FF 15.0.1 crashing!

[Jack Craig]

Hi Folks,

is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and work
FF sessions had crashed
since yesterday.

Is it finally time to move to chrome?

tia, jackc...

[Sergio]

Not really a matter of moving to Chrome. I suggest having both installed.

--- Em ter, 2/10/12, Jack Craig  escreveu:

De: Jack Craig 
Assunto: FF 15.0.1 crashing!
Para: [e-mail]
Data: Terça-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012, 12:10

Hi Folks,

is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and work FF sessions had crashed
since yesterday.

Is it finally time to move to chrome?

tia, jackc...

-----Anexo incorporado-----

[Jack Craig]

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Sergio <[e-mail]
> wrote:
> Not really a matter of moving to Chrome. I suggest having both installed.

well, I've been a long time FF enthusiast, but I've been concerned given the
recent accelerate feature addition, maybe its finally becoming to
fragile;maybe chrome
being in its earlier stage, maybe more stable?

I'm not sure and its what I hope to learn more from this thread, ...

Thx!
> --- Em *ter, 2/10/12, Jack Craig * escreveu:
>
> De: Jack Craig 
> Assunto: FF 15.0.1 crashing!
> Para: [e-mail]
> Data: Terça-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2012, 12:10
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and work
> FF sessions had crashed
> since yesterday.
>
> Is it finally time to move to chrome?
>
> tia, jackc...
>
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[lostson]

On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 08:26 -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Sergio
>  wrote:
>         Not really a matter of moving to Chrome. I suggest having both
>         installed.
>
> well, I've been a long time FF enthusiast, but I've been concerned
> given the
> recent accelerate feature addition, maybe its finally becoming to
> fragile;maybe chrome
> being in its earlier stage, maybe more stable?
>
> I'm not sure and its what I hope to learn more from this thread, ...
>
> Thx!

I have not had Firefox crash on me at all either at home or at work. I
am using 15.0.1 as well.  Perhaps a add on you could be using?

[Jack Craig]

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM, lostson  wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 08:26 -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Sergio
> >  wrote:
> >         Not really a matter of moving to Chrome. I suggest having both
> >         installed.
> >
> > well, I've been a long time FF enthusiast, but I've been concerned
> > given the
> > recent accelerate feature addition, maybe its finally becoming to
> > fragile;maybe chrome
> > being in its earlier stage, maybe more stable?
> >
> > I'm not sure and its what I hope to learn more from this thread, ...
> >
> > Thx!
>
> I have not had Firefox crash on me at all either at home or at work. I
> am using 15.0.1 as well.  Perhaps a add on you could be using?

I've not added any plugins/or anything else recently, only a yum update
and FF was updated, hence my suspicion of FF...

I'll continue to monitor, maybe it was a fluke, ...
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[Hiisi]

Look up in google how to start firefox in safe mode. Something like
'firefox --safe-mode' from terminal  appears to me. But I'm far away
from my computer at the moment.

On 02/10/2012, Jack Craig  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM, lostson  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 08:26 -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Sergio
> > >  wrote:
> > >         Not really a matter of moving to Chrome. I suggest having both
> > >         installed.
> > >
> > > well, I've been a long time FF enthusiast, but I've been concerned
> > > given the
> > > recent accelerate feature addition, maybe its finally becoming to
> > > fragile;maybe chrome
> > > being in its earlier stage, maybe more stable?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure and its what I hope to learn more from this thread, ...
> > >
> > > Thx!
> >
> > I have not had Firefox crash on me at all either at home or at work. I
> > am using 15.0.1 as well.  Perhaps a add on you could be using?
>
> I've not added any plugins/or anything else recently, only a yum update
> and FF was updated, hence my suspicion of FF...
>
> I'll continue to monitor, maybe it was a fluke, ...
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[Jack Craig]

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Hiisi  wrote:
> Look up in google how to start firefox in safe mode. Something like
> 'firefox --safe-mode' from terminal  appears to me. But I'm far away
> from my computer at the moment.
>
> Thx Ruben.

second day in a row, i arrive and FF is frozen! 3 days ago, i did an update
and what ever FF sent made it sick.
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[Alchemist]

