Very Dumb Question:
I have FC1 on two desktop machines, and normally leapfrog them : one got RH8 while the other kept 7.2 till I felt safe with 8; then the latter got RH9 while the other kept 8; and so on. (I try to stay at least one release beyond the cutting edge.)
But I hit a snag (and have asked about it in several places, to no avail; my apologies if this is a repeat here!): the machine that should now go forward to FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I have no idea what I could have done to cause that. I've tried a variety of things, including using my new Fedora-Legacy yum.conf to do yum remove gnome-terminal and then yum install gnome-terminal. It did both, or seemed to. But I still get a terminal with no prompt. I have three different profiles defined for it, and normally use it with four or five tabs; but none of the profiles gets any prompt.
I would prefer to upgrade rather than scrub and do a clean install of FC2; but since nothing else gets my prompt back, I doubt that would, either.
Hi Beartooth,
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:35:28 -0400, Beartooth beartooth@adelphia.net wrote:
Very Dumb Question:
Not at all, this seems very strange.
[snip]
But I hit a snag (and have asked about it in several places, to no avail; my apologies if this is a repeat here!): the machine that should now go forward to FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I have no idea what I could have done to cause that. I've tried a variety of things, including using my new Fedora-Legacy yum.conf to do yum remove gnome-terminal and then yum install gnome-terminal. It did both, or seemed to. But I still get a terminal with no prompt. I have three different profiles defined for it, and normally use it with four or five tabs; but none of the profiles gets any prompt.
Hmm. I don't know what could be causing this, but I can suggest a few work-arounds. If you have another terminal program, you can try that. Select "Run Application" from the menu and type "xterm" (no quotes) in the box. If you have it installed, this should bring up a terminal (not as nice as gnome's though). You can also press CTRL + ALT + F1 through F6 (hold down the CTRL and ALT keys and press F1) to bring up virtual consoles where you can login and have a terminal. Press CTRL + ALT + F7 to get back to x-windows. Maybe this will at least allow you to do what you need at a terminal.
I would prefer to upgrade rather than scrub and do a clean install of FC2; but since nothing else gets my prompt back, I doubt that would, either.
I would suggest doing a fresh install. After a while, there is no telling what might be left lying around that might cause trouble. Hopefully you are using multiple partitions. Just backup eveything you want to keep to a non / partition (or move stuff to your other computer). I'd suggest backing up stuff in /etc/ for reference and moving back to the new system. If you do move stuff, move it selectively, not the whole directory, and compare what you are going to replace.
Oh, and I noticed you talking about editors in another post. I use nedit, which is a nice, graphical editor that is very easy to use. If you want a console editor, vim is probably the most popular there.
Hope this helps, Jonathan
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:35:28PM -0400, Beartooth wrote:
But I hit a snag ... FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I assume you are clicking on something. Tell us what you are clicking on.
Most 'icons' have properties that you can inspect. Use right mouse --> properties and tell us what you see.
Also can you run 'xterm'? It is possible that something in your dot files or login profile is getting in the way.
One common problem is the inclusion of NFS resources in your $PATH.
Also is this for all users or just one? Can you add a new user test that new user?
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 04:35:28PM -0400, Beartooth wrote:
But I hit a snag ... FC2 has a gnome-terminal that never gets a prompt.
I assume you are clicking on something. Tell us what you are clicking on.
A launcher on the panel.
Most 'icons' have properties that you can inspect. Use right mouse --> properties and tell us what you see.
Under Basic Name : Terminal Generic Name : [blank] Comment : Command line Command : gnome-terminal Type : Application Icon : [a little monitor screen with >_ in it] Run in terminal box not checked
Under Advanced Try this before using: [blank] Documentation : gnome-terminal/index.html Name/Comment translations : [a whole great long list, none with a highlight, check mark, or other distinction] [nothing in the Add/Set or Remove boxes] Revert box grayed out
Also can you run 'xterm'?
commanding "xterm &" at the user prompt in a KDE terminal emulation brings up a terminal, with a prompt, which takes commands. (I use Gnome; but the KDE terminal, which is very hard on my aged eyeballs, does work.)
It is possible that something in your dot files or login profile is getting in the way.
