Hello,
I'm using evolution 3.8.5 on F19, and for the third time now, in as many days, it has suddenly 'lost' all my incoming mail filters. I have no idea why it happens, all I see is a yellow banner saying:
Mail filters automatically updated. The filter rule "Xymon" has been modified to account for the deleted folder "Xymon".
The folder name (here 'Xymon') changes for each of the filters I have. The filters actually still exist, but they now do nothing. They previously all moved mail into various folders, and it is the location of those folders that has been removed from the filters.
My mail is still all present, and the folders exist. I can read new mail in the folders so I do not know why it thinks they are deleted.
I can, of course, add the filters back in, but I have 20 or so filters so it takes a bit of time.
I have been using evolution with no problems since upgrading to F19 a couple of months ago. As said, this has only just started happening.
Has anyone else seen this recently?
Thanks,
John.
On 10/17/2013 03:58 PM, John Horne wrote:
I can, of course, add the filters back in, but I have 20 or so filters so it takes a bit of time.
I don't use evolution myself, but it seems reasonable that all of your filters are kept in one, profile-specific directory. You may want to try backing that directory up so that next time this happens, you can close evolution, restore from backup and try again.
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 16:25 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 10/17/2013 03:58 PM, John Horne wrote:
I can, of course, add the filters back in, but I have 20 or so filters so it takes a bit of time.
I don't use evolution myself, but it seems reasonable that all of your filters are kept in one, profile-specific directory. You may want to try backing that directory up so that next time this happens, you can close evolution, restore from backup and try again.
Well there is the ~/.config/evolution/mail/filters.xml file which seems to hold the mail filters. I have taken a copy of it just in case :-)
Thanks,
John.
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 23:58 +0100, John Horne wrote:
suddenly 'lost' all my incoming mail filters. I have no idea why it happens, all I see is a yellow banner saying:
Mail filters automatically updated. The filter rule "Xymon" has been modified to account for the deleted folder "Xymon".
The folder name (here 'Xymon') changes for each of the filters I have. The filters actually still exist, but they now do nothing.
Not that I have the answer, but to help you (and others) narrow it down: Are these local folders, or remote folders (e.g. on an IMAP server, or over NFS)?
If they're remote, perhaps it doesn't wait long enough to find them, before declaring them deleted.
I gave up on using filters with evolution, long ago. But for a different reason - it was painfully slow at filtering mail if I had anything more than about three filters set up. And yes, each filter was set up to end the filtering as soon as a match happened, so each mail doesn't go through every filter rule.
On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 16:23 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 23:58 +0100, John Horne wrote:
suddenly 'lost' all my incoming mail filters. I have no idea why it happens, all I see is a yellow banner saying:
Mail filters automatically updated. The filter rule "Xymon" has been modified to account for the deleted folder "Xymon".
The folder name (here 'Xymon') changes for each of the filters I have. The filters actually still exist, but they now do nothing.
Not that I have the answer, but to help you (and others) narrow it down: Are these local folders, or remote folders (e.g. on an IMAP server, or over NFS)?
If they're remote, perhaps it doesn't wait long enough to find them, before declaring them deleted.
Sorry, yes I should have said that these are remote (dovecot) IMAP folders. Although the remote server is fine, my ISP connection can be attrocious at times! For that reason I too wondered if it was something to do with talking to the server.
I had a look at the 'updates-testing' repo but there were no releases of evolution waiting. However, I did find in the gnome (evolution) bugzilla reports[1] about folders being lost (etc) when laptop users suspend their device and are using a remote IMAP server. Although not exactly the same, the circumstances - loss of network - are similar. There was no mention of mail filters, but the bug was that the loss of network was not being reported correctly. In my case it could be that evolution thinks the network is there but the folders aren't - hence the filters get changed to remove the folder names. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to have been fixed until the evolution 3.9 branch, and I see that F20/21 will be using branches 3.9 and 3.10. I may take a stab at rebuilding the F20 source RPMS of evolution and evolution-data-server on my F19 system, but it may be too dependent on other things for it to work.
Thanks,
John.
[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693101
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM, John Horne john.horne@plymouth.ac.ukwrote:
I may take a stab at rebuilding the F20 source RPMS of evolution and evolution-data-server on my F19 system, but it may be too dependent on other things for it to work.
It depends on large parts of Gnome, so I wouldn't expect it to be easy.
poc
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:42:38 +0100 John Horne john.horne@plymouth.ac.uk wrote: and I see that F20/21
will be using branches 3.9 and 3.10. I may take a stab at rebuilding the F20 source RPMS of evolution and evolution-data-server on my F19 system, but it may be too dependent on other things for it to work.
why not "yum update evolution --releasever=20" to see what it tries to pull in. If you don't like go No.
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