2012/10/3 Jack Craig :
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:10 AM, Hiisi  wrote:
> > Look up in google how to start firefox in safe mode. Something like
> > 'firefox --safe-mode' from terminal  appears to me. But I'm far away
> > from my computer at the moment.
>
> Thx Ruben.
>
> second day in a row, i arrive and FF is frozen! 3 days ago, i did an update
> and what ever FF sent made it sick.
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Hi Jack. If you aleady tried mentioned safe-mode variant, also try to
look at about:crashes or local (cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/"Crash Reports")
to find out what really happens. If no luck then
1) close FF, check with ps -ef | grep firefox in terminal(it may be
still running), then run yum reinstall firefox xulrunner
2) run firefox -ProfileManager, create fresh profile ex. test, then
fire it up with firefox -P test --no-remote
3) visit your everyday sites or do what you usually did, when this
issue started to happen and open about:memory to monitor your FF
status. Maybe there is some plugin incompatibility with some sites(you
will see unusual memory usage).

[Jack Craig]

> Hi Jack. If you aleady tried mentioned safe-mode variant, also try to
> look at about:crashes or local (cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/"Crash Reports")
> to find out what really happens. If no luck then
> close FF, check with ps -ef | grep firefox in terminal(it may be
>
> still running), then run yum reinstall firefox xulrunner
> 2) run firefox -ProfileManager, create fresh profile ex. test, then
> fire it up with firefox -P test --no-remote
> 3) visit your everyday sites or do what you usually did, when this
> issue started to happen and open about:memory to monitor your FF
> status. Maybe there is some plugin incompatibility with some sites(you
> will see unusual memory usage).

[jcraig@87145jcraig1 Crash Reports]$ ll

-rw-rw-r--. 1 jcraig jcraig   75 Sep  5 08:33 crashreporter.ini
-rw-------. 1 jcraig jcraig   10 Jul 11 13:31 InstallTime20110930134708
-rw-------. 1 jcraig jcraig   10 Jul 11 14:32 InstallTime20120605140240
-rw-------  1 jcraig jcraig   10 Jul 16 08:35 InstallTime20120616215734
-rw-------  1 jcraig jcraig   10 Jul 30 08:17 InstallTime20120717143922
-rw-------  1 jcraig jcraig   10 Sep 14 14:42 InstallTime20120828083604
-rw-------  1 jcraig jcraig   10 Oct  2 08:05 InstallTime20120911180710
-rw-------. 1 jcraig jcraig   10 Sep  5 08:33 LastCrash
drwx------. 2 jcraig jcraig 4096 Sep  5 08:33 pending
-rw-rw-r--. 1 jcraig jcraig  420 Sep  5 08:33 submit.log
drwx------  2 jcraig jcraig 4096 Sep  5 08:33 submitted
[jcraig@87145jcraig1 Crash Reports]$

cat LastCrash

-> 1346859219

This is useful guidance, the timestamp of 8:33 is when i arrived to fid it
frozen this am.

vlgothic-fonts                           Mon 01 Oct 2012 10:32:20 AM PDT
postgresql91-contrib                     Mon 01 Oct 2012 10:32:22 AM PDT
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio                  Mon 01 Oct 2012 10:32:23 AM PDT
*firefox                                  Mon 01 Oct 2012 10:32:25 AM PDT*
bind-utils                               Mon 01 Oct 2012 10:32:26 AM PDT
ghostscript-cups                         Mon 01 Oct 2012 10:32:26 AM PDT

this is the ill-fated ff update from rpm land...

I am continuing with your guidance, but this much for the record, Thx, ...

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[Sergio]

> Hi Jack. If you aleady tried mentioned safe-mode variant,
> also try to
> look at about:crashes or local (cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/"Crash
> Reports")
> to find out what really happens. If no luck then
> close FF, check with ps -ef | grep firefox in terminal(it
>
> may be
> still running), then run yum reinstall firefox xulrunner
> 2) run firefox -ProfileManager, create fresh profile ex.
> test, then
> fire it up with firefox -P test --no-remote
> 3) visit your everyday sites or do what you usually did,
> when this
> issue started to happen and open about:memory to monitor
> your FF
> status. Maybe there is some plugin incompatibility with some
> sites(you
> will see unusual memory usage).
> --

I didn't follow all the thread but Firefox has no safe-mode option at least in its man page. But one can open it normally and go to Help>Restart with add-ons disabled...

