What's up with firefox on f26?

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

A recent update asked to remove firefox (55.0.1-1.fc26), and when I followed with an install
I ended with the old version 54.0-2.fc26 installed.

Attempting to upgrade to the latest goes nowhere (see below).
I found a redhat bugzilla regarding an unwise decision to force an unnecessary dependency
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484345
mentioning there is a new package (firefox-55.0.2-3), but it is not showing up.

Anyone knows what is going on with this?
Firefox is the most 'net facing application here and I need to have the latest version installed.

TIA

==
$ sudo dnf update firefox
Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:37 ago on Mon Aug 28 09:49:01 2017.
Dependencies resolved.

Problem: problem with installed package nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
   - package firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64 conflicts with pkgconfig(nspr) >= 4.16 provided by nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
   - cannot install the best update candidate for package firefox-54.0-2.fc26.x86_64
==============================================================================================================
  Package                   Arch                  Version                         Repository              Size
==============================================================================================================
Skipping packages with conflicts:
(add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade):
  firefox                   x86_64                55.0.2-2.fc26                   updates                 82 M
  nspr-devel                x86_64                4.16.0-1.fc26                   updates                119 k

Transaction Summary
==============================================================================================================
Skip  2 Packages

Nothing to do.
Complete!

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/28/2017 08:03 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> A recent update asked to remove firefox (55.0.1-1.fc26), and when I followed with
> an install
> I ended with the old version 54.0-2.fc26 installed.
>
> Attempting to upgrade to the latest goes nowhere (see below).
> I found a redhat bugzilla regarding an unwise decision to force an unnecessary
> dependency
>     https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484345
> mentioning there is a new package (firefox-55.0.2-3), but it is not showing up.
>
> Anyone knows what is going on with this?
> Firefox is the most 'net facing application here and I need to have the latest
> version installed.
>
> TIA
>
> ==
> $ sudo dnf update firefox
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:37 ago on Mon Aug 28 09:49:01 2017.
> Dependencies resolved.
>
> Problem: problem with installed package nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
>   - package firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64 conflicts with pkgconfig(nspr) >= 4.16
> provided by nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
>   - cannot install the best update candidate for package firefox-54.0-2.fc26.x86_64
> ==============================================================================================================
>
> Package                   Arch                  Version                        
> Repository              Size
> ==============================================================================================================
>
> Skipping packages with conflicts:
> (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade):
>  firefox                   x86_64                55.0.2-2.fc26                  
> updates                 82 M
>  nspr-devel                x86_64                4.16.0-1.fc26                  
> updates                119 k
> Transaction Summary
>
> Skip  2 Packages
>
> Nothing to do.
> Complete!

If you don't need it, or can do without it for a while, do a "dnf erase nspr-devel"
and then update firefox.

[egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q firefox
firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64
[egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q nspr-devel
package nspr-devel is not installed

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

On 28/08/17 10:11, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 08:03 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > A recent update asked to remove firefox (55.0.1-1.fc26), and when I followed with
> > an install
> > I ended with the old version 54.0-2.fc26 installed.
> >
> > Attempting to upgrade to the latest goes nowhere (see below).
> > I found a redhat bugzilla regarding an unwise decision to force an unnecessary
> > dependency
> >      https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484345
> > mentioning there is a new package (firefox-55.0.2-3), but it is not showing up.
> >
> > Anyone knows what is going on with this?
> > Firefox is the most 'net facing application here and I need to have the latest
> > version installed.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > ==
> > $ sudo dnf update firefox
> > Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:37 ago on Mon Aug 28 09:49:01 2017.
> > Dependencies resolved.
> >
> > Problem: problem with installed package nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
> >    - package firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64 conflicts with pkgconfig(nspr) >= 4.16
> > provided by nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
> >    - cannot install the best update candidate for package firefox-54.0-2.fc26.x86_64
> > ==============================================================================================================
> >
> > Package                   Arch                  Version
> > Repository              Size
> > ==============================================================================================================
> >
> > Skipping packages with conflicts:
> > (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade):
> >   firefox                   x86_64                55.0.2-2.fc26
> > updates                 82 M
> >   nspr-devel                x86_64                4.16.0-1.fc26
> > updates                119 k
> > Transaction Summary
> >
> > Skip  2 Packages
> >
> > Nothing to do.
> > Complete!
>
> If you don't need it, or can do without it for a while, do a "dnf erase nspr-devel"
> and then update firefox.
>
> [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q firefox
> firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64
> [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q nspr-devel
> package nspr-devel is not installed

