Could not connect to gmail in fedora 6? and Could not run YUM

[frank wang]

Hi,

I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
fedora 5.

Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
The error message is:

Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
Could not retrieve mirrorlist
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrolist?repo=core-6&arch=i386 error
was
[Error 4] IOError: <ulropen error (110, .....)>
Error: cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core

Could any help to fix this also? I really need to get the kernel-devel
package to compile the vmtoolbox.

Thanks

Frank

[John Poelstra]

frank wang said the following on 04/03/2007 11:28 AM Pacific Time:
> Hi,
>
> I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
> I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
> to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
> fedora 5.
>
> Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
>
> At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
> The error message is:

Sounds like networking isn't working on the fedora 6 machine at all.  Assuming it has a network card, do you have the same network selected (e.g. bridged, nat, etc.) for the properties of that guest?

John

[frank wang]

Hi, John,

Yes. The network seems working fine since I can visit www.google.com
and browsing the web. But I could not visit www.gmail.com.

I do not know what is wrong.

Thanks

Frank

On 4/3/07, John Poelstra  wrote:
> frank wang said the following on 04/03/2007 11:28 AM Pacific Time:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
> > I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
> > to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
> > fedora 5.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
> >
> > At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
> > The error message is:
>
> Sounds like networking isn't working on the fedora 6 machine at all.  Assuming it has a network card, do you have the same network selected (e.g. bridged, nat, etc.) for the properties of that guest?
>
> John
>
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[frank wang]

Both fedora 5 and fedora 6 have the same /etc/resolv.conf. Fedora 5
can connect to gmail, but not fedora 6.

Thanks

Frank

On 4/3/07, frank wang  wrote:
> Hi, John,
>
> Yes. The network seems working fine since I can visit www.google.com
> and browsing the web. But I could not visit www.gmail.com.
>
> I do not know what is wrong.
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
>
> On 4/3/07, John Poelstra  wrote:
> > frank wang said the following on 04/03/2007 11:28 AM Pacific Time:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
> > > I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
> > > to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
> > > fedora 5.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
> > >
> > > At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
> > > The error message is:
> >
> > Sounds like networking isn't working on the fedora 6 machine at all.  Assuming it has a network card, do you have the same network selected (e.g. bridged, nat, etc.) for the properties of that guest?
> >
> > John
> >
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[Cameron Simpson]

On 03Apr2007 13:05, frank wang  wrote:
| Both fedora 5 and fedora 6 have the same /etc/resolv.conf. Fedora 5
| can connect to gmail, but not fedora 6.

Firewall (iptables) rules?

[frank wang]

I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?

Thanks

Frank

On 4/3/07, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> On 03Apr2007 13:05, frank wang  wrote:
> | Both fedora 5 and fedora 6 have the same /etc/resolv.conf. Fedora 5
> | can connect to gmail, but not fedora 6.
> Firewall (iptables) rules?
>
> Cameron Simpson  DoD#743
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[Cameron Simpson]

On 03Apr2007 18:31, frank wang  wrote:
| I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?

iptables -L -n

will list it all. But it can be cryptic. Chase that later.

You can do certain lower level tests easily, since you say
you can get to some things and not others.

You can test getting (directly) to a web site like this:

telnet www.google.com 80

Telnet should recite an IP address for the web site. That tells you that
DNS is working. And then it should connect. That tells you that to can
get to it. Get out of telnet by typing ^] (ctrl-]) and the "q" and
"enter".

An example on the local LAN where I am:

$ telnet web 80
  Trying 10.11.0.9...
  Connected to web.blah.blah.blah.com.au (10.11.0.9).
  Escape character is '^]'.

"web" has been looked up, getting 10.11.0.9. And telnet connected ok.

GMail is https as I recall:

telnet gmail.com 443

Same deal as for http (port 80).

The results of these tests will help pinpoint your problem.

Cheers,

[Gene Lapointe]

iptables -L
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 18:31 -0700, frank wang wrote:
> I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank
>
> On 4/3/07, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> > On 03Apr2007 13:05, frank wang  wrote:
> > | Both fedora 5 and fedora 6 have the same /etc/resolv.conf. Fedora 5
> > | can connect to gmail, but not fedora 6.
> > Firewall (iptables) rules?
> >
> > Cameron Simpson  DoD#743
> >
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[Cameron Simpson]

On 03Apr2007 21:39, Gene Lapointe  wrote:
| iptables -L

This will be pretty slow if his DNS is broken. The -n flag can be used
to skip DNS lookups in this listing.