Of course creating a fresh profile is the way to go to check if the profile isn't compromised (before that I would simply clear all cookies, cache and website data).

[Andre Robatino]

Jack Craig <jack.craig.aptos <at> gmail.com> writes:
> Thx Ruben. second day in a row, i arrive and FF is frozen! 3 days ago, i did

an updateand what ever FF sent made it sick.

Several times in the last few days, I've found Firefox
(firefox-15.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64) sucking up 100% CPU. It wasn't completely frozen,
just extremely sluggish. I was able to close it in the usual way and restart to
temporarily fix it. The last time something like this happened to me was the
leap second bug.

[Jack Craig]

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Andre Robatino
wrote:
> Jack Craig <jack.craig.aptos <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > Thx Ruben. second day in a row, i arrive and FF is frozen! 3 days ago, i
>
> did
> an update and what ever FF sent made it sick.
>
> Several times in the last few days, I've found Firefox
> (firefox-15.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64) sucking up 100% CPU. It wasn't completely
> frozen,
> just extremely sluggish. I was able to close it in the usual way and
> restart to
> temporarily fix it. The last time something like this happened to me was
> the
> leap second bug.

So Andre,

You may have a good point; I am not a patient person, a couple clicks and I
am down the road.

I'll look closer for this next time. Strange, Monday update, hang, tues am,
wed am, thurs am ok!  WTF??!

Still looking, Thx again Andre, jackc...
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[JD]

On 10/03/2012 05:58 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Jack Craig <jack.craig.aptos <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > Thx Ruben. second day in a row, i arrive and FF is frozen! 3 days ago, i did
>
> an updateand what ever FF sent made it sick.
>
> Several times in the last few days, I've found Firefox
> (firefox-15.0.1-1.fc17.x86_64) sucking up 100% CPU. It wasn't completely frozen,
> just extremely sluggish. I was able to close it in the usual way and restart to
> temporarily fix it. The last time something like this happened to me was the
> leap second bug.

Don't mean to be a ditto-head
but I have been having this problem with FF
for many years now, with many versions of it.
What I find happening is that if I open video
web sites that require adobe flash, then 3 processes
spawned by the browser and flash player remain
in core and sucking up to 90% of cpu, even though
the video stopped playing many minutes and even
hours ago, These processes are:
firefox
plugin-container
pulseaudio

So, next time your machine is brought to it's
knees by FF, kill FF and then kill the other 2 procs
because they will still be sucking tons of CPU.
I say this from direct experience,

[Sergio]

Sorry again if I missed the whole discussion but it may depend on the site visited. Like http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=284580

[Jack Craig]

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sergio <[e-mail]
> wrote:
> Sorry again if I missed the whole discussion but it may depend on the site
> visited. Like http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=284580

this does not crash mine, thx!

[lostson]

On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 07:59 -0700, Jack Craig wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sergio
>  wrote:
>         Sorry again if I missed the whole discussion but it may depend
>         on the site visited. Like
>         http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=284580
>
> this does not crash mine, thx!

This did freeze mine up where i had to kill it.

[Ruben Schade]

Jack Craig wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and
> work FF sessions had crashed
> since yesterday.
>
> Is it finally time to move to chrome?
>
> tia, jackc...

No problems for me running FF 15.0.1 and SeaMonkey 2.12 (based on FF
15.0) on Fedora 17 x86_64 with dozens of tabs over many days. I use
NoScript though, so perhaps something that's causing instability is
being blocked on my end?

[Christopher Svanefalk]

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jack Craig  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and work FF
> sessions had crashed
> since yesterday.
>
> Is it finally time to move to chrome?
>
> tia, jackc...
>
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I moved to Chrome long ago (using the open source version, it is very
easy to build and maintain), and I never looked back. I am hoping to
start providing a package for it for Fedora 18 and forward.

[Roger]

I've not had a crash but it stops working for up to 3 minutes, at the 
same time it uses 100% of cpu and 90% memory, then stops using all that 
and works well for a short time.
Roger
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jack Craig  wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and work FF
> > sessions had crashed
> > since yesterday.
> >
> > Is it finally time to move to chrome?
> >
> > tia, jackc...
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> I moved to Chrome long ago (using the open source version, it is very
> easy to build and maintain), and I never looked back. I am hoping to
> start providing a package for it for Fedora 18 and forward.