Thanks. Tried this already but was not confident that it was safe to do:

$ sudo dnf erase nspr-devel
Dependencies resolved.
===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
  Package                                                       Arch                                     Version                                              Repository                                       Size
===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
Removing:
  nspr-devel                                                    x86_64                                   4.16.0-1.fc26                                        @updates                                        446 k
Removing depended packages:
  evolution-data-server-devel                                   i686                                     3.24.5-1.fc26                                        @@commandline                                   4.8 M
  evolution-data-server-devel                                   x86_64                                   3.24.5-1.fc26                                        @@commandline                                   4.8 M
  libgdata-devel                                                x86_64                                   0.17.8-1.fc26                                        @@commandline                                   8.1 M
  liboauth-devel                                                x86_64                                   1.0.3-6.fc26                                         @@commandline                                    42 k
  nss-devel                                                     x86_64                                   3.32.0-1.1.fc26                                      @updates                                        813 k
  nss-softokn-devel                                             x86_64                                   3.32.0-1.2.fc26                                      @updates                                         11 k
  nss-util-devel                                                x86_64                                   3.32.0-1.0.fc26                                      @updates                                        259 k
  xulrunner-devel                                               x86_64                                   44.0-9.fc26                                          @@commandline                                    54 M
Removing unused dependencies:
  webkitgtk4-devel                                              x86_64                                   2.16.6-1.fc26                                        @@commandline                                   2.7 M
  webkitgtk4-jsc-devel                                          x86_64                                   2.16.6-1.fc26                                        @@commandline                                   327 k

Transaction Summary
===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
Remove  3 Packages

Freed space: 77 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Operation aborted.

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/28/2017 08:34 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> On 28/08/17 10:11, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 08/28/2017 08:03 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > > A recent update asked to remove firefox (55.0.1-1.fc26), and when I followed with
> > > an install
> > > I ended with the old version 54.0-2.fc26 installed.
> > >
> > > Attempting to upgrade to the latest goes nowhere (see below).
> > > I found a redhat bugzilla regarding an unwise decision to force an unnecessary
> > > dependency
> > >      https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484345
> > > mentioning there is a new package (firefox-55.0.2-3), but it is not showing up.
> > >
> > > Anyone knows what is going on with this?
> > > Firefox is the most 'net facing application here and I need to have the latest
> > > version installed.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > ==
> > > $ sudo dnf update firefox
> > > Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:37 ago on Mon Aug 28 09:49:01 2017.
> > > Dependencies resolved.
> > >
> > > Problem: problem with installed package nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
> > >    - package firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64 conflicts with pkgconfig(nspr) >= 4.16
> > > provided by nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
> > >    - cannot install the best update candidate for package firefox-54.0-2.fc26.x86_64
> > > ==============================================================================================================
> > >
> > > Package                   Arch                  Version
> > > Repository              Size
> > > ==============================================================================================================
> > >
> > > Skipping packages with conflicts:
> > > (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade):
> > >   firefox                   x86_64                55.0.2-2.fc26
> > > updates                 82 M
> > >   nspr-devel                x86_64                4.16.0-1.fc26
> > > updates                119 k
> > > Transaction Summary
> > >
> > > Skip  2 Packages
> > >
> > > Nothing to do.
> > > Complete!
> >
> > If you don't need it, or can do without it for a while, do a "dnf erase nspr-devel"
> > and then update firefox.
> >
> > [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q firefox
> > firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64
> > [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q nspr-devel
> > package nspr-devel is not installed
>
> Thanks. Tried this already but was not confident that it was safe to do:
>
> $ sudo dnf erase nspr-devel
> Dependencies resolved.
> ===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
>
> Package                                                      
> Arch                                    
> Version                                             
> Repository                                       Size
> ===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
>
> Removing:
>  nspr-devel                                                   
> x86_64                                  
> 4.16.0-1.fc26                                       
> @updates                                        446 k
> Removing depended packages:
>  evolution-data-server-devel                                  
> i686                                    
> 3.24.5-1.fc26                                       
> @@commandline                                   4.8 M
>  evolution-data-server-devel                                  
> x86_64                                  
> 3.24.5-1.fc26                                       
> @@commandline                                   4.8 M
>  libgdata-devel                                               
> x86_64                                  
> 0.17.8-1.fc26                                       
> @@commandline                                   8.1 M
>  liboauth-devel                                               
> x86_64                                  
> 1.0.3-6.fc26                                        
> @@commandline                                    42 k
>  nss-devel                                                    
> x86_64                                  
> 3.32.0-1.1.fc26                                     
> @updates                                        813 k
>  nss-softokn-devel                                            
> x86_64                                  
> 3.32.0-1.2.fc26                                     
> @updates                                         11 k
>  nss-util-devel                                               
> x86_64                                  
> 3.32.0-1.0.fc26                                     
> @updates                                        259 k
>  xulrunner-devel                                              
> x86_64                                  
> 44.0-9.fc26                                         
> @@commandline                                    54 M
> Removing unused dependencies:
>  webkitgtk4-devel                                             
> x86_64                                  
> 2.16.6-1.fc26                                       
> @@commandline                                   2.7 M
>  webkitgtk4-jsc-devel                                         
> x86_64                                  
> 2.16.6-1.fc26                                       
> @@commandline                                   327 k
> Transaction Summary
>
> Remove  3 Packages
>
> Freed space: 77 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: n
> Operation aborted.

