X terminating suddenly without warning

[Chris Ruprecht]

Hi all and a Happy New Year!

OS:		FC3 (updated to current)
Graphics:	ATI Radeon Mobility

X11 terminates from time to time (mostly at the least convenient moment,
of course) without any warnings. One minute, I'm happily working, the
next, the mouse freezes, then, a few seconds later, I get the Graphical
login screen.

I checked my X logs but they do not contain keywords like 'fatal' or
'error'.

Any ideas?

Best regards,
Chris

[Jim Cornette]

Chris Ruprecht wrote:
> Hi all and a Happy New Year!
>
> OS:		FC3 (updated to current)
> Graphics:	ATI Radeon Mobility
>
> X11 terminates from time to time (mostly at the least convenient moment,
> of course) without any warnings. One minute, I'm happily working, the
> next, the mouse freezes, then, a few seconds later, I get the Graphical
> login screen.
>
> I checked my X logs but they do not contain keywords like 'fatal' or
> 'error'.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Best regards,
> Chris

Try this link. It might give you a kernel that does not crash out on 
you. For the entire message and thread, check the Fedora-test-list for 
"New Year, New Test Kernel" thread. I have experienced similar errors 
with the mouse not responding and having to kill X also with  Radeon 
graphics card. I have not rebooted into the new test kernel yet to see 
if it works better. I am getting ready to try it out though.

Jim

Link to kernels for FC3, soon to be in the repositories.

http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC3/

[Chris]

Hi Jim,

I tried that and the results are not good. I can no longer log into the 
system and X isn't starting up at all. After it boots, it presents the 
character login but the keyboard is dead. I got it to boot the previous 
kernel (logged in using single user mode, fixed grub.conf) again the 
the same results (not being able to log in).

Probably have to force install the current kernel. It looks like the 
machine crashes as it's not pinging either ...

Best regards,
Chris

On Jan 02, 2005, at 00:03, Jim Cornette wrote:
> Chris Ruprecht wrote:
> > Hi all and a Happy New Year!
> > OS:		FC3 (updated to current)
> > Graphics:	ATI Radeon Mobility
> > X11 terminates from time to time (mostly at the least convenient 
> > moment,
> > of course) without any warnings. One minute, I'm happily working, the
> > next, the mouse freezes, then, a few seconds later, I get the 
> > Graphical
> > login screen.
> > I checked my X logs but they do not contain keywords like 'fatal' or
> > 'error'.
> > Any ideas?
> > Best regards,
> > Chris
>
> Try this link. It might give you a kernel that does not crash out on 
> you. For the entire message and thread, check the Fedora-test-list for 
> "New Year, New Test Kernel" thread. I have experienced similar errors 
> with the mouse not responding and having to kill X also with  Radeon 
> graphics card. I have not rebooted into the new test kernel yet to see 
> if it works better. I am getting ready to try it out though.
>
> Jim
>
> Link to kernels for FC3, soon to be in the repositories.
>
> http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC3/
>
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[Jim Cornette]

Chris wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I tried that and the results are not good. I can no longer log into the 
> system and X isn't starting up at all. After it boots, it presents the 
> character login but the keyboard is dead. I got it to boot the previous 
> kernel (logged in using single user mode, fixed grub.conf) again the the 
> same results (not being able to log in).

Did you download the correct archetecture kernel? I had a problem with 
keyboard not working with some kernel called hugemem or something 
similar. There are ppc, 64 bit and smp kernels in this repository.
> Probably have to force install the current kernel. It looks like the 
> machine crashes as it's not pinging either ...> 
> On Jan 02, 2005, at 00:03, Jim Cornette wrote:

From runlevel 1 you might try to use the --install --replacefiles 
--replacepkgs --oldpackage options to rpm. I would not consider force 
installing anything. Forcing installation on the kernel even sounds more 
like a danger zone creation.

/sbin/lspci shows my cards as below. your earlier description seemed to 
be referring to the same card type.

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1

I hope you can salvage the system. If you downloaded the wrong 
archetecture of kernel, you can uninstall it with rpm, then install the 
correct arch version.

Jim
> Best regards,
> Chris

...
> > Link to kernels for FC3, soon to be in the repositories.
> >
> > http://people.redhat.com/davej/kernels/Fedora/FC3/