I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One person replied "Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...". I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68. That's 8 versions out-of-date. I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.
I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon.. No new versions are available. Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?
thanks, Bill.
On 9/17/19 10:08 AM, home user wrote:
I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One person replied "Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...". I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68. That's 8 versions out-of-date. I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.
I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon.. No new versions are available. Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?
I am on F30 and....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q thunderbird thunderbird-68.1.0-1.fc30.x86_64
It came yesterday along with kernel-5.2.14-200 and others
On 9/17/19 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 9/17/19 10:08 AM, home user wrote:
I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One person replied "Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...". I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68. That's 8 versions out-of-date. I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.
I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon.. No new versions are available. Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?
I am on F30 and....
[egreshko@meimei ~]$ rpm -q thunderbird thunderbird-68.1.0-1.fc30.x86_64
It came yesterday along with kernel-5.2.14-200 and others
And I forgot to add....
Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?
Thank-you, Ed.
I am on F30 and....
I'm at F29, and hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October. Am I stuck at Thunderbird 60.7 until then?
Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?
"dnf config"? Where is that? And are you saying I do want an "exclude" there, or I don't want an "exclude" there?
On 9/17/19 10:28 AM, home user wrote:
Thank-you, Ed.
I am on F30 and....
I'm at F29, and hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October. Am I stuck at Thunderbird 60.7 until then?
Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?
"dnf config"? Where is that? And are you saying I do want an "exclude" there, or I don't want an "exclude" there?
Sorry, the file /etc/dnf/dnf.conf
Sometimes people don't want a package to be updated as they lose some functionality in newer versions or a plugin to an app is no longer supported.
So, they add
excludepkgs=name,name
to that file or one of the repo files.
And, then they forget what they've done. :-) :-)
Hi,
Ed Greshko:
Have you put an "exclude" in the dnf config?
the anonymous home user:
"dnf config"? Where is that?
When unsure, you can use the locate command to find likely suspects (e.g. "dnf" named things) in the usual places for configuration files (i.e. inside /etc).
locate dnf|grep etc
With /etc/dnf/dnf.conf being the main configuration file, and there may be other things of interest within /etc/dnf/. But look in the /etc/dnf.conf file for any "exlude" entries.
And are you saying I do want an "exclude" there, or I don't want an "exclude" there?
You're being asked if you'd put one in, and forgotten about it. An exclude would stop updates (for particular packages listed with the exclude). In your case you don't want an exlude.
Sorry, the file /etc/dnf/dnf.conf
I don't recall ever having touched that file. To check... --------------- -bash.4[dnf]: pwd /etc/dnf -bash.5[dnf]: cat dnf.conf [main] gpgcheck=1 installonly_limit=3 clean_requirements_on_remove=True -bash.6[dnf]: --------------- I suppose that until I upgrade to f30, I'm stuck with Thunderbird 60.7. (I do not want to risk doing anything outside of dnf.)
And, then they forget what they've done. :-) :-)
Twooo smileys? Hmmm... I think I know who one of the members of "they" is!
On 9/17/19 11:06 AM, home user wrote:
I don't recall ever having touched that file. To check...
-bash.4[dnf]: pwd /etc/dnf -bash.5[dnf]: cat dnf.conf [main] gpgcheck=1 installonly_limit=3 clean_requirements_on_remove=True
-bash.6[dnf]:
I suppose that until I upgrade to f30, I'm stuck with Thunderbird 60.7. (I do not want to risk doing anything outside of dnf.)
You should also check your repo files.
cd /etc/yum.repos.d grep excl *
Ah, what version of Fedora are you currently running? If not running F29 or F30 there are no updates.
thunderbird-60.7.0-1.fc28 was the last version built for that release.
On 9/16/19 7:28 PM, home user wrote:
Thank-you, Ed.
I am on F30 and....
I'm at F29, and hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October. Am I stuck at Thunderbird 60.7 until then?
Thunderbird 68 was built September 6, so it might not be out of testing yet. You can add "--enablerepo-updates-testing" to dnf if it's not available in updates yet.
On 9/16/19 7:08 PM, home user wrote:
I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68. That's 8 versions out-of-date. I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.
