F26 32-bit Live ISO stalls during boot

I'm trying to install F26 on an older laptop using the Live DVD.  When I boot the DVD, everything seems to work until the "Started User Manager for UID 1000" message.  Then the boot seems to stall for a long time, over 10 minutes.  The DVD is being accessed, but sometimes stops for a couple minutes before restarting.

Any idea how to proceed?

[ergodic]

I have the same problem with the 64 bit version.
The kernel is my prime suspect
Using dnf I upgraded the system to F-27. Only the rescue
option “vmlinuz-0-rescue-d227a01724864faa96106c8194003a31”(kernel 4.8.6-300.fc25.x86_64 x86_64) boots.

vmlinuz-4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64
vmlinuz-4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64
vmlinuz-4.13.11-300.fc27.x86_64
have the same failure mode:
Last log entry “Started User Manager for User ID 42”
Cursor is displayed at the center of the screen
Screen background turns gray and the computer freezes.

----- Original Message -----
> I'm trying to install F26 on an older laptop using the Live DVD.
>  When I boot the DVD, everything seems to work until the "Started
> User Manager for UID 1000" message.  Then the boot seems to stall
> for a long time, over 10 minutes.  The DVD is being accessed, but
> sometimes stops for a couple minutes before restarting.
>
> Any idea how to proceed?
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[ergodic]

Some additional info:
   The upgrade was from F-25 to F-27beta

$ uname -a
     Linux  mlnet  4.8.6-300.fc25.x86_64  #1 SMP Tue Nov 1 12:36:38 UTC 2016  x86_64  x86_64  x86_64  GNU/Linux

Hardware:  64 bits  smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7 vsyscall32
Motherboard:  ASUS P8Z77-V LK
CPU:  Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz
Memory:  16GiB DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
Graphics:  Intel  Xeon E3-1200  VGA compatible controller 
USB controller:  Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller
Network:  PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller RTL8111/8168 
HDD:  Seagate 1TB Seagate ST31000528AS
Optical:  DVD-RAM writer HP BD Writer bd340i

----- Original Message -----
> I have the same problem with the 64 bit version.
> The kernel is my prime suspect
> Using dnf I upgraded the system to F-27. Only the rescue
> option “vmlinuz-0-rescue-d227a01724864faa96106c8194003a31”(kernel
> 4.8.6-300.fc25.x86_64 x86_64) boots.
>
> vmlinuz-4.12.13-300.fc26.x86_64
> vmlinuz-4.13.11-200.fc26.x86_64
> vmlinuz-4.13.11-300.fc27.x86_64
> have the same failure mode:
> Last log entry “Started User Manager for User ID 42”
> Cursor is displayed at the center of the screen
> Screen background turns gray and the computer freezes.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > I'm trying to install F26 on an older laptop using the Live DVD.
> >  When I boot the DVD, everything seems to work until the "Started
> > User Manager for UID 1000" message.  Then the boot seems to stall
> > for a long time, over 10 minutes.  The DVD is being accessed, but
> > sometimes stops for a couple minutes before restarting.
> >
> > Any idea how to proceed?
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
>
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

Thanks for hijacking the thread.  dnf upgrade not related to the Live ISO.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/12/2017 10:17 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> I'm trying to install F26 on an older laptop using the Live DVD.  When I boot the DVD, everything seems to work until the "Started User Manager for UID 1000" message.  Then the boot seems to stall for a long time, over 10 minutes.  The DVD is being accessed, but sometimes stops for a couple minutes before restarting.

Edit the boot entry to remove the rhgb and quiet parameters from the 
kernel line.  That way you will get much more information about the boot 
process.  When you get to the stall point, try using CTRL-ALT-F3 to see 
if you can switch to a console.

Thanks.  I can get a console and log in.  I ran "dnf update" to update to current repo.

Journalctl shows sddm_greeter crashed, with stack trace of 0 (maybe stack overwrite corrupting return address).  The only hits I see for sddm_greeter involve Nvidia drivers.  My laptop has integrated Intel video.

I can run "startx" in the console and (after a while) get a KDE/Plasma desktop.  I'm able to open a "konsole" window and run some commands.

I'm guessing that the sddm_greater problem causes the hang.  Any idea how to fix this?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/13/2017 11:47 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> Journalctl shows sddm_greeter crashed, with stack trace of 0 (maybe stack overwrite corrupting return address).  The only hits I see for sddm_greeter involve Nvidia drivers.  My laptop has integrated Intel video.
>
> I can run "startx" in the console and (after a while) get a KDE/Plasma desktop.  I'm able to open a "konsole" window and run some commands.
>
> I'm guessing that the sddm_greater problem causes the hang.  Any idea how to fix this?

Do you really need to run the 32-bit version?  It looks like the live 
image respins are only done for 64-bit.  I was going to suggest using an 
F27 live image instead, but I can only find netinst images.  The spins 
don't seem to be built.  However, I did find ones for rawhide (future 
F28).  You could try that.

https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/rawhide/...

I'm trying to update an old Toshiba laptop (previously running Fedora 10!).  It has a Pentium M processor.  So, no 64-bit.

I booted the netinst image and installed using that.  But I'm left with this sddm_greeter issue.  And F26 seems to run very slowly.

I could look at using a different distro more tailored for older/slower processors.  I seem to have scrambled the old F10 install, unfortunately.

Hi.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:55:06 +0000 [e-mail] wrote:
> I booted the netinst image and installed using that.  But I'm left
> with this sddm_greeter issue.

Try perhaps to use another display manager. Ex: lightdm
> And F26 seems to run very slowly.

You may try MATE (dnf group: mate-desktop-environment) or xfce
(xfce-desktop-environment) or ... many others.

Thanks.  I'll give that a try.