The *-devel packages are "development" packages that are use if you're building or
recompiling source.

Most people never need these.  Removing them will not cause anything to break.  Just
won't be able to build some packages on your own.

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

On 28/08/17 10:46, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 08:34 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > On 28/08/17 10:11, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 08/28/2017 08:03 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > > > A recent update asked to remove firefox (55.0.1-1.fc26), and when I followed with
> > > > an install
> > > > I ended with the old version 54.0-2.fc26 installed.
> > > >
> > > > Attempting to upgrade to the latest goes nowhere (see below).
> > > > I found a redhat bugzilla regarding an unwise decision to force an unnecessary
> > > > dependency
> > > >       https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1484345
> > > > mentioning there is a new package (firefox-55.0.2-3), but it is not showing up.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone knows what is going on with this?
> > > > Firefox is the most 'net facing application here and I need to have the latest
> > > > version installed.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > ==
> > > > $ sudo dnf update firefox
> > > > Last metadata expiration check: 0:04:37 ago on Mon Aug 28 09:49:01 2017.
> > > > Dependencies resolved.
> > > >
> > > > Problem: problem with installed package nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
> > > >     - package firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64 conflicts with pkgconfig(nspr) >= 4.16
> > > > provided by nspr-devel-4.16.0-1.fc26.x86_64
> > > >     - cannot install the best update candidate for package firefox-54.0-2.fc26.x86_64
> > > > ==============================================================================================================
> > > >
> > > > Package                   Arch                  Version
> > > > Repository              Size
> > > > ==============================================================================================================
> > > >
> > > > Skipping packages with conflicts:
> > > > (add '--best --allowerasing' to command line to force their upgrade):
> > > >    firefox                   x86_64                55.0.2-2.fc26
> > > > updates                 82 M
> > > >    nspr-devel                x86_64                4.16.0-1.fc26
> > > > updates                119 k
> > > > Transaction Summary
> > > >
> > > > Skip  2 Packages
> > > >
> > > > Nothing to do.
> > > > Complete!
> > >
> > > If you don't need it, or can do without it for a while, do a "dnf erase nspr-devel"
> > > and then update firefox.
> > >
> > > [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q firefox
> > > firefox-55.0.2-2.fc26.x86_64
> > > [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q nspr-devel
> > > package nspr-devel is not installed
> >
> > Thanks. Tried this already but was not confident that it was safe to do:
> >
> > $ sudo dnf erase nspr-devel
> > Dependencies resolved.
> > ===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
> >
> > Package
> > Arch
> > Version
> > Repository                                       Size
> > ===================================================================================================================================================================================================================
> >
> > Removing:
> >   nspr-devel
> > x86_64
> > 4.16.0-1.fc26
> > @updates                                        446 k
> > Removing depended packages:
> >   evolution-data-server-devel
> > i686
> > 3.24.5-1.fc26
> > @@commandline                                   4.8 M
> >   evolution-data-server-devel
> > x86_64
> > 3.24.5-1.fc26
> > @@commandline                                   4.8 M
> >   libgdata-devel
> > x86_64
> > 0.17.8-1.fc26
> > @@commandline                                   8.1 M
> >   liboauth-devel
> > x86_64
> > 1.0.3-6.fc26
> > @@commandline                                    42 k
> >   nss-devel
> > x86_64
> > 3.32.0-1.1.fc26
> > @updates                                        813 k
> >   nss-softokn-devel
> > x86_64
> > 3.32.0-1.2.fc26
> > @updates                                         11 k
> >   nss-util-devel
> > x86_64
> > 3.32.0-1.0.fc26
> > @updates                                        259 k
> >   xulrunner-devel
> > x86_64
> > 44.0-9.fc26
> > @@commandline                                    54 M
> > Removing unused dependencies:
> >   webkitgtk4-devel
> > x86_64
> > 2.16.6-1.fc26
> > @@commandline                                   2.7 M
> >   webkitgtk4-jsc-devel
> > x86_64
> > 2.16.6-1.fc26
> > @@commandline                                   327 k
> > Transaction Summary
> >
> > Remove  3 Packages
> >
> > Freed space: 77 M
> > Is this ok [y/N]: n
> > Operation aborted.
>
> The *-devel packages are "development" packages that are use if you're building or
> recompiling source.
>
> Most people never need these.  Removing them will not cause anything to break.  Just
> won't be able to build some packages on your own.

