In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
Bob
On 11/29/20 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
That says it can't connect to the pulseaudio daemon. Is it running? What does "ps auxw | grep pulse" show?
On 2020-11-29 18:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
That says it can't connect to the pulseaudio daemon. Is it running? What does "ps auxw | grep pulse" show? _____
. [bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps auxw | grep pulse bobg 1193 0.0 0.4 672264 32368 ? Sl 06:31 0:40 /usr/lib64/xfce4/panel/wrapper-2.0 /usr/lib64/xfce4/panel/plugins/libpulseaudio-plugin.so 8 18874383 pulseaudio PulseAudio Plugin Adjust the audio volume of the PulseAudio sound system bobg 1325 0.3 0.1 1500256 14740 ? S<sl 06:31 2:18 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no --log-target=journal bobg 8990 0.0 0.0 221564 848 pts/2 S+ 19:13 0:00 grep --color=auto pulse
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin bobgoodwin@fastmail.us wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
I have a couple years old Dell desktop that has audio out via HDMI, rear panel speaker jack and front panel headset jack. HDMI output is useless due to low quality of the speakers in my monitor. If I plug in a headset a message comes up on the screen telling me that audio is being sent to the headset. This message appears to come from the system firmware (independent of the OS). It took a few updates (Fedora 31) before Gnome allowed me to send audio to the rear panel output. There were complaints on forums for other distros. You might want to mention your system details in case you need to look for a driver that supports your firmware.
I think Dell is using laptop technology in desktops (the Dell keyboard even has a Fn key next to the left Ctrl key, but lacks the hints on the top row F1, etc. to tell me what the Fn key does -- maybe it is just there to help my fingers when switching to a Dell laptop -- not helpful when switching to a Thinkpad).
On 2020-11-30 07:45, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin@fastmail.us mailto:bobgoodwin@fastmail.us> wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no input when viewing the pa volume display. [bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ... Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?I have a couple years old Dell desktop that has audio out via HDMI, rear panel speaker jack and front panel headset jack. HDMI output is useless due to low quality of the speakers in my monitor. If I plug in a headset a message comes up on the screen telling me that audio is being sent to the headset. This message appears to come from the system firmware (independent of the OS). It took a few updates (Fedora 31) before Gnome allowed me to send audio to the rear panel output. There were complaints on forums for other distros. You might want to mention your system details in case you need to look for a driver that supports your firmware.
I think Dell is using laptop technology in desktops (the Dell keyboard even has a Fn key next to the left Ctrl key, but lacks the hints on the top row F1, etc. to tell me what the Fn key does -- maybe it is just there to help my fingers when switching to a Dell laptop -- not helpful when switching to a Thinkpad).
-- George N. White III
° Well my no name keyboard has a function key in that location too, but my computers are sort of home made, the two Fedora Workstations have MAI main boards and use XFCE which may be where my audio is being routed wrongly? My monitors use HDMI cables but I don't think I've had one with speakers. The audio in question happens to be connected to some good quality speakers that came with a separate amplifier unit my daughter bought for me. I put the computers in rack and panel style cases for my convenience in dealing with the cables and such, works well for me. I remap the keyboard for my convenience also, F15 types "°" and others do other things /want./
I don't have a headset to try but pa volume control tells me there is none plugged in, it only sees the HDMI "plugs."
Anyway Fedora 33 has been really problematic for me, I am reluctant to upgrade this Feodor 32 system since I need one working computer all the time. I rely on my Notecase Pro program for my notes, if my memory fails me i look there and then Google. That has been a struggle to get working in F33, but the creator provides excellent help promptly The first thing I look at when I boot in the morning is my Tkremind calendar and that did not work until I got the set up process straightened out, again the help there is very good. perhaps I should inquire on the xfce list about the sound problem? No one has suggested that ...
Bob
On 2020-11-30 07:45, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2020 at 15:33, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin@fastmail.us mailto:bobgoodwin@fastmail.us> wrote:rg
Those are MSI motherboards ...
Bob,
On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try switching off all "Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.
Then make sure in the hopefully remaining "Profile", that one of the "Analog *" output options stays enabled.
Plus: see the "Output devices" tab in the pavucontrol GUI, and try to make sure a usable one (here: "Speakers") is enabled.
One caveat: making changes in the pavucontrol GUI seems being tricky - I always write down the current settings before trying to change anything in there ...
The rest just to give you overview of what's going on here:
F32 here, i3 desktop.
I have three "Profiles" in the mentioned "Configuration" tab, two for "HDMI, and a remaining one for "Analog" outputs: One of the HDMI "Profile"s for an external TV set, and a second one that has "Analog" options. The moment I switch on the Analog profile, HDMI sound output automatically seems to get switched off.
Careful! and Good luck!
Wolfgang
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 02:32:43PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
In a new install of Fedora-33 I have no audio. It appears that PA has no input when viewing the pa volume display.
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ aplay /home/bobg/apps/audio/login.wav ALSA lib pulse.c:242:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused
aplay: main:830: audio open error: Connection refused
For whatever reason the pa volume shows audio set for HDMI and my audio is coming from the motherboard speaker j=output. The same connection always worked with Fedora-32 and earlier ...
