08:39:24 -0700 Paolo Galtieri pgaltieri@gmail.com wrote:
on my F27 system with MATE desktop. First issue is that when I tried to logout it didn't, even though it prompted for logout. What's
The second issue is that now whenever I plug in an external USB drive I get a popup saying I'm not authorized to perform the operation.
What's interesting about this last issue is that sometimes it does mount the drive when I login, however, if I unmount it, unplug it and plug it back in I get the "Not authorized to perform operation" message.
These 2 problems only occur on one of my 2 F27 systems running MATE.
Anyone know what might have changed and how do I fix it?
No real help, but these sound like timing issues because of the intermittent behavior. Anything using lots of CPU or disk at the time the problems occur?
The system is about 80% idle. What is interesting is I tried using the Gnome Classic desktop and I had the same issue regarding logging out. The difference is I was never able to logout of Gnome Classic until I killed off the processes. I also found an curious issue. The system this problem is occuring on is a laptop, and I have an external monitor attached. When I loggen into Gnome Classic the external monitor was an extension of the laptop display, i.e. I move the mouse off the right side of the laptop display and it shows up on the external monitor. I changed the configuration so that the external monitor showed the same as the laptop display. I also added an icon for gnome-terminal on the desktop. So far so good. When I logged out of Gnome Classic and logged back in to MATE the display configuration had changed from what it was before, now under MATE the external monitor was no longer a clone of the laptop display as it was previously, and there was now an icon for the terminal app on the MATE desktop which there was not previously. I also was unable to mount any external drive under Gnome Classic either, and I got no message about not being authorized.
Is there some kind of interaction between Gnome Classic and MATE?
As I mentioned I have a second F27 system which does not exhibit these problems. On both of these systems I have installed VirtualBox from Oracle. I also installed the VirtualBox extension pack. On one system, the one that does not show any issues, the install went fine. On the one having the problems, the install of the extension pack failed with the following error:
The installer failed with exit code 127: Error creating textual authentication agent: Error opening current controlling terminal for the process (`/dev/tty'): No such device or address.
I checked /dev/tty does exist.
Any ideas?
Paolo
On 05/17/2018 10:38 AM, stan wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2018 08:39:24 -0700 Paolo Galtieripgaltieri@gmail.com wrote:
on my F27 system with MATE desktop. First issue is that when I tried to logout it didn't, even though it prompted for logout. What's
The second issue is that now whenever I plug in an external USB drive I get a popup saying I'm not authorized to perform the operation. What's interesting about this last issue is that sometimes it does mount the drive when I login, however, if I unmount it, unplug it and plug it back in I get the "Not authorized to perform operation" message.
These 2 problems only occur on one of my 2 F27 systems running MATE.
Anyone know what might have changed and how do I fix it?
No real help, but these sound like timing issues because of the intermittent behavior. Anything using lots of CPU or disk at the time the problems occur? _______________________________________________ users mailing list --users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email tousers-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives:https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
On Thu, 17 May 2018 12:51:47 -0700 Paolo Galtieri pgaltieri@gmail.com wrote:
The system is about 80% idle. What is interesting is I tried using the Gnome Classic desktop and I had the same issue regarding logging out. The difference is I was never able to logout of Gnome Classic until I killed off the processes. I also found an curious issue. The system this problem is occuring on is a laptop, and I have an external monitor attached. When I loggen into Gnome Classic the external monitor was an extension of the laptop display, i.e. I move the mouse off the right side of the laptop display and it shows up on the external monitor. I changed the configuration so that the external monitor showed the same as the laptop display. I also added an icon for gnome-terminal on the desktop. So far so good. When I logged out of Gnome Classic and logged back in to MATE the display configuration had changed from what it was before, now under MATE the external monitor was no longer a clone of the laptop display as it was previously, and there was now an icon for the terminal app on the MATE desktop which there was not previously. I also was unable to mount any external drive under Gnome Classic either, and I got no message about not being authorized.
Is there some kind of interaction between Gnome Classic and MATE?
From memory, mate is based on Gnome GTK2, while Gnome Classic is a desktop environment similar to Gnome2, but based on GTK3. So there shouldn't be code overlap. But it might be that some configuration settings are in conflict, as they are both trying to emulate Gnome2.
As I mentioned I have a second F27 system which does not exhibit these problems. On both of these systems I have installed VirtualBox from Oracle. I also installed the VirtualBox extension pack. On one system, the one that does not show any issues, the install went fine. On the one having the problems, the install of the extension pack failed with the following error:
The installer failed with exit code 127: Error creating textual authentication agent: Error opening current controlling terminal for the process (`/dev/tty'): No such device or address.
I checked /dev/tty does exist.
It might be that something else is using the device, and the error message is generic and only says doesn't exist instead of unavailable.
Any ideas?
Again, not any good ones. On the system that isn't working, you could remove the virtualbox extension pack, and then install it again to see if it can bypass the error.
And, is it possible there is some hardware error? Is air circulation good (might be overheating)? Try a memory check to see if memory has issues. Run a diagnostic on the hard drive to see if it is in pre-failure mode.
On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 12:51 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
I also found an curious issue. The system this problem is occuring on is a laptop, and I have an external monitor attached. When I loggen into Gnome Classic the external monitor was an extension of the laptop display, i.e. I move the mouse off the right side of the laptop display and it shows up on the external monitor. I changed the configuration so that the external monitor showed the same as the laptop display. I also added an icon for gnome-terminal on the desktop. So far so good. When I logged out of Gnome Classic and logged back in to MATE the display configuration had changed from what it was before, now under MATE the external monitor was no longer a clone of the laptop display as it was previously, and there was now an icon for the terminal app on the MATE desktop which there was not previously.
Dunno about the other problems but those two behaviors are normal. ~/Desktop is a standardized location so both desktop environments will see a .desktop file dropped there. The monitor config is different though. mate-display-properties and Gnome's tool will store information in their own place and in their own way. You will have to configure it in both. And good luck getting one of them to actually save the default the login box will use because then you get into a combinational explosion where each possible display manager might use parts of any desktop environment to get that information from, but being Fedora will probably want to be configured by Gnome 3 unless you have swapped out the default login.
Allegedly, on or about 17 May 2018, John Morris sent:
Dunno about the other problems but those two behaviors are normal. ~/Desktop is a standardized location so both desktop environments will see a .desktop file dropped there.
Well some window managers will use that for any file that's visible on the deskop.
And that location can be changed, there's a file that configures what actual directory is used for the desktop. It's important for internationalisation of the computer, so that everyone gets common folders in their own language.
The monitor config is different though. mate-display-properties and Gnome's tool will store information in their own place and in their own way. You will have to configure it in both.
For MATE, and perhaps others, it's a monitors.xml file
$ locate monitors.xml /etc/mate-settings-daemon/xrandr/monitors.xml /home/tim/.config/monitors.xml
The first would appear to be a default, the second is one when I set up my system (it'll be an override).
And good luck getting one of them to actually save the default the login box will use
The login screen runs as its own user, and you can copy the configuration file (that you use) into their homespace.
It's necessary that ordinary users can't change the login screen, at least on multi-user systems that you don't own. Only an admin should be able to that. The login screen is a security function.
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