One common problem is the inclusion of NFS resources in your $PATH.
There you're over my head, alas!
Also is this for all users or just one? Can you add a new user test that new user?
Yes. I did, and tried "su test", then telling btth's kde terminal "gnome-terminal &". (I'll log out and back in in a minute)
It flashed a message, and opened what looks like a gnome terminal, with a working prompt -- a btth prompt, *not* test's -- .
Closing that, I found the message still on the kde terminal: ===== [test@localhost btth]$ [gnome-terminal:15784): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to the session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. ===== It did not give a new prompt at that point. I hit ^c. It displayed a blank line, then ===== [1]+ Done gnome-terminal [test@localhost btth] ===== I told it exit, and it gave me ===== exit [1]+ Done xterm and then my normal btth prompt
Stay tuned. I'll log out, and back in as test.
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:06:15 -0500, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
Can you add a new user test that new user?
Yes. I did, and tried "su test", then telling btth's kde terminal "gnome-terminal &". (I'll log out and back in in a minute)
(snip)
Stay tuned. I'll log out, and back in as test.
Logged in as test, I put the terminal launcher on the panel, moved it to the position I normally keep it, and clicked on it. Test got a gnome-terminal, with a working prompt, and can modify things like the colors -- which is what my eyeballs require.
I hope that tells you what I need to do to re-enable the prompt for my regular user!
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:13:43 -0500, Nifty Hat Mitch asked about users other than btth. After I had established that test got a gnome-terminal with a working prompt, I tried actually logging in as root. Root also got a terminal with a working prompt, and could edit the profile, particularly as to colors.
So I did shutdown -r now, and logged back in after reboot as btth. Btth still gets only a gnome-terminal without a prompt. :-(
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 02:13:43PM -0500, Beartooth wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:06:15 -0500, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:53:18 -0700, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
Can you add a new user test that new user?
Yes. I did, and tried "su test", then telling btth's kde terminal "gnome-terminal &". (I'll log out and back in in a minute)
(snip)Stay tuned. I'll log out, and back in as test.
Logged in as test, I put the terminal launcher on the panel, moved it to the position I normally keep it, and clicked on it. Test got a gnome-terminal, with a working prompt, and can modify things like the colors -- which is what my eyeballs require.
OK so gnome-terminal works for "Mr. Test". This tells me that the system is OK and that the specific problem is associated with your account setup.
gnome-terminal keeps setup information in $HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal $HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/
First try in a gnome-terminal to reset the default profile. Click on Edit --> profiles
On the Colors tab click and uncheck "Use Colors from system theme".
You can also edit the default theme to improve the contrast or color choice. I suspect that some how the screen and text color are now the same which makes it impossible to see the text. Hint for defaults keep the default unchanged and make a copy to change when the tools permit.
It may be quicker to cut and paste this command in a gnome-terminal or an xterm.
# check that you are you with 'id' id
# if not root and if you are you. mv $HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal $HOME/.gconf/apps/XXgnome-terminal
Logout and log back in...
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:41:09 -0800, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 02:13:43PM -0500, Beartooth wrote:
Logged in as test, I put the terminal launcher on the panel, moved it to the position I normally keep it, and clicked on it. Test got a gnome-terminal, with a working prompt, and can modify things like the colors -- which is what my eyeballs require.
OK so gnome-terminal works for "Mr. Test". This tells me that the system is OK and that the specific problem is associated with your account setup.
gnome-terminal keeps setup information in $HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal $HOME/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/
First try in a gnome-terminal to reset the default profile. Click on Edit --> profiles
On the Colors tab click and uncheck "Use Colors from system theme"
It was already unchecked. Checking it got the prompt back!
But it also grayed out Built-in schemes -- so I can't set that to Custom, and therefore can't set the Text color nor the Background color. When I uncheck it again, I can set those; they were already very different -- dark brown on light green; I darkened one further and lightened the other further; but when I got back out of editing the profile, the prompt was still absent. Checking it once more brought the prompt back -- black on white.
Palette, with the system theme colors checked, lets me choose among Linux console, XTerm, Rxvt, and Custom. But, even though clicking on a color gets me a palette, nothing I do with it seems to have any effect.
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Tom Mitchell