Am I the only one seeing this and what can I do to fix it?
Bob
-- "Altars are burnin' with flames far and wide The foe has crossed over from the other side They tip their caps from the top of the hill You can feel them come, more brave blood to spill"
Bob Dylan: "'Cross The Green Mountain"
On 2020-11-30 12:27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Bob,
On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try switching off all "Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.
Then make sure in the hopefully remaining "Profile", that one of the "Analog *" output options stays enabled.
. I can't see how to turn off profiles? I'm looking at the XFCE volume control and can see them listed under Configuration but nothing j\happens when I click on the boxes at the left ...
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-11-30 12:27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Bob,
On the pavucontrol GUI "Configuration" tab, try switching off all "Profile"s that have HDMI devices to select from.
Then make sure in the hopefully remaining "Profile", that one of the "Analog *" output options stays enabled.
. I can't see how to turn off profiles? I'm looking at the XFCE volume control and can see them listed under Configuration but nothing j\happens when I click on the boxes at the left ...
I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start "pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options similar to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-perma...
Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this picture ...
HTH
Regards, Wolfgang
-- "Altars are burnin' with flames far and wide The foe has crossed over from the other side They tip their caps from the top of the hill You can feel them come, more brave blood to spill"
Bob Dylan: "'Cross The Green Mountain"
On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start "pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options similar to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-perma...
Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this picture ...
. pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:
Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S
I guess XFCE volume doesn't react to that sitiuation.
On 2020-11-30 at 16:02:32 Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start "pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options similar to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-perma...
Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this picture ...
. pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:
Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S
I guess XFCE volume doesn't react to that sitiuation.
Don't you have the pulse-audio plugin on your panel?
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 04:02:32PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-11-30 15:13, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
I don't know that "XFCE volume control" - simply try to start "pavucontrol &" (no quotes) from a terminal, then try to see options similar to the picture on this page with the "Configuration" tab activated:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/166953/how-to-make-pavucontrol-changes-perma...
Then try the steps you quoted on top of this email: To start off click the arrow down menus right of the text that says "Profile" on this picture ...
. pavucontrol will not run, it tells me:
Connection to pulseaudio failed. Automatic retry in 5 S
I'd try to stop pavucontrol:
% ps axo pid,comm | grep pavuco <PID> pavucontrol
or % ps ax | grep pavuco
then % kill -s TERM <PID>
Then watch journalctl when trying to start pavucontrol again: s.th. like sudo journalctl -f -n 1000
the later hopefully gives you some error messages ....
Or you're already a bit sick of it and install F32 ...
Wolfgang
On 2020-11-30 18:19, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
Or you're already a bit sick of it and install F32 ...
Wolfgang
. No, I would probably wait for Fedora 34 and hope it works.
It is also possible the audio circuit has failed on the motherboard. I may also create a new Fedora-33 on the another drive in that computer, there is still /dev/sdb I can install on.
I also wasted a lot of time this morning trying to prove to myself that that computer still was able to produce sound somehow, it did not! I found a working Fedora-30 on a third hard drive, unfortunately the audio problem is the same on everything I tried, F30 and with ab E32 live on a flash drive I had.
I wonder if it is a setting in the cmos/bios in the MSI motherboard? That is a scary mess of fancy artwork with a number of icons that seem to do nothing. The last time I tried to make a change to the boot order it turned out bad. I had to remove the battery and reset it to the default conditions. I thought I had working sound after that, but I am beginning to think perhaps not?
The best solution may turn out to be a different motherboard. I will consider that ...
Thanks to all for the help, Bob
On 12/1/20 1:14 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I also wasted a lot of time this morning trying to prove to myself that that computer still was able to produce sound somehow, it did not! I found a working Fedora-30 on a third hard drive, unfortunately the audio problem is the same on everything I tried, F30 and with ab E32 live on a flash drive I had.
That definitely suggests a hardware problem.
The best solution may turn out to be a different motherboard. I will consider that ...
You can get really cheap USB sound devices now.
On 2020-12-01 16:26, Samuel Sieb wrote:
You can get really cheap USB sound devices now. __
Presumably they have a USB plug at one side and a mini phone jack on the other end, can you suggest one likely to work without Windows?
On 12/1/20 5:14 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
It is also possible the audio circuit has failed on the motherboard. I may also create a new Fedora-33 on the another drive in that computer, there is still /dev/sdb I can install on.
Bob: Haven't followed the whole thread but...did you try booting off a CD/USB? a Fedora 33 Live CD? Ubuntu? And see if it works there...?
On 12/1/20 2:05 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-12-01 16:26, Samuel Sieb wrote:
You can get really cheap USB sound devices now. __
Presumably they have a USB plug at one side and a mini phone jack on the other end, can you suggest one likely to work without Windows?
I haven't found one that doesn't work with Fedora. There's a standard USB protocol for them.
On 2020-12-01 17:13, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
Bob: Haven't followed the whole thread but...did you try booting off a CD/USB? a Fedora 33 Live CD? Ubuntu? And see if it works there...?
No but I tried Fedora-32 live I had on a flash drive, same problem.
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