[Kam Leo]

On 4/3/07, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> On 03Apr2007 21:39, Gene Lapointe  wrote:
> | iptables -L
>
> This will be pretty slow if his DNS is broken. The -n flag can be used
> to skip DNS lookups in this listing.
> --
> Cameron Simpson  DoD#743

Frank, you have made two separate posts regarding FC6 and vmware.
Before you create more posts regarding applications or other elements
not working how about you confirming that you have vmware installed
and correctly configured?

[Steve Searle]

Around 04:27am on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 (UK time), Kam Leo scrawled:
> Frank, you have made two separate posts regarding FC6 and vmware.
> Before you create more posts regarding applications or other elements
> not working how about you confirming that you have vmware installed
> and correctly configured?

I am not aware on any limit on the number of separate posts that a
listee can post here, and even if there were then two does not seem
excessive.

Clearly Frank is struggling and quite new to GNU/Linux, yet he is not
being negative and is posting further information as other listees point
him in the correct direction.  I assume he probably believes he has
vmware installed and configured correctly, but cannot be certain - that
is how I would feel anyway.  Given this I believe we can be more helpful
than you are currently being with this post and your one on the other
thread, where you implied you "really hate" posters like Frank.

Frank, I can't help you particularly with this problem, but you are
entitled to post here and ask for help, and in my experience you will
receive it.  Keep at it, and hopefully your problems will be resolved.

Steve

[Ed Greshko]

Steve Searle wrote:
> I am not aware on any limit on the number of separate posts that a
> listee can post here, and even if there were then two does not seem
> excessive.

There isn't.  And, I don't think Kam was suggesting otherwise.  I believe he
was simply pointing out that the posts were essentially duplicates and that
doing so turns out producing multiple threads and causes confusion.

I think this happens, duplicate questions that is, is because the Red Hat
email servers use a "delay" mechanism to assist in rejecting spam.  I
believe their servers are set to 15 or 30 minutes.  But, whatever the time
is, a poster doesn't see their post in some time and thus resend it...and
probably retyping the whole thing.

Yes, the OP should continue to ask questions.  But, should wait until folks
have had a chance to read/digest/answer.  And if one does not get an answer
in several days (not hours....especially on the weekend or during the
Superbowl, World Cup, etc.) before asking again.

That's what I think Kam was suggesting.

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 04 April 2007, frank wang wrote:
> I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank

Frank, it's your choice, but do you really want to spend lots of time on this?  
The problems you are seeing with FC6 will not, I guarantee, stop you using 
FC6 from a clean install.  If you have any problems at first, and you may 
have, help from this list will get you going quickly.

Anne

[Lizerazu]

I feel that Anne's point should be re-enforced. I fully agree. A fresh
install is probably about 99% unlikely to have these problems and we can
help you through fixing them if it does.

On 4/4/07, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007, frank wang wrote:
> > I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
>
> Frank, it's your choice, but do you really want to spend lots of time on
> this?
> The problems you are seeing with FC6 will not, I guarantee, stop you using
> FC6 from a clean install.  If you have any problems at first, and you may
> have, help from this list will get you going quickly.
>
> Anne
>
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[frank wang]

Hi, All,

Thank you very much for trying to help me to solve this problem.

My VMware setup seems fine. They are the same between fedora 5 and fedora 6.

It is my impatience prompt me to post the question several time since
I am desperately need some help.

As I posted from another email, I want to install fedora 6 on my old
IBM A21p laptop. So I install it on vmware to get familiar on the
installation process.

I will follow the suggestion to install the kernel-devel package from
the DVD insteat of using YUM.

Thanks

Frank

On 4/4/07, Ben Rankin  wrote:
> I feel that Anne's point should be re-enforced. I fully agree. A fresh
> install is probably about 99% unlikely to have these problems and we can
> help you through fixing them if it does.
>
> On 4/4/07, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 April 2007, frank wang wrote:
> > > I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Frank
> >
> > Frank, it's your choice, but do you really want to spend lots of time on
>
> this?
> > The problems you are seeing with FC6 will not, I guarantee, stop you using
> > FC6 from a clean install.  If you have any problems at first, and you may
> > have, help from this list will get you going quickly.
> >
> > Anne
> >
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[Kam Leo]

On 4/4/07, frank wang  wrote:
> Hi, All,
>
> Thank you very much for trying to help me to solve this problem.
>
> My VMware setup seems fine. They are the same between fedora 5 and fedora 6.
>
> It is my impatience prompt me to post the question several time since
> I am desperately need some help.
>
> As I posted from another email, I want to install fedora 6 on my old
> IBM A21p laptop. So I install it on vmware to get familiar on the
> installation process.
>
> I will follow the suggestion to install the kernel-devel package from
> the DVD insteat of using YUM.
>
> Thanks

Frank,

After you have installed kernel-devel go to the VMware forum and
search for the "vmxnet compile fix". The patch will let you use the
vmxnet driver instead of pcnet. (Note: You can also boot from your
CD/DVD and perform an upgrade of the existing FC6 client. Selecting
the kernel development and programming language groups for
installation will ensure that you pick up the major components.)

