gnome-disks: Disk is OK, 7080 bad sectors (31° C / 88° F)

[Richard Shaw]

Um.... I'm not sure what the threshold should be for this drive (2TB) but I
would think that having over 7000 bad sectors it would not be considered OK.

In either case I plan on replacing the drive as soon as funds allow.

Thanks,
Richard

[SternData]

On 02/15/2016 04:47 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Um.... I'm not sure what the threshold should be for this drive (2TB)
> but I would think that having over 7000 bad sectors it would not be
> considered OK.
>
> In either case I plan on replacing the drive as soon as funds allow.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard

I just got one of these to replace one that was dropping sectors:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_...

$72.99 right now (It was 70.99 when I bought it.(

[Richard Shaw]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:02 PM, SternData 
wrote:
> I just got one of these to replace one that was dropping sectors:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_...

Yeah, I shopped around a bit and decided to give a referb with 1 year
warranty a shot. It's a WD enterprise drive.

The one that's dying is a Seagate which I shouldn't have bought after the
last Seagate I bought had to be RMA'd 3 times over the 5 year warranty. I
know statistically it doesn't matter (some are made by the same OEM) but
it's just left a really bad taste in my mouth.

Thanks,
Richard

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2016-02-15 at 21:00 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:02 PM, SternData <subscribed-lists@sterndat
> a.com>
> wrote:
> > I just got one of these to replace one that was dropping sectors:
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref
> > _=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
>
> Yeah, I shopped around a bit and decided to give a referb with 1 year
> warranty a shot. It's a WD enterprise drive.
>
> The one that's dying is a Seagate which I shouldn't have bought after
> the
> last Seagate I bought had to be RMA'd 3 times over the 5 year
> warranty. I
> know statistically it doesn't matter (some are made by the same OEM)
> but
> it's just left a really bad taste in my mouth.

I've had problems with Seagate drives, but at least some of them are
improving: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/hgst-h
ard-disks-still-super-reliable-seagates-have-greatly-improved/

poc

[Eliezer Croitoru]

Hey Richard,

Just keep in mind that depends on your usage the disk might get bad sectors.
As much as many including me would like to not have them happen they do 
happen for any HDD vendor!
Some things that affect DISK lifespan:
- enterprise\server level usage on a desktop disk
- high times of over heating(can be a result of the above)
- very high number of random direct read+write operations exhausting the 
mechanical parts of the disk.
- electricity stability issues which can cause magnetic interference in 
disk operations.
- many others.

I have not operated Data Centers but I do know some operators that 
report the same issues on very high end spinning disks from storage 
vendors with fault rate of 1/100 disks per month and sometimes even 
higher( 3-4/100).

And I must admit that I do not want to stain Seagate name and I must add 
that couple years ago when 250GB was lots of space I bought a WD 250GB 
HDD that faulted after only about 24 hours of operation.
What would you do after such a thing??

Eliezer

On 16/02/2016 05:00, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:02 PM, SternData
> <[e-mail] >
> wrote:
> I just got one of these to replace one that was dropping sectors:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
>
>
> Yeah, I shopped around a bit and decided to give a referb with 1 year
> warranty a shot. It's a WD enterprise drive.
>
> The one that's dying is a Seagate which I shouldn't have bought after
> the last Seagate I bought had to be RMA'd 3 times over the 5 year
> warranty. I know statistically it doesn't matter (some are made by the
> same OEM) but it's just left a really bad taste in my mouth.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard

[Richard Shaw]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Eliezer Croitoru 
wrote:
> Hey Richard,
>
> Just keep in mind that depends on your usage the disk might get bad
> sectors.
> As much as many including me would like to not have them happen they do
> happen for any HDD vendor!
> Some things that affect DISK lifespan:
> enterprise\server level usage on a desktop disk
> high times of over heating(can be a result of the above)
> very high number of random direct read+write operations exhausting the
>
> mechanical parts of the disk.
> electricity stability issues which can cause magnetic interference in
>
> disk operations.
> many others.

In this case it is up 24/7 but it will be used as a DVR drive so I/O wise
it's not very demanding.

And I must admit that I do not want to stain Seagate name and I must add
> that couple years ago when 250GB was lots of space I bought a WD 250GB HDD
> that faulted after only about 24 hours of operation.
> What would you do after such a thing??

I would prefer it fail in 24 hours rather than a couple of months :) At
least then you know you have a bad drive quickly before you start trusting
it or get too far away from your backup that you were supposed to do.

Thanks,
Richard