[Temlakos]

On 10/10/2012 06:43 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Jack Craig  wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > is anyone else seeing their FF 15.0.1 crash? today, both my hime and work FF
> > sessions had crashed
> > since yesterday.
> >
> > Is it finally time to move to chrome?
> >
> > tia, jackc...
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> I moved to Chrome long ago (using the open source version, it is very
> easy to build and maintain), and I never looked back. I am hoping to
> start providing a package for it for Fedora 18 and forward.

FF 15 does not crash. Not for me, it doesn't. (Though the current 
iteration of Thunderbird crashes at least once at the beginning of every 
session.) But earlier versions of Firefox did. And sometimes, for some 
weird reason, Firefox takes up system resources in a way that System 
Monitor (ksysguard from KDE) does not catch or report. So I have to take 
Firefox down and bring it back up just to get through the night's e-mail.

I'm looking forward to an official Google Chrome package for Fedora. All 
I knew is that the Chrome pack I got was the worst-behaved application I 
ever tried to work with. But that was when I was still slogging with F14 
long past its EOL

Will you provide Google Chrome for x86_64? I have found that x86_64 is 
the best way I know to keep this Pentium Dual Core machine running at a 
reasonable speed.

Temlakos

Chrome [Was FF 15.0.1 crashing!]

[SternData]

On 10/10/2012 07:01 AM, Temlakos wrote:
 // snip
> I'm looking forward to an official Google Chrome package for Fedora. All
> I knew is that the Chrome pack I got was the worst-behaved application I
> ever tried to work with. But that was when I was still slogging with F14
> long past its EOL
>
> Will you provide Google Chrome for x86_64? I have found that x86_64 is
> the best way I know to keep this Pentium Dual Core machine running at a
> reasonable speed.
>
> Temlakos

I've been running Chrome from the official Google repo for a long time
now. It's stable, updated frequently, and worked on my prior 32 bit
system as well as my new 64 bit one.

Installing the rpm from http://google.com/chrome installs the necessary
.repo files to keep Chrome up to date.

Chrome [Was FF 15.0.1 crashing!]

[Jack Craig]

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Steven Stern <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 07:01 AM, Temlakos wrote:
>  // snip
> > I'm looking forward to an official Google Chrome package for Fedora. All
> > I knew is that the Chrome pack I got was the worst-behaved application I
> > ever tried to work with. But that was when I was still slogging with F14
> > long past its EOL
> >
> > Will you provide Google Chrome for x86_64? I have found that x86_64 is
> > the best way I know to keep this Pentium Dual Core machine running at a
> > reasonable speed.
> >
> > Temlakos
>
> I've been running Chrome from the official Google repo for a long time
> now. It's stable, updated frequently, and worked on my prior 32 bit
> system as well as my new 64 bit one.
>
> Installing the rpm from http://google.com/chrome installs the necessary
> .repo files to keep Chrome up to date.

Thx Steve, I'm bookmarking this repo.

Regardless of others experience, I did an update on a Monday of both my
home & office
fedora 16 workstations. each location had a FF usage interruption the
following morning; both
stations, 2 days running, never before, never since.

to me, an app is crashed when its current display is not responsive to
mouse or kybd control.

that is too much coincidence, must be some problem, but its fine since.

Thx again to those on this list providing input,
have a great  Hump Day(National Mental Health day)! [?]
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[Sergio]

> FF 15 does not crash. Not for me, it doesn't. (Though the
> current iteration of Thunderbird crashes at least once at
> the beginning of every session.) But earlier versions of
> Firefox did. And sometimes, for some weird reason, Firefox
> takes up system resources in a way that System Monitor
> (ksysguard from KDE) does not catch or report. So I have to
> take Firefox down and bring it back up just to get through
> the night's e-mail.
>
> I'm looking forward to an official Google Chrome package for
> Fedora. All I knew is that the Chrome pack I got was the
> worst-behaved application I ever tried to work with. But
> that was when I was still slogging with F14 long past its
> EOL
>
> Will you provide Google Chrome for x86_64? I have found that
> x86_64 is the best way I know to keep this Pentium Dual Core
> machine running at a reasonable speed.
>
> Temlakos

As said, by installing the Chrome rpm you install the repo too (I use the i686 version).

In Firefox if you go to about:memory you'll have options to minimize memory usage.