I used pcnet on my FC6 32-bit client for over a month before patching
vmxnet.c and did not encounter any problem getting gmail or yum to
work. If using vmxnet fixes the problem you are encountering with
gmail please let us know.
> Frank

[Yan Li]

Yeah, I agree with this.  Frank, as long as you are familiar with the
install process now, you can just go on to install FC6 on your
ThinkPad.  IBM's ThinkPad supports FC very well (at least the NIC
works very well...)

On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 11:56:52AM -0400, Ben Rankin wrote:
> I feel that Anne's point should be re-enforced. I fully agree. A fresh
> install is probably about 99% unlikely to have these problems and we can
> help you through fixing them if it does.
>
> On 4/4/07, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 April 2007, frank wang wrote:
> > > I do not know how to check iptables rules. Could you tell me in detail?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Frank
> >
> > Frank, it's your choice, but do you really want to spend lots of time on
> > this?
> > The problems you are seeing with FC6 will not, I guarantee, stop you using
> > FC6 from a clean install.  If you have any problems at first, and you may
> > have, help from this list will get you going quickly.
> >
> > Anne
> >
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[Tony Nelson]

At 1:05 PM -0700 4/3/07, frank wang wrote:
> On 4/3/07, frank wang  wrote:
> > On 4/3/07, John Poelstra  wrote:
> > > frank wang said the following on 04/03/2007 11:28 AM Pacific Time:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
> > > > I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
> > > > to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
> > > > fedora 5.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
> > > >
> > > > At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
> > > > The error message is:
> > >
> > > Sounds like networking isn't working on the fedora 6 machine at all.
> > > Assuming it has a network card, do you have the same network selected
> > > (e.g. bridged, nat, etc.) for the properties of that guest?
> > Hi, John,
> >
> > Yes. The network seems working fine since I can visit www.google.com
> > and browsing the web. But I could not visit www.gmail.com.
> >
> > I do not know what is wrong.
> Both fedora 5 and fedora 6 have the same /etc/resolv.conf. Fedora 5
> can connect to gmail, but not fedora 6.

Sounds as if it might be the TCP Window Size issue, where some routers
don't properly handle it and thus some sites are not usable even if they
can be pinged.  Searching the list suggests this command:

sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling=0

[Raghavendra Moktali]

frank wang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
> I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
> to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
> fedora 5.
>
> Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
>
> At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
> The error message is:
>
> Setting up Install Process
> Setting up repositories
> Could not retrieve mirrorlist
> http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrolist?repo=core-6&arch=i386 error
> was
> [Error 4] IOError: <ulropen error (110, .....)>
> Error: cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core
>
> Could any help to fix this also? I really need to get the kernel-devel
> package to compile the vmtoolbox.
>
> Thanks
>
> Frank

I also struggled thtough this. thought the system was obtaining the ip
by dhcp, the dns was wrong.
verify /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to the correct dns servers.
you could point it to OpenDNS.
hth
rm

[Kam Leo]

On 4/3/07, frank wang  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running fedora 5 and fedora 6 on vmware at the same host machine.
> I could get on the internet from fedora 6. However, if I tried to get
> to www.gmail.com, firefox just timed out. I do not have any problem on
> fedora 5.
>
> Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
>
> At the same time, I still could not use yum to update the fedora 6.
> The error message is:
>
> Setting up Install Process
> Setting up repositories
> Could not retrieve mirrorlist
> http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrolist?repo=core-6&arch=i386 error
> was
> [Error 4] IOError: <ulropen error (110, .....)>
> Error: cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: core
>
> Could any help to fix this also? I really need to get the kernel-devel
> package to compile the vmtoolbox.

You do not need internet access to get the base version of
kernel-devel. Have vmware mount either the .iso file or allocate a
physical CD/DVD drive for the FC6 client. In FC6 open a terminal.
Mount the CD/DVD. Use rpm to install kernel-devel. Before you unmount
the CD/DVD make sure that you have installed the C/C++ development
packages.
> Thanks
>
> Frank