No, Thunderbird 60 is not 8 versions out-of-date. There was no major release in between 60 and 68:
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/releases/
Thunderbird 68 will be the first release using the new web extensions API (as I understand it), so check compatibility with any extensions that you use before upgrading.
Hi,
Am 17.09.19 um 04:08 schrieb home user:
I very recently asked a question in the Thunderbird support forum. One person replied "Find yourself an updated Thunderbird...". I have version 60.7.0; the person implied that the current version is 68. That's 8 versions out-of-date. I do a "dnf upgrade" every Thursday.
As Gordon already mentioned Thunderbird 68 was released just a few weeks ago and the previous version was 60.7.
Thunderbird uses Firefox's version numbers without having the release pace of Firefox so they will skip some versions.
I did a "dnf check-update thunderbird" this afternoon.. No new versions are available. Why are the repositories so far behind on Thunderbird?
Thunderbird 68 is currently in updates-testing: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-32c48d9a5f
You can install it using sudo dnf update thunderbird --enablerepo=updates-testing
Often Fedora maintainers tend to be a bit more conservative when updating the "old" Fedora version so F29 might get updates a bit later than F30. Also updates in F30 tend to get more user testing ("karma"). That helps getting these updates in the "stable" repository sooner.
=> You can help! - get a Fedora account - install the version from updates-testing - send your comments/karma to bodhi
Also some extensions are not yet compatible with Thunderbird's new technology so if you use addons better check if they are compatible.
As far as I know the new Thunderbird version is not updated automatically on Windows for that very reason (IIRC they plan to do that with 68.1).
HTH Felix
(responding to a few posts)
(Samuel)
Thunderbird 68 was built September 6, so it might not be out of testing yet. You can add "--enablerepo-updates-testing" to dnf if it's not available in updates yet.
(Gordon)
No, Thunderbird 60 is not 8 versions out-of-date. There was no major release in between 60 and 68...
(Felix)
As Gordon already mentioned Thunderbird 68 was released just a few weeks ago and the previous version was 60.7. Thunderbird uses Firefox's version numbers without having the release pace of Firefox so they will skip some versions. Thunderbird 68 is currently in updates-testing:... You can install it using...
Thank-you. These answer the core question. It's also good to know about Thunderbird version numbering.
I assume almost everyone belonging to this list has multiple systems they can use. I'm an exception. If you install something still in test, and it doesn't work, you have other systems to turn to. I have only one system. If I install the Thunderbird-68 test version, and it doesn't work, I'm stuck. I'd have serious problems. I recall from previous threads that even using the "fedora HYPERKITTY" has problems: posts submitted through that web page don't reach everyone. So even getting help from this list would be limited. This is also why I'm still at f29. I hold off upgrading to f(n+1) until 1-3 weeks before f(n+2) is released. This reduces risk and trouble for me. So I'll hold off upgrading to Thunderbird-68 until I upgrade to f30 (mid-October) or Thunderbird is released to f29, whichever is first.
(Ed)
cd /etc/yum.repos.d grep excl *
Though Samuel, Gordon, and Felix answered the real question, it's good for me to learn by doing as you said... --------------- -bash.4[yum.repos.d]: ls adobe-linux-x86_64.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo fedora-cisco-openh264.repo rpmfusion-free.repo fedora-modular.repo rpmfusion-free-updates.repo fedora.repo rpmfusion-free-updates-testing.repo fedora-updates-modular.repo rpmfusion-nonfree.repo fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates.repo fedora-updates-testing-modular.repo rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.repo -bash.5[yum.repos.d]: grep excl* ^C -bash.6[yum.repos.d]: grep excl * -bash.7[yum.repos.d]: ---------------
ah, what version of Fedora are you currently running?
Fedora-29, hoping to upgrade to 30 in mid-October.
(Tim)
the anonymous home user:
My friends call me "Bill", and members of this list are welcome to also. I use "home user" because I assume that handle is more helpful to list members trying to help me than is "Bill". With that handle, they have a better feel for my "level".
When unsure, you can use the locate command...
Thank-you, Tim. I'll try to keep that in mind.
I've marked this thread "CLOSED". I thank everyone who tried to help. I did learn a few things.
Bill.
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