background application

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

With fedora34, I have an application running in background mode under the
name of a user.
Hpw can I control such a behavior?

Thanks

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[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-06-26 1:23 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
> With fedora34, I have an application running in background mode under the
> name of a user.
> Hpw can I control such a behavior?

What do you mean by "control"?
What's happening?
What do you want to happen?

[Patrick Dupre]

Now, every time that I start the machine, I have:
9729  0.7  3.0 3008916 240952 ?      SLsl 20:02   1:12 /usr/bin/nextcloud --background

How can I prevent this application to run in background?

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> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 10:50 PM
> From: "Samuel Sieb" 
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: background application
>
> On 2021-06-26 1:23 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > With fedora34, I have an application running in background mode under the
> > name of a user.
> > Hpw can I control such a behavior?
>
> What do you mean by "control"?
> What's happening?
> What do you want to happen?
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-06-26 1:55 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Now, every time that I start the machine, I have:
> 9729  0.7  3.0 3008916 240952 ?      SLsl 20:02   1:12 /usr/bin/nextcloud --background
>
> How can I prevent this application to run in background?

Run gnome-tweaks and check the Startup Applications section or look in 
~/.config/autostart/

[Patrick Dupre]

Actually, this is exactly what I did. But this application is not listed.

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> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 11:02 PM
> From: "Samuel Sieb" 
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: background application
>
> On 2021-06-26 1:55 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Now, every time that I start the machine, I have:
> > 9729  0.7  3.0 3008916 240952 ?      SLsl 20:02   1:12 /usr/bin/nextcloud --background
> >
> > How can I prevent this application to run in background?
>
> Run gnome-tweaks and check the Startup Applications section or look in 
> ~/.config/autostart/
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[Joe Zeff]

On 6/26/21 3:05 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Actually, this is exactly what I did. But this application is not listed.

Assuming that the user exists, try using

crontab -u $USERNAME

to see if it's set to be run at boot, and if so, ask the user why.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-06-26 2:05 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Actually, this is exactly what I did. But this application is not listed.

Is there anything in "/home/user/.config/autostart/"?

[Tom Horsley]

On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:05:30 +0200
Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Actually, this is exactly what I did. But this application is not listed.

May be a systemd "user" service. Take a look at

systemctl --user list-unit-files

and see if something like nextcloud is listed (you can disable it
with systemctl --user disable ...).

Some other possibilities are covered in my web page at:

https://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html

The find-xdg script is useful (for me, anyway).

[Patrick Dupre]

Thanks for the suggestions.

Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange
I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on.
The user launches it, but the interface disappear as soon as the mouse is moved
away, but the application still run. It make difficult to interact with the application.
Another call is necessary, and I get 
 nextcloud.gui.application: Already running, exiting...

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> > Actually, this is exactly what I did. But this application is not listed.
>
> May be a systemd "user" service. Take a look at
>
> systemctl --user list-unit-files
>
> and see if something like nextcloud is listed (you can disable it
> with systemctl --user disable ...).
>
> Some other possibilities are covered in my web page at:
>
> https://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html
>
> The find-xdg script is useful (for me, anyway).
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[Matti Pulkkinen]

su, 2021-06-27 kello 09:23 +0200, Patrick Dupre kirjoitti:
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange
> I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on.
> The user launches it, but the interface disappear as soon as the mouse
> is moved
> away, but the application still run. It make difficult to interact with
> the application.
> Another call is necessary, and I get 
>  nextcloud.gui.application: Already running, exiting...

Are you using Gnome? If so, do you have the appindicator extension[1]
or something like it installed? I vaguely remember the Nextcloud client
just opening its little drop-down menu if the program is started with
no system tray available. When that window closes, the program is left
running in the background with no way for the user to get at it
graphically. After installing a system tray extension, the client
started working properly again. Things may have changed as the client
seems to be better integrated into Gnome now, but installing the
extension might be worth a shot anyway.

[1] https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-06-27 7:40 a.m., Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> su, 2021-06-27 kello 09:23 +0200, Patrick Dupre kirjoitti:
> > Thanks for the suggestions.
> >
> > Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange
> > I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on.
> > The user launches it, but the interface disappear as soon as the mouse
> > is moved
> > away, but the application still run. It make difficult to interact with
> > the application.
> > Another call is necessary, and I get
> >   nextcloud.gui.application: Already running, exiting...
>
> Are you using Gnome? If so, do you have the appindicator extension[1]
> or something like it installed? I vaguely remember the Nextcloud client
> just opening its little drop-down menu if the program is started with
> no system tray available. When that window closes, the program is left
> running in the background with no way for the user to get at it
> graphically. After installing a system tray extension, the client
> started working properly again. Things may have changed as the client
> seems to be better integrated into Gnome now, but installing the
> extension might be worth a shot anyway.
>
> [1] https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator

I use gnome-shell-extension-topicons-plus which is packaged in Fedora.

[Patrick Dupre]

This is exactly right. I am using gnome.

Now, I installed gnome-shell-extension-appindicator
but I do not see any difference concerning nextcloud.

How do I manage these extensions?
> On 2021-06-27 7:40 a.m., Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> > su, 2021-06-27 kello 09:23 +0200, Patrick Dupre kirjoitti:
> > > Thanks for the suggestions.
> > >
> > > Indeed, the behavior of nextcloud is a bit strange
> > > I was wrong it is not launched when the machine is turned on.
> > > The user launches it, but the interface disappear as soon as the mouse
> > > is moved
> > > away, but the application still run. It make difficult to interact with
> > > the application.
> > > Another call is necessary, and I get
> > >   nextcloud.gui.application: Already running, exiting...
> >
> > Are you using Gnome? If so, do you have the appindicator extension[1]
> > or something like it installed? I vaguely remember the Nextcloud client
> > just opening its little drop-down menu if the program is started with
> > no system tray available. When that window closes, the program is left
> > running in the background with no way for the user to get at it
> > graphically. After installing a system tray extension, the client
> > started working properly again. Things may have changed as the client
> > seems to be better integrated into Gnome now, but installing the
> > extension might be worth a shot anyway.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator
>
> I use gnome-shell-extension-topicons-plus which is packaged in Fedora.
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-06-27 12:50 p.m., Patrick Dupre wrote:
> This is exactly right. I am using gnome.
>
> Now, I installed gnome-shell-extension-appindicator
> but I do not see any difference concerning nextcloud.
>
> How do I manage these extensions?

In F33, use gnome-tweaks.  In F34, there's a new Extensions app.

[Matti Pulkkinen]

su, 2021-06-27 kello 12:58 -0700, Samuel Sieb kirjoitti:
> > How do I manage these extensions?
>
> [...] In F34, there's a new Extensions app.

Which is in the gnome-extensions-app package. As for what could be
causing the issue with the Nextcloud client, one other thing I thought
of is that there is a separate Nextcloud plugin for Nautilus in the
nextcloud-client-nautilus package. Might be worth giving that a go if
it isn't already installed.