True, but I do build packages at times. Nevertheless, I can always reinstall the dependencies when needed,
so I'll bite now and see how it goes.

Still, it is probably a good idea to fix the root cause...

cheers

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/28/2017 08:56 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> True, but I do build packages at times. Nevertheless, I can always reinstall the
> dependencies when needed,
> so I'll bite now and see how it goes.
>
> Still, it is probably a good idea to fix the root cause...

Oh, it will be fixed....probably sooner than later.

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/28/2017 08:59 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 08:56 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > True, but I do build packages at times. Nevertheless, I can always reinstall the
> > dependencies when needed,
> > so I'll bite now and see how it goes.
> >
> > Still, it is probably a good idea to fix the root cause...
>
> Oh, it will be fixed....probably sooner than later.

Oh, shoot....

I just realized (can't keep numbering straight) that the problem you were seeing
isn't the same problem that existed earlier last week.

You could have enabled the updates-testing repo an installed firefox-55.0.2-3 ....

Sorry about that.

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

On 28/08/17 11:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 08:59 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 08/28/2017 08:56 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > > True, but I do build packages at times. Nevertheless, I can always reinstall the
> > > dependencies when needed,
> > > so I'll bite now and see how it goes.
> > >
> > > Still, it is probably a good idea to fix the root cause...
> >
> > Oh, it will be fixed....probably sooner than later.
>
> Oh, shoot....
>
> I just realized (can't keep numbering straight) that the problem you were seeing
> isn't the same problem that existed earlier last week.
>
> You could have enabled the updates-testing repo an installed firefox-55.0.2-3 ....
>
> Sorry about that.

Thanks again,

I actually think that enabling the updates-testing repo is introducing new risks
that I prefer to stay away from. Many years ago I liked to live on the cutting edge,
with all that it brings, but these days I can do without the extra "excitement".

I am OK to wait for the stable ff package.

cheers

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/28/2017 11:06 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> On 28/08/17 11:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 08/28/2017 08:59 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 08/28/2017 08:56 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > > > True, but I do build packages at times. Nevertheless, I can always reinstall the
> > > > dependencies when needed,
> > > > so I'll bite now and see how it goes.
> > > >
> > > > Still, it is probably a good idea to fix the root cause...
> > >
> > > Oh, it will be fixed....probably sooner than later.
> >
> > Oh, shoot....
> >
> > I just realized (can't keep numbering straight) that the problem you were seeing
> > isn't the same problem that existed earlier last week.
> >
> > You could have enabled the updates-testing repo an installed firefox-55.0.2-3 ....
> >
> > Sorry about that.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> I actually think that enabling the updates-testing repo is introducing new risks
> that I prefer to stay away from. Many years ago I liked to live on the cutting edge,
> with all that it brings, but these days I can do without the extra "excitement".
>
> I am OK to wait for the stable ff package.
>
> cheers

OK....  But the only differences between the new releases was to correct the issues
with nspr.   So, the risk to update on single package is pretty much 0.

* Thu Aug 24 2017 Martin Stransky  - 55.0.2-3
- Enable to build with nspr-4.16.

* Wed Aug 23 2017 Martin Stransky  - 55.0.2-2
- Rebuilt to remove wrong dependency to nspr-4.16.

* Fri Aug 18 2017 Martin Stransky  - 55.0.2-1
- Updated to 55.0.2

* Mon Aug 14 2017 Jan Horak  - 55.0.1-1
- Update to 55.0.1

[Eyal Lebedinsky]

On 28/08/17 13:13, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 08/28/2017 11:06 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > On 28/08/17 11:14, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 08/28/2017 08:59 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > > On 08/28/2017 08:56 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> > > > > True, but I do build packages at times. Nevertheless, I can always reinstall the
> > > > > dependencies when needed,
> > > > > so I'll bite now and see how it goes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Still, it is probably a good idea to fix the root cause...
> > > >
> > > > Oh, it will be fixed....probably sooner than later.
> > >
> > > Oh, shoot....
> > >
> > > I just realized (can't keep numbering straight) that the problem you were seeing
> > > isn't the same problem that existed earlier last week.
> > >
> > > You could have enabled the updates-testing repo an installed firefox-55.0.2-3 ....
> > >
> > > Sorry about that.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > I actually think that enabling the updates-testing repo is introducing new risks
> > that I prefer to stay away from. Many years ago I liked to live on the cutting edge,
> > with all that it brings, but these days I can do without the extra "excitement".
> >
> > I am OK to wait for the stable ff package.
> >
> > cheers
>
> OK....  But the only differences between the new releases was to correct the issues
> with nspr.   So, the risk to update on single package is pretty much 0.

At the risk of prolonging this thread beyond the audience's patience...

So what is suggested is to not just enable updates-testing, but also enable it only
for ff. And I now need to remember to remove it when the issue is sorted out.
Is my understanding correct?

cheers, and thank you Ed for you prompt responses.
    Eyal
> Thu Aug 24 2017 Martin Stransky  - 55.0.2-3
> Enable to build with nspr-4.16.
> Wed Aug 23 2017 Martin Stransky  - 55.0.2-2
> Rebuilt to remove wrong dependency to nspr-4.16.
> Fri Aug 18 2017 Martin Stransky  - 55.0.2-1
> Updated to 55.0.2
> Mon Aug 14 2017 Jan Horak  - 55.0.1-1
> Update to 55.0.1

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/28/2017 11:52 AM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> At the risk of prolonging this thread beyond the audience's patience...
>
> So what is suggested is to not just enable updates-testing, but also enable it only
> for ff. And I now need to remember to remove it when the issue is sorted out.
> Is my understanding correct?

I mean do this from the command line which will only enable it for the one session
and only update firefox

dnf --enablerepo updates-testing update firefox

[Joe Zeff]

On 08/27/2017 08:52 PM, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote:
> So what is suggested is to not just enable updates-testing, but also 
> enable it only
> for ff. And I now need to remember to remove it when the issue is sorted 
> out.
> Is my understanding correct?

Almost.  You need to add --enablerepo=updates-testing to the command 
line so that it's enabled for that run of dnf only.